The Mitt Romney Thread

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Who were these "heavyweights" you speak of in 2008?

There was no incumbent President to run against in 2008. That's a significant difference. Do you really think that there's a contender in the race that has what it takes to unseat a President?

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There was no incumbent President to run against in 2008. That's a significant difference. Do you really think that there's a contender in the race that has what it takes to unseat a President?

Why not? But back to your point....Now you are taking both sides of the coin! First it is 'heavyweights are sitting out the race in 2012 cause they know they can't unseat a sitting President'......And now all of a sudden it is "there was no incumbent in 2008" so they sat that out too?

Or are you saying there were heavyweights in 2008 but just didn't name them?

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Why not? But back to your point....Now you are taking both sides of the coin! First it is 'heavyweights are sitting out the race in 2012 cause they know they can't unseat a sitting President'......And now all of a sudden it is "there was no incumbent in 2008" so they sat that out too?

Or are you saying there were heavyweights in 2008 but just didn't name them?

It's not that hard, really. If you want to unseat a sitting President, you had better come up with a very strong candidate. If there is no president to unseat (as was the case in 2008), it's an open field which somewhat lowers the demand on the candidates. If the entire field is weak, then one of those weak candidates will get into office even if that candidate would not have what it takes to beat a sitting President.

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An excerpt from a recent Romney speech, from The Economist.

Every turnaround has three rules. Focus, focus, focus. Focus on what's most important, devote all your energy to that which is broken. ... Instead of focusing his energy on the economy he delegated the stimulus to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, and they built a stimulus which grew government jobs but didn't grow private-sector jobs. And then he went to work on his real agenda. And that was cap and trade, to raise energy costs; card check to unionise at places of employment where the employees didn't want unions; Obamacare, where the federal government takes over health-care; and regulatory reform relating to the financial services sector, which of course scared the heck out of anybody in the financial sector. He went to work on this agenda. And virtually every aspect of his agenda increased the degree of uncertainty that existed in the employment sector...

You want to get investors to invest in your idea, and they say "How much are you going to make as a profit," and you say "Well, I don't know. Because I don't know what the cost of my energy will be, or what the cost of my people will be, or how much taxes the federal government will take." If you don't know those answers, you can't get the investments and you can't grow. And banks can't loan if they don't know what the rules are going to be. And so at the very time we needed certainty, he created greater uncertainty. And as a result, our economy hasn't returned to full employment like it should have. We've seen the slowest job recovery since Hoover...

What's wrong? What's wrong is this president put in place a series of economic steps that didn't work. His agenda failed because he doesn't understand how the economy works. It's time to have a president who understands how to create jobs, because he had one, and knows how the economy works for the American people.

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...they built a stimulus which grew government jobs but didn't grow private-sector jobs.

That's patently false. Not that I'm surprised that the lying continues but it's worth pointing out that these type statements are just that: lies.

Month after month throughout 2010 and continuing into 2011, the jobs reports read something like this one from April 2011 (with different figures, of course).

WASHINGTON — Companies created 268,000 jobs in April, the most since February 2006.

The gains were widespread. Retailers, factories, financial companies, education and health care and even construction companies all added jobs.

After subtracting cuts by federal, state and local governments, the economy added 244,000 net jobs last month, the Labor Department said Friday.

Get it? The private sector adds and the various levels of government cut. The exact opposite of what the Republicans continue to claim against their better knowledge. If you give them the benefit of the doubt, then they're just ignorant - I'd give Palin a pass to that end. If they're not - and Mitt Romney certainly isn't - then they're lying. What a dishonest bunch.

Edited May 29, 2011 by Mr. Big Dog

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What a dishonest bunch.

Agree 100%, but what chance do low-information voters (most of us) have when Mr. Romney and the GOP appear to have fooled even the writer for The Economist?

This is to my mind among the most persuasive arguments against Mr Obama's performance as president, and Mr Romney makes it clearly and commandingly.

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Mitt Romney to run for President as an Independent, takes himself out of GOP running

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Mitt on the Road: Detroit, MI

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Mormon candidates for president face high voter unease

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Florida Poll: Romney Beats Obama in Hypothetical Race

Republican Mitt Romney now leads President Barack Obama in a hypothetical matchup in Florida 46 to 42 percent. The survey of 1,000 likely voters shows that 54 percent disapprove of the job the president is doing, according to a Sunshine State News Poll.

"Clearly, the bleak economic landscape is not good news for Obama. This is quite sobering when you consider that the recession technically ended in summer of 2009, which really shows that people don’t believe we are out of the woods by any stretch," Jim Lee, president of Harrisburg, Pa.-based Voter Survey Service that conducted the survey, said according to Sunshine State News.

Lee said that Romney is “is clearly running as the 'most qualified' candidate to get the economy back on track, while candidates like Michele Bachmann and others are talking more about issues that play to the tea party base -- spending, deficits, not raising the debt limit, etc.”

He told Sunshine State News that Romney wins the support of Republicans 74 to 14 percent while Democrats support Obama 71 to 20 percent and independents favor Romney 42 to 38 percent.

Obama polled better than Romney only in the heavily Democratic area of Southeast Florida where he led 57 to 33 percent. "Next year’s election will be much closer for Obama, even if he manages to squeak it out," Lee told the publication.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/florida-poll-romney-beats/2011/07/12/id/403345

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Edited July 16, 2011 by Lord Infamous

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Fast forward to 57 seconds for Bill Maher's take on Romney: