Despite Rising Unemployment, DHS Prepares for Amnesty

[one...two...tree 2,762]

sjr,

The point is there are many undocumented workers in this country who are Filipino, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc. It's not just Mexicans. For a long time and up until recently, we've not only encouraged migrant workers to come up from south of the border to work the fields, we made permissible.

As I said before, if you are concerned about the negative impact on the economy, what is the difference between bringing your spouse here and them? Because you pay some fees and then that somehow nullifies any negative economic impact? Bullsh!t. The fact is, immigrants are a boost to our economy - whether they are documented or undocumented. So why the rage from people like you? How are you personally affected by it? Your whole argument's logic fails.

[sjr09 155]

sjr,

The point is there are many undocumented workers in this country who are Filipino, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc. It's not just Mexicans. For a long time and up until recently, we've not only encouraged migrant workers to come up from south of the border to work the fields, we made permissible.

As I said before, if you are concerned about the negative impact on the economy, what is the difference between bringing your spouse here and them? Because you pay some fees and then that somehow nullifies any negative economic impact? Bullsh!t. The fact is, immigrants are a boost to our economy - whether they are documented or undocumented. So why the rage from people like you? How are you personally affected by it? Your whole argument's logic fails.

Legal immigrants can be a boost to the economy, not illegal immigrants. You ask how it impacts our economy un-like you I will provide facts, illegal immigrant can enter the US and receive free food stamps, health/dental and mental care. Free school lunch for the kids. A legal immigrant can not there for illegal immigrant ad to the burden of our economy not to mention the crimes commented by I legal’s and the cost to jail them! So this is a negative economic impact . Like I said before your statements are utterly ridiculous or lacking sense! Talk facts not some spewing BullSh!t

[mawilson 2,133]

Immigration is immigration in terms of it's impact on the economy. You are trying to make the argument that you importing a spouse doesn't have the same toll on the economy as someone who is here as undocumented worker. Your logic fails.

Of course it doesn't. When you import someone legally, you sign an Affidavit of Support which

guarantees that the immigrant will not become a public charge, and therefore his/her

"toll on the economy" is ZERO.

[mawilson 2,133]

what is the difference between bringing your spouse here and them?

I-864

No-one can come here legally without a sponsor (except refugees.)

[sjr09 155]

Immigration is immigration in terms of it's impact on the economy. You are trying to make the argument that you importing a spouse doesn't have the same toll on the economy as someone who is here as undocumented worker. Your logic fails.

Of course it doesn't. When you import someone legally, you sign an Affidavit of Support which

guarantees that the immigrant will not become a public charge, and therefore his/her

"toll on the economy" is ZERO.

Bingo ZERO TOLL for legal immigration BIG TOLL for illegal immigration. Now your starting to see, a small part of how illegal immigration impacts our economy and safety of US citizens and legal immigrants a-like who a-bides by the laws.

[Niels Bohr 72]

For some odd experience who had imported their wives with an affidavit of support, the person didn't end up need it. So, illegals don't need it as well. Especially for those who have houses.

Very few really need to actually use it.

[mawilson 2,133]

Immigration is immigration in terms of it's impact on the economy. You are trying to make the argument that you importing a spouse doesn't have the same toll on the economy as someone who is here as undocumented worker. Your logic fails.

Of course it doesn't. When you import someone legally, you sign an Affidavit of Support which

guarantees that the immigrant will not become a public charge, and therefore his/her

"toll on the economy" is ZERO.

Bingo ZERO TOLL for legal immigration BIG TOLL for illegal immigration. Now your starting to see, a small part of how illegal immigration impacts our economy and safety of US citizens and legal immigrants a-like who a-bides by the laws.

All you hear are crickets chirping... Stevo got PWNED.

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

Immigration is immigration in terms of it's impact on the economy. You are trying to make the argument that you importing a spouse doesn't have the same toll on the economy as someone who is here as undocumented worker. Your logic fails.

Of course it doesn't. When you import someone legally, you sign an Affidavit of Support which

guarantees that the immigrant will not become a public charge, and therefore his/her

"toll on the economy" is ZERO.

Bingo ZERO TOLL for legal immigration BIG TOLL for illegal immigration. Now your starting to see, a small part of how illegal immigration impacts our economy and safety of US citizens and legal immigrants a-like who a-bides by the laws.

All you hear are crickets chirping... Stevo got PWNED.

nah, he's busy googling.

[sjr09 155]

Immigration is immigration in terms of it's impact on the economy. You are trying to make the argument that you importing a spouse doesn't have the same toll on the economy as someone who is here as undocumented worker. Your logic fails.

Of course it doesn't. When you import someone legally, you sign an Affidavit of Support which

guarantees that the immigrant will not become a public charge, and therefore his/her

"toll on the economy" is ZERO.

Bingo ZERO TOLL for legal immigration BIG TOLL for illegal immigration. Now your starting to see, a small part of how illegal immigration impacts our economy and safety of US citizens and legal immigrants a-like who a-bides by the laws.

All you hear are crickets chirping... Stevo got PWNED.

nah, he's busy googling.

Looking for some real facts?

[natty bumppo 297]

Immigration is immigration in terms of it's impact on the economy. You are trying to make the argument that you importing a spouse doesn't have the same toll on the economy as someone who is here as undocumented worker. Your logic fails.

Of course it doesn't. When you import someone legally, you sign an Affidavit of Support which

guarantees that the immigrant will not become a public charge, and therefore his/her

"toll on the economy" is ZERO.

Bingo ZERO TOLL for legal immigration BIG TOLL for illegal immigration. Now your starting to see, a small part of how illegal immigration impacts our economy and safety of US citizens and legal immigrants a-like who a-bides by the laws.

All you hear are crickets chirping... Stevo got PWNED.

nah, he's busy googling.

that left a nasty image ....

[Pooky 3,786]

Immigration is immigration in terms of it's impact on the economy. You are trying to make the argument that you importing a spouse doesn't have the same toll on the economy as someone who is here as undocumented worker. Your logic fails.

Of course it doesn't. When you import someone legally, you sign an Affidavit of Support which

guarantees that the immigrant will not become a public charge, and therefore his/her

"toll on the economy" is ZERO.

Bingo ZERO TOLL for legal immigration BIG TOLL for illegal immigration. Now your starting to see, a small part of how illegal immigration impacts our economy and safety of US citizens and legal immigrants a-like who a-bides by the laws.

All you hear are crickets chirping... Stevo got PWNED.

nah, he's busy googling.

that left a nasty image ....

Ewww, I've eaten, thankyouverymuch

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Immigration is immigration in terms of it's impact on the economy. You are trying to make the argument that you importing a spouse doesn't have the same toll on the economy as someone who is here as undocumented worker. Your logic fails.

Of course it doesn't. When you import someone legally, you sign an Affidavit of Support which

guarantees that the immigrant will not become a public charge, and therefore his/her

"toll on the economy" is ZERO.

If he loses his job and applies for food stamps, his family size will be factored into how much he would get. The same for any government assistant programs. All the Affidavit of Support means is that he accepts financial responsibility for her should they separate.

As for undocumented workers....they pay taxes but don't file. They also consume and pay sales tax. There was recent study in the state of Texas that showed how much the state would lose if all the illegal immigrants left the state...the cost would be substantial.

Scapegoating low-skilled, undocumented workers when our economy is in a recession takes the focus off the real culprits who put us in this mess in the first place.

[mawilson 2,133]

If he loses his job and applies for food stamps, his family size will be factored into how much he would get. The same for any government assistant programs. All the Affidavit of Support means is that he accepts financial responsibility for her should they separate.

Legal immigrants are NOT eligible for any federal means-tested public benefits.

If they do end up receiving means-tested benefits, the sponsor is required to pay back

whatever the government pays them.

The sponsor may be eligible for a tax break due to his/her family size, but only if the

sponsored immigrant is listed as a dependent (or spouse) on his/her income tax return.

Not all sponsored immigrants are dependents or spouses.

[sjr09 155]

what is the difference between bringing your spouse here and them?

I-864

No-one can come here legally without a sponsor (except refugees.)

Wrong! Visa lottery known as the Diversity Immigrant Lottoery. Visas provided are drawn from countries with low rates of immigration to the U.S. Unlike other immigrant types, Diversity Visas (DV) do not require a U.S. sponsor, and therefore a petition is not needed.

[mawilson 2,133]

what is the difference between bringing your spouse here and them?

I-864

No-one can come here legally without a sponsor (except refugees.)

Wrong! Visa lottery known as the Diversity Immigrant Lottoery. Visas provided are drawn from countries with low rates of immigration to the U.S. Unlike other immigrant types, Diversity Visas (DV) do not require a U.S. sponsor, and therefore a petition is not needed.

Yeah, 50,000 winners. Not exactly a huge number.