Democratic Congressman Describes Republican Health Care Plan: "Die Quickly"

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly," Florida Democrat Alan Grayson stated during a speech to the House of Representatives last night. In the speech, Grayson pulled out a series of signs describing the Republican plan as "don't get sick," then proposed that if you do get sick, the party would like you to die quickly. Unsurprisingly, Grayson's remarks have not been well-received by Republicans, who have compared him to Joe Wilson and demanded that he apologize. Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., immediately posted the video on YouTube in the hopes of mobilizing opposition, and Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., has announced plans to introduce a "resolution of disapproval" similar to the one passed against Wilson to condemn Grayson's behavior. According to Politico, Grayson will distract himself from the fracas this evening by attending the premiere of Michael Moore’s new movie, Capitalism: A Love Story. So far, he has refused to apologize.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2231055/entry/4

[Sofiyya 1,687]

He's a desparate man.

[AlHayatZween 2]

i am so over all these guys. everyone in Congress should receive merit-based pay... meaning the more they posture and the more they merry-go-round, the less they earn.

[chri'stina 190]

I also saw him on CNN this evening. He was very defiant, not at all apologetic and in fact added more insults to the mix! I'd say that's not very helpful. He even tried a tad bit of backtracking in the midst of new insults. He is feisty eh.

[luckytxn 2,264]

It is pretty funny though.

[aidan80 9]

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly," Florida Democrat Alan Grayson stated during a speech to the House of Representatives last night. In the speech, Grayson pulled out a series of signs describing the Republican plan as "don't get sick," then proposed that if you do get sick, the party would like you to die quickly. Unsurprisingly, Grayson's remarks have not been well-received by Republicans, who have compared him to Joe Wilson and demanded that he apologize. Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., immediately posted the video on YouTube in the hopes of mobilizing opposition, and Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., has announced plans to introduce a "resolution of disapproval" similar to the one passed against Wilson to condemn Grayson's behavior. According to Politico, Grayson will distract himself from the fracas this evening by attending the premiere of Michael Moore's new movie, Capitalism: A Love Story. So far, he has refused to apologize.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2231055/entry/4

At last someone grew some testicles and said exactly what those loonies are more or less saying.. don't get sick and if you do then die because it'll cost us money. Even if your insured, if your not it'll still have to cost us money so die quickly because money is more important that your life.

From my experience here in America most I've met here at least are republican quite a lot of them are just the average person.. the majority of them are are clueless as to the issues and what healthcare actually means or could mean to them.. if they lost their job, took a large pay cut..etc I've been shocked to find in a lot of cases they don't know the real difference between left wing and right wing. They pickup sound bites from TV or their right wing church or the internet and repeat.. monkey see monkey do! I try to avoid politics if I can, had enough of that back home but some days I have to admit I want to scream at some of them for honestly being stupid. People struggling to pay their bills, paying out the ####### for medications that can be had in most places in Europe for under $20 paying out cash they don't have anymore.. Yet they oppose the very thing that may ease their own burden because the TV said so!

Quite a lot have no clue as to how the outside world operates, none! They worry so much about "big government" that they've become slaves without knowing it to "Big Business" and you can't cast any votes with those people! Big government is already here in it's many wasteful forms. If government was streamlined and run fast and effectively from the top down with the private sector properly regulated you wouldn't have to worry about paying for healthcare because the money saved from the waste would likely cover that and more.

Edited October 1, 2009 by aidan80

[Tahoma 2,292]

^ You're a quick learner. What you describe is pretty much the way it works here in the U.S.

[Peikko 1,575]

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly," Florida Democrat Alan Grayson stated during a speech to the House of Representatives last night. In the speech, Grayson pulled out a series of signs describing the Republican plan as "don't get sick," then proposed that if you do get sick, the party would like you to die quickly. Unsurprisingly, Grayson's remarks have not been well-received by Republicans, who have compared him to Joe Wilson and demanded that he apologize. Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., immediately posted the video on YouTube in the hopes of mobilizing opposition, and Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., has announced plans to introduce a "resolution of disapproval" similar to the one passed against Wilson to condemn Grayson's behavior. According to Politico, Grayson will distract himself from the fracas this evening by attending the premiere of Michael Moore's new movie, Capitalism: A Love Story. So far, he has refused to apologize.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2231055/entry/4

At last someone grew some testicles and said exactly what those loonies are more or less saying.. don't get sick and if you do then die because it'll cost us money. Even if your insured, if your not it'll still have to cost us money so die quickly because money is more important that your life.

From my experience here in America most I've met here at least are republican quite a lot of them are just the average person.. the majority of them are are clueless as to the issues and what healthcare actually means or could mean to them.. if they lost their job, took a large pay cut..etc I've been shocked to find in a lot of cases they don't know the real difference between left wing and right wing. They pickup sound bites from TV or their right wing church or the internet and repeat.. monkey see monkey do! I try to avoid politics if I can, had enough of that back home but some days I have to admit I want to scream at some of them for honestly being stupid. People struggling to pay their bills, paying out the ####### for medications that can be had in most places in Europe for under $20 paying out cash they don't have anymore.. Yet they oppose the very thing that may ease their own burden because the TV said so!

Quite a lot have no clue as to how the outside world operates, none! They worry so much about "big government" that they've become slaves without knowing it to "Big Business" and you can't cast any votes with those people! Big government is already here in it's many wasteful forms. If government was streamlined and run fast and effectively from the top down with the private sector properly regulated you wouldn't have to worry about paying for healthcare because the money saved from the waste would likely cover that and more.

Quite - for the most part I agree.

[chri'stina 190]

Do most people in any given country really know how other countries run things? I don't think it's fair sometimes when people assume that all Americans should know how for instance it works in the UK and then get criticized for not understanding it. It's very easy for people who have lived now in both places to see the difference first hand rather than hear-say. Why should people just agree to something that they don't know a lot about? I want better healthcare options, affordability, coverage for those who currently can't get it, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with someone's entire plan just because they have a plan. I still don't trust the financial aspect of current plans. This is building something entirely new here. Changing the way people have done things for decades.

[Peikko 1,575]

Do most people in any given country really know how other countries run things? I don't think it's fair sometimes when people assume that all Americans should know how for instance it works in the UK and then get criticized for not understanding it. It's very easy for people who have lived now in both places to see the difference first hand rather than hear-say. Why should people just agree to something that they don't know a lot about? I want better healthcare options, affordability, coverage for those who currently can't get it, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with someone's entire plan just because they have a plan. I still don't trust the financial aspect of current plans. This is building something entirely new here. Changing the way people have done things for decades.

No, probably not in detail, but in principal I think there is a lot of evidence that there are parts of America that are extremely inward looking and have no idea of what goes on outside of America where as in other parts of the world there is a lot of interest in and knowledge of areas outside of the immediate geographic location.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Why is this so hard to understand? Without going into details and without knowing everything about any of the health care system in the developed world, one can look at available data. The numbers are plain and simple: Health care for all at an overall better quality with overall better outcomes and patient satisfaction at roughly half the cost. That is what all other industrialized nations do.

Their models work better and more efficiently than ours. And all of their models are based on more govenment involvement not less and yet they're more efficient and patient oriented than our broken and purely profit oriented system. It's neither a secret nor some big mystery. It doesn't rquire intimate knowledge of the various systems out there. It only requires the ability and willingness to look at available data with an open mind. And even that seems too much to ask.

[Peikko 1,575]

The attitude seems to be either somehow these other systems aren't as efficient as the evidence is telling them, that such systems must have some fundamental flaw (like death panels) and that even if none of this is true, the US government is incapable of emulating such a system because it's necessarily corrupt and should therefore be torn down but only so far, not far enough to get rid of the armed forces or other necessary evils...

[Joseph & Ana 0]

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly," Florida Democrat Alan Grayson stated during a speech to the House of Representatives last night. In the speech, Grayson pulled out a series of signs describing the Republican plan as "don't get sick," then proposed that if you do get sick, the party would like you to die quickly. Unsurprisingly, Grayson's remarks have not been well-received by Republicans, who have compared him to Joe Wilson and demanded that he apologize. Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., immediately posted the video on YouTube in the hopes of mobilizing opposition, and Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., has announced plans to introduce a "resolution of disapproval" similar to the one passed against Wilson to condemn Grayson's behavior. According to Politico, Grayson will distract himself from the fracas this evening by attending the premiere of Michael Moore's new movie, Capitalism: A Love Story. So far, he has refused to apologize.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2231055/entry/4

At last someone grew some testicles and said exactly what those loonies are more or less saying.. don't get sick and if you do then die because it'll cost us money. Even if your insured, if your not it'll still have to cost us money so die quickly because money is more important that your life.

From my experience here in America most I've met here at least are republican quite a lot of them are just the average person.. the majority of them are are clueless as to the issues and what healthcare actually means or could mean to them.. if they lost their job, took a large pay cut..etc I've been shocked to find in a lot of cases they don't know the real difference between left wing and right wing. They pickup sound bites from TV or their right wing church or the internet and repeat.. monkey see monkey do! I try to avoid politics if I can, had enough of that back home but some days I have to admit I want to scream at some of them for honestly being stupid. People struggling to pay their bills, paying out the ####### for medications that can be had in most places in Europe for under $20 paying out cash they don't have anymore.. Yet they oppose the very thing that may ease their own burden because the TV said so!

Quite a lot have no clue as to how the outside world operates, none! They worry so much about "big government" that they've become slaves without knowing it to "Big Business" and you can't cast any votes with those people! Big government is already here in it's many wasteful forms. If government was streamlined and run fast and effectively from the top down with the private sector properly regulated you wouldn't have to worry about paying for healthcare because the money saved from the waste would likely cover that and more.

Quite - for the most part I agree.

You would. Anything anti-american and you're right on board!

I ask the above quoted: Why don't you go back to your gloriously smart country, and leave all of us stupid Americans alone? After all, if its so wonderful you'd still be living there.

[Peikko 1,575]

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly," Florida Democrat Alan Grayson stated during a speech to the House of Representatives last night. In the speech, Grayson pulled out a series of signs describing the Republican plan as "don't get sick," then proposed that if you do get sick, the party would like you to die quickly. Unsurprisingly, Grayson's remarks have not been well-received by Republicans, who have compared him to Joe Wilson and demanded that he apologize. Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., immediately posted the video on YouTube in the hopes of mobilizing opposition, and Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., has announced plans to introduce a "resolution of disapproval" similar to the one passed against Wilson to condemn Grayson's behavior. According to Politico, Grayson will distract himself from the fracas this evening by attending the premiere of Michael Moore's new movie, Capitalism: A Love Story. So far, he has refused to apologize.

http://slatest.slate.com/id/2231055/entry/4

At last someone grew some testicles and said exactly what those loonies are more or less saying.. don't get sick and if you do then die because it'll cost us money. Even if your insured, if your not it'll still have to cost us money so die quickly because money is more important that your life.

From my experience here in America most I've met here at least are republican quite a lot of them are just the average person.. the majority of them are are clueless as to the issues and what healthcare actually means or could mean to them.. if they lost their job, took a large pay cut..etc I've been shocked to find in a lot of cases they don't know the real difference between left wing and right wing. They pickup sound bites from TV or their right wing church or the internet and repeat.. monkey see monkey do! I try to avoid politics if I can, had enough of that back home but some days I have to admit I want to scream at some of them for honestly being stupid. People struggling to pay their bills, paying out the ####### for medications that can be had in most places in Europe for under $20 paying out cash they don't have anymore.. Yet they oppose the very thing that may ease their own burden because the TV said so!

Quite a lot have no clue as to how the outside world operates, none! They worry so much about "big government" that they've become slaves without knowing it to "Big Business" and you can't cast any votes with those people! Big government is already here in it's many wasteful forms. If government was streamlined and run fast and effectively from the top down with the private sector properly regulated you wouldn't have to worry about paying for healthcare because the money saved from the waste would likely cover that and more.

Quite - for the most part I agree.

You would. Anything anti-american and you're right on board!

I ask the above quoted: Why don't you go back to your gloriously smart country, and leave all of us stupid Americans alone? After all, if its so wonderful you'd still be living there.

Stupid is and stupid does, and you do stupid very well indeed. Bravo - what particular back water do you inhabit swamp man?

Edited October 1, 2009 by Madame Cleo

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Why don't you go back to your gloriously smart country, and leave all of us stupid Americans alone?

You stupid Americans are a dying breed. The majority of America sees right through the scare nonsense, has spoken and wants an effective and cost-efficient health care system. You stupid Americans might not be capable of processing that fact but it's a fact all the same.