Democratic Congressman Describes Republican Health Care Plan: "Die Quickly"

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Yes flood insurance in a state is the same as National Healthcare. You guys really grasp at straws, and guess what. It ain't gonna help ya.

Public option is done-with. At least until Obama doesn't face re-election.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I'll take a shot in the dark, it's the only option because there is no profit in home insurance in Florida because of all the natural disasters.

That's true in parts of Florida. There are plenty of places in the state where private homeowners insurance is available. I have private coverage and picked the best from many offers when I bought it and I keep getting offers from providers to switch my coverage to them. As a resident of Florida, however, in addition to buying insurance for my house, I am now also covering the risk for those that can't live close enough to the coastline while they can't really afford it. And those same folks then want to complain about the shared risk of and a public option in health insurance? What hypocrisy.

Stupidity shouldn't be insured against, unless you find a really stupid insurance company, or an irresponsible government.

Such as the evil, irresponsible and socialist GOP government in sunny Florida?

Yes flood insurance in a state is the same as National Healthcare.

NFIP = National Flood Insurance Program. It's a federal program, not a state insurance.

But by all means, do remain ignorant.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Yes flood insurance in a state is the same as National Healthcare. You guys really grasp at straws, and guess what. It ain't gonna help ya.

Public option is done-with. At least until Obama doesn't face re-election.

Wrong. It will be back, either in the House bill, as an amendment in full Senate, or put back in the bill, during conference. We are a long way from presenting an enrolled bill to the President. There is plenty of time for more mischief. I still believe we won't know exactly what the President will sign until after he has signed it. Just think of the Stimulus Package, and all the stuff we keep finding out, day by day, and they have not even spent 20% of that yet.

Such as the evil, irresponsible and socialist GOP government in sunny Florida?

Right on! Them commies is everywhere.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Public Option ain't happenin. Mark my words.

BTW - you're the one who said "state GOP" not me. I only repeated what you said. Keep being irrelevant.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Public Option ain't happenin. Mark my words.

BTW - you're the one who said "state GOP" not me. I only repeated what you said. Keep being irrelevant.

Trouble reading or trouble comprehending? I was talking about two different public insurance schemes: the NFIP - a federal insurance program which enjoys broad bi-partisan support despite being an evil socialist program - and the socialist public homeowners insurance option which the GOP run state government of Florida created to make homeowners insurance available and affordable after the private insurance failed to do it.

The interesting part about the socialist FL public homeowners insurance option - and why I included it in the discussion - is that it did not lead to the destruction of the private homeowners insurance market (a consequence the uneducated and their party of NO claims is inevitable when a public insurance option competes with private insurance) and that it resulted in a significant reduction of private insurance premiums in this state. And it is interesting because the same party that created this socialist scheme here in FL is now on the record claiming that these accomplishments (availability and affordability via more competition) are impossible to achieve via a public insurance option while they managed to prove the exact opposite in a state they run.

This might be a bit much to grasp for you all at once but I'm hopeful that if you read it over repeatedly, you may get the point eventually.

Edited October 2, 2009 by Mr. Big Dog

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Yes again the worn out "i'm smart you're dumb" argument. Makes you sound dumb in and of itself.

Flood insurance and health insurance are 2 very different things. And it isn't the have's paying for the have nots. You're being disingenuous equating the 2. Whether it be on a state or federal level.

Obama has said repeatedly that a single-payer system is what his ultimate goal is. You want to live in lala-land - fine by me. But the public option will not pass.

[mawilson 2,133]

Public Option ain't happenin. Mark my words.

BTW - you're the one who said "state GOP" not me. I only repeated what you said. Keep being irrelevant.

Go to intrade.com and put your money where your mouth is or shut the f#ck up.

US.GOVT.HEALTHPLAN.DEC09

I am short 10 contracts myself... doubt it'll pass before the end of the year.

Contract Curr Posn Avg Last Tot PL

US.GOVT.HEALTHPLAN.DEC09 USD -10 22.3 21.0 6.80

Am also short 2012.REP.NOM.PALIN...

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Oooo he said F#ck.. he's a tough guy. I better watch out!!!!

It ain't passing by year end, and it ain't passing in Obama's first term. (and hopefully his last)

[mawilson 2,133]

It ain't passing by year end, and it ain't passing in Obama's first term. (and hopefully his last)

Go make some money then.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I am. But it ain't on internet gambling.

[scandal 951]

Public Option ain't happenin. Mark my words.

BTW - you're the one who said "state GOP" not me. I only repeated what you said. Keep being irrelevant.

Go to intrade.com and put your money where your mouth is or shut the f#ck up.

US.GOVT.HEALTHPLAN.DEC09

I am short 10 contracts myself... doubt it'll pass before the end of the year.

Contract Curr Posn Avg Last Tot PL

US.GOVT.HEALTHPLAN.DEC09 USD -10 22.3 21.0 6.80

Am also short 2012.REP.NOM.PALIN...

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[scandal 951]

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[Joseph & Ana 0]

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