egyptian women protest ban of veil

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The incident has received little coverage in German and Western media, sparking widespread criticism by German Muslim groups as well as Egyptian journalists, who say the incident is an example of how hate crimes against Muslims are overlooked in comparison to those committed by Muslims against Westerners. Source

From the wife of the late Founder of the Islamic revolutions own facebook site in the subject:

When a certain Neda was killed in Tehran, she became the face of the 'Iranian Resistance' with most news media showing it with lengthy comments. But not when Dr Marwa Al-Sherbini was killed inside a court in Germany by a thug stabbing her 17 times. The German police, instead of coming forward to protect her, they fired at her husband when he tried to do so. In Germany most Germans didn't know it has happened and now there is a news black out until the investigation is over. Can any one imagine the reaction of the German and the world media if a German woman was killed in an Egyptian court with that many stabs and the Egyptian police fired, not at the killer, but at those who came to protect her? With prostrated and defeated Arab leadership, no one pays attention or raise a finger if an Arab or a Muslim is klilled. Knowing this, the USraelis have been killing Arabs and Muslims with impunity. "If Muslims don't get peace no-one will", Bin Laden. Source

However, the death of Al-Sherbini has not received significant attention in foreign press. News of her murder was available via the Associated Press and Agence France Presse. But very few media outlets outside of Germany and Egypt have picked up the story. Source

I am unsure how many of these you need me to cite so here are just a few discussing the topic.

None of this is evidence that this wasn't covered in the German media.

Here's a little selection of the media that covered this:

Die Welt

Der Tagesspiegel

Die Zeit

Suedwestdeutscher Rundfunk

TAZ

Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk

Dresdner Fernsehen

Stuttgarter Zeitung

Frankfurter Rundschau

Sächsische Zeitung

Der Spiegel

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

The incident has received little coverage in German and Western media, sparking widespread criticism by German Muslim groups as well as Egyptian journalists, who say the incident is an example of how hate crimes against Muslims are overlooked in comparison to those committed by Muslims against Westerners. Source

From the wife of the late Founder of the Islamic revolutions own facebook site in the subject:

When a certain Neda was killed in Tehran, she became the face of the 'Iranian Resistance' with most news media showing it with lengthy comments. But not when Dr Marwa Al-Sherbini was killed inside a court in Germany by a thug stabbing her 17 times. The German police, instead of coming forward to protect her, they fired at her husband when he tried to do so. In Germany most Germans didn't know it has happened and now there is a news black out until the investigation is over. Can any one imagine the reaction of the German and the world media if a German woman was killed in an Egyptian court with that many stabs and the Egyptian police fired, not at the killer, but at those who came to protect her? With prostrated and defeated Arab leadership, no one pays attention or raise a finger if an Arab or a Muslim is klilled. Knowing this, the USraelis have been killing Arabs and Muslims with impunity. "If Muslims don't get peace no-one will", Bin Laden. Source

However, the death of Al-Sherbini has not received significant attention in foreign press. News of her murder was available via the Associated Press and Agence France Presse. But very few media outlets outside of Germany and Egypt have picked up the story. Source

I am unsure how many of these you need me to cite so here are just a few discussing the topic.

None of this is evidence that this wasn't covered in the German media.

Here's a little selection of the media that covered this:

Die Welt

Der Tagesspiegel

Die Zeit

Suedwestdeutscher Rundfunk

TAZ

Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk

Dresdner Fernsehen

Stuttgarter Zeitung

Frankfurter Rundschau

Sächsische Zeitung

Der Spiegel

I see where you're coming from about the German media. My original point was encompassing the entire foreign media as a whole and the German governments response. I see where the confusion is in your reply.

Are we playing a game?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I see where you're coming from about the German media. My original point was encompassing the entire foreign media as a whole and the German governments response. I see where the confusion is in your reply.

Well, you sure did a good job concealing the fact that you were criticizing the foreign media as a whole.

The incident has received little coverage in German and Western media...

Be that as it may, I am quite certain that I could pull similar coverage samples from other Western European nations - if there wasn't that pesky language barrier. And then, what exactly should the German government have done that it didn't do? Execute the perpetrator? We don't do that in Germany, we're civilized people. The government has condemned what occurred and if I'm not mistaken, the perpetrator is currently standing trial.

You'd be hard pressed to find a more accepting and tolerant government than that of Germany. Germany most certainly doesn't take a back seat to any country in the Middle East when it comes to not only tolerating people of different cultures and beliefs but when it comes to protecting them and their individual human rights. To have criticism to the contrary coming out of the Middle East is a bit offensive to this German. And that is putting it mildly.

Let me ask you this: what was the MENA media coverage on the German tourists that were kidnapped in Egypt back in 2008?

Edited October 31, 2009 by Mr. Big Dog

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

I see where you're coming from about the German media. My original point was encompassing the entire foreign media as a whole and the German governments response. I see where the confusion is in your reply.

Well, you sure did a good job concealing the fact that you were criticizing the foreign media as a whole.

The incident has received little coverage in German and Western media...

I wasn't concealing anything?

Be that as it may, I am quite certain that I could pull similar coverage samples from other Western European nations - if there wasn't that pesky language barrier.

But let me ask you this: what was the MENA coverage on the German tourists that were kidnapped in Egypt back in 2008?

How does this change the fact that the lack of foreign coverage is part of what enraged the Muslim world? The links that I posted were straight from the horses mouth.

German tourists in 2008 getting kidnapped? Do you mean the time that a group of foreigners traveling together in the southern deserts of Egypt were picked up by Sudanese kidnappers when the group had mistakenly crossed the boarder? That's the only kidnapping story in Egypt that's I've read of in the last year that involved foreigners so I am unsure if some German's were involved. From following the news out of Egypt the past five years I can say kidnappings are rare for Egypt but I know they are not so rare for the MENA region and far and near east regions.

Edited October 31, 2009 by ~Flower~

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I see where you're coming from about the German media. My original point was encompassing the entire foreign media as a whole and the German governments response. I see where the confusion is in your reply.

Well, you sure did a good job concealing the fact that you were criticizing the foreign media as a whole.

The incident has received little coverage in German and Western media...

I wasn't concealing anything?

You were peddling funky claims that suggested that this wasn't covered in Germany...

In Germany most Germans didn't know it has happened and now there is a news black out until the investigation is over.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

How does this change the fact that the lack of foreign coverage is part of what enraged the Muslim world?

The perceived lack of foreign coverage, please.

German tourists in 2008 getting kidnapped?

Yes, they were kidnapped in Egypt and then taken into Sudan.

The group [5 Germans, 5 Italians and a Romanian] was on a safari in the Sahara Desert near Kark-Talh when their vehicles were stopped by masked men with weapons and taken towards Sudan, according to Egyptian sources.

Yes, and the Germans and Italians should have been enraged over the lack of MENA coverage of this story.

Edited October 31, 2009 by Mr. Big Dog

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

I see where you're coming from about the German media. My original point was encompassing the entire foreign media as a whole and the German governments response. I see where the confusion is in your reply.

Well, you sure did a good job concealing the fact that you were criticizing the foreign media as a whole.

The incident has received little coverage in German and Western media...

I wasn't concealing anything?

You were peddling funky claims that suggested that this wasn't covered in Germany...

In Germany most Germans didn't know it has happened and now there is a news black out until the investigation is over.

I went back and read my writing in this thread and I didn't say that so I don't know where you got that from.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

How does this change the fact that the lack of foreign coverage is part of what enraged the Muslim world?

The perceived lack of foreign coverage, please.

German tourists in 2008 getting kidnapped?

Yes, they were kidnapped in Egypt and then taken into Sudan.

The group [5 Germans, 5 Italians and a Romanian] was on a safari in the Sahara Desert near Kark-Talh when their vehicles were stopped by masked men with weapons and taken towards Sudan, according to Egyptian sources.

Yes, and the Germans and Italians should have been enraged over the lack of MENA coverage of this story.

So your claim is this wasn't covered in the mena region and based on that the foreign media to the mena region should be equally enraged when in fact they did not have that response. Well I don't know what that says about the Germans and Italians that they are not so involved? Maybe they relate differently. That still doesn't change the fact that the lack of response on this story by the foreign media and the way the German government handled it the incident and the act itself all enraged the Muslim world.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

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