egyptian women protest ban of veil

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

I agree. In one article I read the women ask why they are being targeted. They don't realize that this too is a fashion statement? From the collection of articles I think that is what others are trying to explain in that it is seen as radical and a domination by the Gulf Arab countries and that is what is not ok about the message it sends. Kind of like different stereotypes here only over there it gives a more complicated impression.

[Amby 490]

I find the entire thing really interesting. I have always thought dressing like that from head to toe looks sooooo uncomfortable

[Marina-Del 10]

Very interesting the pictures between niquab and the burqa. I always thought the niquab was what you call a burqa. Now I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone wearing a true burqa! I lived in London for 3 years where there are quite a few people who wear the niquab, but I don't remember ever seeing anyone covering their eyes too.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I have seen many women in Seattle wearing niqab -- not one with burka. And of course, plenty of hijabis. Must say, some look fantastic.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

The only benefit I can see to wearing it now is atleast I won't have to worry about what I look light underneath that big old sheet. I don't have to do hair, or make-up or anything just throw on the sheet adjust for the eyes and go. Although I also read that the women are women everywhere and even those that dress in niqab's and burka's like to do shopping and even some are slaves to fashion within the confines of their own homes and...eh..hmm...bedrooms.

Edited October 20, 2009 by ~Flower~

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Egypt Body Outlines Rules For Lifting Muslim veil

I find it interesting the headline calls it a Muslim veil when this all started because the high Sunni clerk in Egypt said it has nothing to do with Islam and is based off of old tribal customs and he was going to make an edict to have the niqab banned.

Now it looks like they formalized three cases when the niqab should be removed in schools but you'll have to follow the link to read the article and find out.

[sara..... 371]

i have a lot of respect for the women that wear niqab......i personally can not worst reason is im lazy.....too much trouble when it comes to eating, drinking and once u put it on ur not suppose to take it off unless ur at home.........we have a very small muslim community here, i have seen only one person wearing it in a small city about 9 miles from us......i have so much respect for her......

anyways just my opinion

sara

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

For example when Ann Curry had an interview with President Ahmadinejad of Iran and they were discussing media issues and the coverage of the martyr of Iran, 'Neda", during the post-election and how that would reflect on his character he deflects and responds by whipping out a picture of the headscarf martyr, Marwa Sherbini, the Egyptian woman who was brutally murdered in a court room in Germany when trying to bring her accuser to justice for insulting her right to wear a headscarf.

In Germany, a nut killed a woman in a court and in Iran, a sniper kills a female protestor. Not the same thing.

They are the same thing in the way they both were made martyrs by the people for their murders and in the way media bias was claimed in how they both were covered differently. When the head scarf martyr was murdered there were claims the west held media bias seeing it as unnewsworthy while the Muslim world was enraged with the happenings that went on. Then in Iran the people were saying Neda was a martyr for the nation of Iran because of her cold murder during the protests when she was just a bystander. Ahmadinejad was pointing out that the western media ran the martyr story for the counter revolution figure Neda while the head scarf martyr story where a Muslim woman was standing up for her right to wear it and not be discriminated against and was murdered for what she believed in got little coverage.

Got little coverage where? I know it was well covered in Germany and would imagine that the coverage all over Europe was fairly complete as well.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

For example when Ann Curry had an interview with President Ahmadinejad of Iran and they were discussing media issues and the coverage of the martyr of Iran, 'Neda", during the post-election and how that would reflect on his character he deflects and responds by whipping out a picture of the headscarf martyr, Marwa Sherbini, the Egyptian woman who was brutally murdered in a court room in Germany when trying to bring her accuser to justice for insulting her right to wear a headscarf.

In Germany, a nut killed a woman in a court and in Iran, a sniper kills a female protestor. Not the same thing.

They are the same thing in the way they both were made martyrs by the people for their murders and in the way media bias was claimed in how they both were covered differently. When the head scarf martyr was murdered there were claims the west held media bias seeing it as unnewsworthy while the Muslim world was enraged with the happenings that went on. Then in Iran the people were saying Neda was a martyr for the nation of Iran because of her cold murder during the protests when she was just a bystander. Ahmadinejad was pointing out that the western media ran the martyr story for the counter revolution figure Neda while the head scarf martyr story where a Muslim woman was standing up for her right to wear it and not be discriminated against and was murdered for what she believed in got little coverage.

Got little coverage where? I know it was well covered in Germany and would imagine that the coverage all over Europe was fairly complete as well.

In the beginning of the story there wasn't much coverage of it in the news or a response from the German government on the way the situation was handled. This was seen as the German government not wanting show responsibility and discriminating against the Muslim community. This outraged the Muslim world and particularly Egypt where boycotts were held of German products and are still being organized and ongoing. It wasn't until these protests that the story really launched and was covered in all it's aspects. Now it's on to the follow up stories with the trial for murder of the Russian immigrant. In his photos he is heavily concealed in a jacket and hat and sunglasses. The judge ordered him to remove his disguise but he refused to remove his sunglasses which is funny to me.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

i have a lot of respect for the women that wear niqab......i personally can not worst reason is im lazy.....too much trouble when it comes to eating, drinking and once u put it on ur not suppose to take it off unless ur at home.........we have a very small muslim community here, i have seen only one person wearing it in a small city about 9 miles from us......i have so much respect for her......

anyways just my opinion

sara

When I was in Egypt it was explained to me by Muslim women that each of the different head scarves they wear have different meanings which is based on their coverage. The more coverage the more modest and religious they were and it is a way to show their devotion to Allah. However, they complained that some who wear it in the gulf countries want others to think they have devotion to Allah but underneath they wear designer clothes and makeup and practice things that are not Islamic. Of course they didn't comment that these practices may also happen among Egyptian women. I was at KFC on the 4th of July and I saw a women in a niqab with her 5 kids and I wondered how she was going to eat her food and then she lifted her veil up but was still not uncovered and she used her gloved hand with utensil to move the food under her veil and eat. She held her veil up the entire time she ate. I thought then it must be hard for her too. Life is not so easy in Egypt.

Edited October 31, 2009 by ~Flower~

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

For example when Ann Curry had an interview with President Ahmadinejad of Iran and they were discussing media issues and the coverage of the martyr of Iran, 'Neda", during the post-election and how that would reflect on his character he deflects and responds by whipping out a picture of the headscarf martyr, Marwa Sherbini, the Egyptian woman who was brutally murdered in a court room in Germany when trying to bring her accuser to justice for insulting her right to wear a headscarf.

In Germany, a nut killed a woman in a court and in Iran, a sniper kills a female protestor. Not the same thing.

They are the same thing in the way they both were made martyrs by the people for their murders and in the way media bias was claimed in how they both were covered differently. When the head scarf martyr was murdered there were claims the west held media bias seeing it as unnewsworthy while the Muslim world was enraged with the happenings that went on. Then in Iran the people were saying Neda was a martyr for the nation of Iran because of her cold murder during the protests when she was just a bystander. Ahmadinejad was pointing out that the western media ran the martyr story for the counter revolution figure Neda while the head scarf martyr story where a Muslim woman was standing up for her right to wear it and not be discriminated against and was murdered for what she believed in got little coverage.

Got little coverage where? I know it was well covered in Germany and would imagine that the coverage all over Europe was fairly complete as well.

In the beginning of the story there wasn't much coverage of it in the news or a response from the German government on the way the situation was handled. This was seen as the German government not wanting show responsibility and discriminating against the Muslim community. This outraged the Muslim world and particularly Egypt where boycotts were held of German products and are still being organized and ongoing. It wasn't until these protests that the story really launched and was covered in all it's aspects.

Good description of the Egyptian perception of the coverage the story had in Germany. Not a good description of the actual coverage the story had there. How many Egyptians consume German news media?

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

For example when Ann Curry had an interview with President Ahmadinejad of Iran and they were discussing media issues and the coverage of the martyr of Iran, 'Neda", during the post-election and how that would reflect on his character he deflects and responds by whipping out a picture of the headscarf martyr, Marwa Sherbini, the Egyptian woman who was brutally murdered in a court room in Germany when trying to bring her accuser to justice for insulting her right to wear a headscarf.

In Germany, a nut killed a woman in a court and in Iran, a sniper kills a female protestor. Not the same thing.

They are the same thing in the way they both were made martyrs by the people for their murders and in the way media bias was claimed in how they both were covered differently. When the head scarf martyr was murdered there were claims the west held media bias seeing it as unnewsworthy while the Muslim world was enraged with the happenings that went on. Then in Iran the people were saying Neda was a martyr for the nation of Iran because of her cold murder during the protests when she was just a bystander. Ahmadinejad was pointing out that the western media ran the martyr story for the counter revolution figure Neda while the head scarf martyr story where a Muslim woman was standing up for her right to wear it and not be discriminated against and was murdered for what she believed in got little coverage.

Got little coverage where? I know it was well covered in Germany and would imagine that the coverage all over Europe was fairly complete as well.

In the beginning of the story there wasn't much coverage of it in the news or a response from the German government on the way the situation was handled. This was seen as the German government not wanting show responsibility and discriminating against the Muslim community. This outraged the Muslim world and particularly Egypt where boycotts were held of German products and are still being organized and ongoing. It wasn't until these protests that the story really launched and was covered in all it's aspects.

Good description of the Egyptian perception of the coverage the story had in Germany. Not a good description of the actual coverage the story had there. How many Egyptians consume German news media?

Ok I'll go back and sift through the articles I've collected describing how this all happened and quote and post the sources for you.

brb

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

For example when Ann Curry had an interview with President Ahmadinejad of Iran and they were discussing media issues and the coverage of the martyr of Iran, 'Neda", during the post-election and how that would reflect on his character he deflects and responds by whipping out a picture of the headscarf martyr, Marwa Sherbini, the Egyptian woman who was brutally murdered in a court room in Germany when trying to bring her accuser to justice for insulting her right to wear a headscarf.

In Germany, a nut killed a woman in a court and in Iran, a sniper kills a female protestor. Not the same thing.

They are the same thing in the way they both were made martyrs by the people for their murders and in the way media bias was claimed in how they both were covered differently. When the head scarf martyr was murdered there were claims the west held media bias seeing it as unnewsworthy while the Muslim world was enraged with the happenings that went on. Then in Iran the people were saying Neda was a martyr for the nation of Iran because of her cold murder during the protests when she was just a bystander. Ahmadinejad was pointing out that the western media ran the martyr story for the counter revolution figure Neda while the head scarf martyr story where a Muslim woman was standing up for her right to wear it and not be discriminated against and was murdered for what she believed in got little coverage.

Got little coverage where? I know it was well covered in Germany and would imagine that the coverage all over Europe was fairly complete as well.

In the beginning of the story there wasn't much coverage of it in the news or a response from the German government on the way the situation was handled. This was seen as the German government not wanting show responsibility and discriminating against the Muslim community. This outraged the Muslim world and particularly Egypt where boycotts were held of German products and are still being organized and ongoing. It wasn't until these protests that the story really launched and was covered in all it's aspects.

Good description of the Egyptian perception of the coverage the story had in Germany. Not a good description of the actual coverage the story had there. How many Egyptians consume German news media?

Ok I'll go back and sift through the articles I've collected describing how this all happened and quote and post the sources for you.

brb

Look, I peruse the German news media daily and I do remember that there was ample coverage when this first happened.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

The incident has received little coverage in German and Western media, sparking widespread criticism by German Muslim groups as well as Egyptian journalists, who say the incident is an example of how hate crimes against Muslims are overlooked in comparison to those committed by Muslims against Westerners. Source

From the wife of the late Founder of the Islamic revolutions own facebook site in the subject:

When a certain Neda was killed in Tehran, she became the face of the 'Iranian Resistance' with most news media showing it with lengthy comments. But not when Dr Marwa Al-Sherbini was killed inside a court in Germany by a thug stabbing her 17 times. The German police, instead of coming forward to protect her, they fired at her husband when he tried to do so. In Germany most Germans didn't know it has happened and now there is a news black out until the investigation is over. Can any one imagine the reaction of the German and the world media if a German woman was killed in an Egyptian court with that many stabs and the Egyptian police fired, not at the killer, but at those who came to protect her? With prostrated and defeated Arab leadership, no one pays attention or raise a finger if an Arab or a Muslim is klilled. Knowing this, the USraelis have been killing Arabs and Muslims with impunity. "If Muslims don't get peace no-one will", Bin Laden. Source

However, the death of Al-Sherbini has not received significant attention in foreign press. News of her murder was available via the Associated Press and Agence France Presse. But very few media outlets outside of Germany and Egypt have picked up the story. Source

I am unsure how many of these you need me to cite so here are just a few discussing the topic.

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

Thousands of people attended her funeral today in Alexandria, carrying signs calling her 'the martyr to the headscarf.' Egyptian bloggers have lashed out against the lack of international press coverage of her death. They have also criticized Germany for charging the attacker with manslaughter rather than murder, and for calling him a 'lone wolf,' ignoring widespread prejudice against Muslims in Germany. Source