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What has the method of terrorism to do with the price of fish? Is this the terror gold standard? If your terrorists will suicide bomb they are real terrorists and if they will not, they are not? :lol: Priceless, as usual.

So Christians are terrorists? Lets go on the record here.

What is your point? That someone who professes adherence to the Christian faith can't also be a terrorist? Is that your point Joe? My point is plain as day, all terrorism is politically motivated. There is no religion that has terrorism as part of its belief system.

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I have put you on ignore. No really, I have, but you are still ruining my enjoyment of this site. .

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Politics. Some of players involved happen to be adherents to Islam. This is not a religious war although it's being touted as one. I invite ppl to meet some real life Muslims and have some in depth convos with them. Buying gas or cigarettes from a Muslim doesn't count.

I have three Muslims living in my household. I feel no threat from them. Two have my own blood flowing through their veins.

They are ppl.

Not to bring up religious wars but didn't the Christians wage war on the world at some point in time? Weren't ppl forced to convert under threat of death? VJ and interwebs weren't around back then so of course there weren't news reports or threads about it.

Organized religion in general breeds contempt. Let's try to look outside of the box and view ppl as ppl. Tolerate, love or hate on a case by case basis.

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No offense but what the heck is the war against terror all about, hmmm?

:blink: OMG They've stolen your blood? :blink: Those pesky Muslims!! :whistle:

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one of my elder sisters not only left islam but also became catholic she is still alive and still comes to the home with her husband and children nobody killed her or threatened her ........... really some ridicules ideas about islam......

we have non muslim friends as well as muslim friends..........our loyalty is equal its the person that we look at not the religion

sara

thanks for demonstrating the difference between indian muslims and arab muslims.

as for muslims, i don't reject them as a whole, just the wahibist militants.

i do feel sorry for them, though, and think they might just be overcompensating for their small penises.

mmm im not indian Muslim perviz is ..........im latina Muslim....(there goes that stereo typing of all latins are catholic :whistle: }........how ever Muslim is Muslim the people making all the problem are not Muslim or Christian they are simply terrorist that attack using islam as the reason........anyone that kills innocents people can not be a true muslim we have repeated this so many times and get accused of never speaking out the fact of the matter is no one listens to those of us that do speak out because it does not give them anything to complain or make an issue of

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People Kill and do all kind of crazy thing in the name of religion

Just look at history, WE HAVE FANATICS all all sides, at one point Christians were being persecuted, at other point in History some part of Church itself became the persecutor, Now muslim are the one taking the wrap because of Lunatic Ideological using Islam as their excuse, the same way you have people sending other To kill others but yet carrying a Bible with them.

It is said in the Koran itself, ALL LIFE IS PRECIOUS, NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE LIFE.

So how can you kill someone in the name of Alla?

How can you kill someone and say God in on my side, God is never on the side of murderer.

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Qur'an (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Qur'an (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Qur'an (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Qur'an (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Qur'an (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Qur'an (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Qur'an (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Qur'an (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."

Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Qur'an (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Qur'an (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Qur'an (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Qur'an (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Qur'an (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Qur'an (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

THERE are many many more where that came from... Religion of peace?

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DOUBLE THE HATRED

NOW I KNOW WHY

STILL THIKING OBAMA IS A MUSLIM SO HE MUST BE BAD.

I know quite of few God loving muslim families, they are more Christian than some of those folks walking around with a Bible under their arm and saying AMEN!

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Qur'an (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Qur'an (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Qur'an (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Qur'an (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Qur'an (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Qur'an (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Qur'an (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Qur'an (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."

Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Qur'an (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Qur'an (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Qur'an (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Qur'an (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Qur'an (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Qur'an (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

THERE are many many more where that came from... Religion of peace?

Are these part of at least 361 claims about unbelievers? :unsure:

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Qur'an (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Qur'an (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Qur'an (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Qur'an (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Qur'an (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Qur'an (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Qur'an (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Qur'an (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."

Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Qur'an (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Qur'an (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Qur'an (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Qur'an (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Qur'an (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Qur'an (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

THERE are many many more where that came from... Religion of peace?

Are these part of at least 361 claims about unbelievers? :unsure:

There are far more where that came from.

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WOULD LOVE FROM ONE OF THE RIGHT WING FOLKS HERE TO EXPLAIN ME THIS INCIDENT

Conservatives Group, and Republicans Clapping and Cheering CHICAGO didn't get the Olympic, just as they are wishing for the President to Fail. Like KENNEDY said

ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY!!!

Isn't Chicago AN AMERICAN CITY?

As an american, how can you be cheering, wishing, hoping and Betting against your president and against YOUR OWN COUNTRY?

GOD BLESS AMERICA

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As an american, how can you be cheering, wishing, hoping and Betting against your president and against YOUR OWN COUNTRY?

where was this sentiment about a year ago?

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terrorism exists in every religion. i can whip out a bunch of verses from the Torah and the Bible as well that call for violence against others that do not belong to their faith. it's kind of petty to display that.

in the end, faith makes or breaks a religion. obviously, there is more to these faiths if billions of people subscribe to them.

and in my humble opinion, culture plays a huge part in how people act according to particular elements of their faith. why is it you don't see so called extremists coming from some parts of the world but you do from others?

of course, exceptions exist, which is why this topic is not an easy one to discuss. but i find it funny how the filipino couple can post all those verses from the quran but neglect to look at their own book and see these:

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