Just to clear things up

[sandinista! 1,816]

The screen name that members choose does not always reflect their position in life.... I have River as part of my user name but that does not mean that I am a river.... does it.

So please stop with the comments designed to insight a response.

Tay

in the context of an immigration website, there is a huge difference between referring to oneself as "river" and referring to oneself as being someone's "wife". when applying for a k-1 visa, such references can have very serious ramifications if it's something this couple does amongst themselves in their correspondences, if they are planning on using those correspondences as evidence during a visa interview. in the past, there has been a vj member whose fiance was turned away at the point of entry because he was entering the us on a k-1 visa, and he referred to his fiancee as his wife. if my comment incited a response that would lead to this couple being a little more cautious about referring to each other in married terms while pursuing a k-1 visa, i don't see how that could possibly be construed as a negative thing. your jumping to conclusions didn't help anyone here.

[NArocks 13]

**Bump***

[MouadsWife 161]

The screen name that members choose does not always reflect their position in life.... I have River as part of my user name but that does not mean that I am a river.... does it.

So please stop with the comments designed to insight a response.

Tay

in the context of an immigration website, there is a huge difference between referring to oneself as "river" and referring to oneself as being someone's "wife". when applying for a k-1 visa, such references can have very serious ramifications if it's something this couple does amongst themselves in their correspondences, if they are planning on using those correspondences as evidence during a visa interview. in the past, there has been a vj member whose fiance was turned away at the point of entry because he was entering the us on a k-1 visa, and he referred to his fiancee as his wife. if my comment incited a response that would lead to this couple being a little more cautious about referring to each other in married terms while pursuing a k-1 visa, i don't see how that could possibly be construed as a negative thing. your jumping to conclusions didn't help anyone here.

It appeared that between your response "what i don't understand is how someone can be "mouadswife" and be applying for a k-1. how's that work then?" and the one made prior to your from another offensive member held the appearance of insiting negative reactions.

I do not have to explain my user name "MouadsWife" to anyone. As far as turned away from entry... I pretty much doubt he'll be telling the POE officers "oh, by the way... did you know my wifes user name on vj is MoudasWife??" There are also papers one can obtain from court stating one is married or is not married.

Also, the replies had nothing to do with the information that I was trying to gather. I needed these answers for a legitimate reason. Doesnt matter if anyone else thinks these reasons are not founded, but the fact remains I needed the answers. And I received was a bunch of bs from certain members, when all I needed was assistance that wasnt difficult to give.

Vj should be an envroment where people can come and ask without judgement, persecution, or receive people negative oppinions. Dont you suppose there is enough stress in this visa process for members to treat other members like this? Im not talking about what the other members said to me, Im talking about what is being said to all members on this forum. If a person cant say anything nice at all then remember the golden rule and dont say anything at all. There are posts deleted on that forum so no one can go back and get a true perpective. But the point is, we should talk to anyone on vj that way at all. We are all here for support and if you cant give it in a contructive compassionate maner then it shouldnt be given at all. If a person want to be rude to others and insulting, then they shouldnt be here at all. This is not what vj is about and it gives vj a bad name.

[tany1157 161]

The screen name that members choose does not always reflect their position in life.... I have River as part of my user name but that does not mean that I am a river.... does it.

So please stop with the comments designed to insight a response.

Tay

in the context of an immigration website, there is a huge difference between referring to oneself as "river" and referring to oneself as being someone's "wife". when applying for a k-1 visa, such references can have very serious ramifications if it's something this couple does amongst themselves in their correspondences, if they are planning on using those correspondences as evidence during a visa interview. in the past, there has been a vj member whose fiance was turned away at the point of entry because he was entering the us on a k-1 visa, and he referred to his fiancee as his wife. if my comment incited a response that would lead to this couple being a little more cautious about referring to each other in married terms while pursuing a k-1 visa, i don't see how that could possibly be construed as a negative thing. your jumping to conclusions didn't help anyone here.

It appeared that between your response "what i don't understand is how someone can be "mouadswife" and be applying for a k-1. how's that work then?" and the one made prior to your from another offensive member held the appearance of insiting negative reactions.

I do not have to explain my user name "MouadsWife" to anyone. As far as turned away from entry... I pretty much doubt he'll be telling the POE officers "oh, by the way... did you know my wifes user name on vj is MoudasWife??" There are also papers one can obtain from court stating one is married or is not married.

Also, the replies had nothing to do with the information that I was trying to gather. I needed these answers for a legitimate reason. Doesnt matter if anyone else thinks these reasons are not founded, but the fact remains I needed the answers. And I received was a bunch of bs from certain members, when all I needed was assistance that wasnt difficult to give.

Vj should be an envroment where people can come and ask without judgement, persecution, or receive people negative oppinions. Dont you suppose there is enough stress in this visa process for members to treat other members like this? Im not talking about what the other members said to me, Im talking about what is being said to all members on this forum. If a person cant say anything nice at all then remember the golden rule and dont say anything at all. There are posts deleted on that forum so no one can go back and get a true perpective. But the point is, we should talk to anyone on vj that way at all. We are all here for support and if you cant give it in a contructive compassionate maner then it shouldnt be given at all. If a person want to be rude to others and insulting, then they shouldnt be here at all. This is not what vj is about and it gives vj a bad name.

Well said! I am here to get support while I am waiting, I don't see why people have the need to be rude. What seems "unacceptable" to one, might be commonplace for another. (am referring to a comment in the other post who said her SO would have been embarrased if she asked such a question) I think you had a legitimate question, and am disappointed in the response. I am not meaning to ruffle any feathers, but I have only been active on this forum for a couple of months, and I have seen way too much drama. I just want to connect with understanding people who are in my situation. Frankly, I have no idea why people hang around here if they have nothing nice to say.

[morocco4ever 63]

The screen name that members choose does not always reflect their position in life.... I have River as part of my user name but that does not mean that I am a river.... does it.

So please stop with the comments designed to insight a response.

Tay

in the context of an immigration website, there is a huge difference between referring to oneself as "river" and referring to oneself as being someone's "wife". when applying for a k-1 visa, such references can have very serious ramifications if it's something this couple does amongst themselves in their correspondences, if they are planning on using those correspondences as evidence during a visa interview. in the past, there has been a vj member whose fiance was turned away at the point of entry because he was entering the us on a k-1 visa, and he referred to his fiancee as his wife. if my comment incited a response that would lead to this couple being a little more cautious about referring to each other in married terms while pursuing a k-1 visa, i don't see how that could possibly be construed as a negative thing. your jumping to conclusions didn't help anyone here.

It appeared that between your response "what i don't understand is how someone can be "mouadswife" and be applying for a k-1. how's that work then?" and the one made prior to your from another offensive member held the appearance of insiting negative reactions.

I do not have to explain my user name "MouadsWife" to anyone. As far as turned away from entry... I pretty much doubt he'll be telling the POE officers "oh, by the way... did you know my wifes user name on vj is MoudasWife??" There are also papers one can obtain from court stating one is married or is not married.

Also, the replies had nothing to do with the information that I was trying to gather. I needed these answers for a legitimate reason. Doesnt matter if anyone else thinks these reasons are not founded, but the fact remains I needed the answers. And I received was a bunch of bs from certain members, when all I needed was assistance that wasnt difficult to give.

Vj should be an envroment where people can come and ask without judgement, persecution, or receive people negative oppinions. Dont you suppose there is enough stress in this visa process for members to treat other members like this? Im not talking about what the other members said to me, Im talking about what is being said to all members on this forum. If a person cant say anything nice at all then remember the golden rule and dont say anything at all. There are posts deleted on that forum so no one can go back and get a true perpective. But the point is, we should talk to anyone on vj that way at all. We are all here for support and if you cant give it in a contructive compassionate maner then it shouldnt be given at all. If a person want to be rude to others and insulting, then they shouldnt be here at all. This is not what vj is about and it gives vj a bad name.

The purpose of this forum is to assist people. And I wouldn't take what Chemaatah said lightly. I have heard, but I don't know if it true, that the Immigration does skim through this site. Perhaps the chances of this creating a problem is slight, but having a denial myself over a misunderstanding makes me think twice about anything that could possibly lead them to get the wrong impression.

As for assisting you with you questions. It has been way to long for me to remember any of this from memory. I think this is probably why you haven't had much response to your questions. I also think this is why it has been suggested to do a search in VJ. People are willing to help, but is it really fair to ask them to do the same searches that you can do for yourself?

Besides, I thought the golden rule was to stay away from yellow snow.

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

on the bright side, later on she won't need to change her vj name.

my opinion, for what it's worth - it's a mountain out of a molehill.

[morocco4ever 63]

on the bright side, later on she won't need to change her vj name.

my opinion, for what it's worth - it's a mountain out of a molehill.

Behave Charles or I will start a Mafia War with you.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I will concur with Charles.

This is an internet forum where we exchange information behind the anonymity of user names. If we were all restricted to user names that reflect the absolute truth of who we are there would be some very unhappy people out there because their current user names reflect desires, wishful/hopeful thinking, hyperbole, exaggeration,outright nonsense or even issues that are important to them. There is nothing wrong with that, though. The thing is, a user name is really just an identity tool that one uses to participate in a forum. As Shakespeare said . . 'A rose by any other name would smell as sweet" so it really doesn't matter what screen name or user ID someone selects (as long as it isn't offensive) - it does not change the reality of who the person really is. Just because someone wants to select a screen name of 'Silver Wolf' or "High Priestess" or "Green Eggs 'n Ham" it does not mean they are a silver wolf or a high priestess or green eggs and ham. It is attaching far more importance to a basic tool than it requires, or as Charles so aptly put it, it really is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Edited September 25, 2009 by Kathryn41

[MouadsWife 161]

The screen name that members choose does not always reflect their position in life.... I have River as part of my user name but that does not mean that I am a river.... does it.

So please stop with the comments designed to insight a response.

Tay

in the context of an immigration website, there is a huge difference between referring to oneself as "river" and referring to oneself as being someone's "wife". when applying for a k-1 visa, such references can have very serious ramifications if it's something this couple does amongst themselves in their correspondences, if they are planning on using those correspondences as evidence during a visa interview. in the past, there has been a vj member whose fiance was turned away at the point of entry because he was entering the us on a k-1 visa, and he referred to his fiancee as his wife. if my comment incited a response that would lead to this couple being a little more cautious about referring to each other in married terms while pursuing a k-1 visa, i don't see how that could possibly be construed as a negative thing. your jumping to conclusions didn't help anyone here.

It appeared that between your response "what i don't understand is how someone can be "mouadswife" and be applying for a k-1. how's that work then?" and the one made prior to your from another offensive member held the appearance of insiting negative reactions.

I do not have to explain my user name "MouadsWife" to anyone. As far as turned away from entry... I pretty much doubt he'll be telling the POE officers "oh, by the way... did you know my wifes user name on vj is MoudasWife??" There are also papers one can obtain from court stating one is married or is not married.

Also, the replies had nothing to do with the information that I was trying to gather. I needed these answers for a legitimate reason. Doesnt matter if anyone else thinks these reasons are not founded, but the fact remains I needed the answers. And I received was a bunch of bs from certain members, when all I needed was assistance that wasnt difficult to give.

Vj should be an envroment where people can come and ask without judgement, persecution, or receive people negative oppinions. Dont you suppose there is enough stress in this visa process for members to treat other members like this? Im not talking about what the other members said to me, Im talking about what is being said to all members on this forum. If a person cant say anything nice at all then remember the golden rule and dont say anything at all. There are posts deleted on that forum so no one can go back and get a true perpective. But the point is, we should talk to anyone on vj that way at all. We are all here for support and if you cant give it in a contructive compassionate maner then it shouldnt be given at all. If a person want to be rude to others and insulting, then they shouldnt be here at all. This is not what vj is about and it gives vj a bad name.

The purpose of this forum is to assist people. And I wouldn't take what Chemaatah said lightly. I have heard, but I don't know if it true, that the Immigration does skim through this site. Perhaps the chances of this creating a problem is slight, but having a denial myself over a misunderstanding makes me think twice about anything that could possibly lead them to get the wrong impression.

As for assisting you with you questions. It has been way to long for me to remember any of this from memory. I think this is probably why you haven't had much response to your questions. [u]I also think this is why it has been suggested to do a search in VJ. People are willing to help, but is it really fair to ask them to do the same searches that you can do for yourself[/u]?

Besides, I thought the golden rule was to stay away from yellow snow.

If I would have known where to find the information I would have gladly gone to the source rather than to put myself up on the block for comments that are not asked for or helpful. Life is difficult enough without some people making it more so. I was given a link from another vj member who was kind enough to assist me and I have researched it and appreciated it. As far as taking lightly what was said, if it was said in a non critical manor then I could have taken it lightly. But I did not feel it was said in a nice gesture.

What I would like to know, you stated "its unfair to ask people to do searches for me"... I never 'asked' anyone to do any searches for me. I was asking out of a personal experience what fees have they encountered. If it is too much for anyone to help someone 'search' or answer questions, then they are in the wrong place.

Edited September 25, 2009 by MouadsWife

[star_dragon 0]

If I would have known where to find the information I would have gladly gone to the source rather than to put myself up on the block for comments that are not asked for or helpful. Life is difficult enough without some people making it more so. I was given a link from another vj member who was kind enough to assist me and I have researched it and appreciated it. As far as taking lightly what was said, if it was said in a non critical manor then I could have taken it lightly. But I did not feel it was said in a nice gesture.

What I would like to know, you stated "its unfair to ask people to do searches for me"... I never 'asked' anyone to do any searches for me. I was asking out of a personal experience what fees have they encountered. If it is too much for anyone to help someone 'search' or answer questions, then they are in the wrong place.

We went through this process fairly recently and I couldn't even name off the top of my head how much everything together costs. The only thing I could do is go back to old posts and see. I think it's hard to say what the exact fees are because it will be different depending on who you ask and what the fee is. Some will not be the same (the fees fluctuate). The visa fee (not interview) will be stated in your fiance's Packet 3. The medical fees will depend on the doctor he chooses to go to. My husband at the time called all three doctors from the Packet 3 list and each one charged a completely different price. That was last November. I'm sure the prices have probably changed yet again. Court and police record fees and translation, that also depends who you ask. I've never seen anything consistent when it comes to Morocco. The best source of this would be for your fiance to ask around there and start researching there. The AOS fee is clearly $1010 and hasn't changed. Plane tickets will change depending on the time you travel and, the time of day and day of week and who you ask. It's different for everyone depending on their origin/destination. In a matter of a day, prices can triple (and it did for us). I've gotten tickets for $600 and I've gotten them for $1700. It depends. But that's something you can easily plug into orbitz or expedia, just to get an idea.

My advice would be to grab a notebook and start sifting through this website and do forum searches for everything, one by one, and write down the answers you get or cut and paste them into Word documents. Take one issue at a time. Like do a search for "Morocco plane tickets" and keep track of what you find. Then search "Casablanca doctors" or something like that. This includes for fees, interview questions, people's general timelines, etc. It's a LOT of work. I would know, I did it a year ago. You really need to take the time to do the research. Everything is not listed in a pretty little package or answer sheet.

Good luck to you..

[Ban Hammer 13,333]

on the bright side, later on she won't need to change her vj name.

my opinion, for what it's worth - it's a mountain out of a molehill.

Behave Charles or I will start a Mafia War with you.

bring it - compare my stats to yours in the thread on fb. my stats are above yours

[sandinista! 1,816]

***this was never about vj user names. what i was trying to get across is that it is not much of a stretch to imagine that perhaps "mouadswife" may refer to herself as such in other correspondences like emails, chat transcripts, etc. that she has with her fiance. i have read numerous times of other vj users doing this, affectionately with each other, and if they use those correspondences as their evidence at the consulate then they could run into some problems. or if he accidentally referred to his fiance as his wife at the interview, or at the point of entry it could cause problems due to misunderstandings. it has nothing to do with vj. i couldn't care less if she wants to call herself that here, or anywhere else. just be careful with what the consulate sees, or officers at the point of entry hear.

and i certainly can't speak for all moroccan guys on this, but the ones i know would be embarrassed about their wives or fiancees asking about fee stuff for them.

[MouadsWife 161]

***this was never about vj user names. what i was trying to get across is that it is not much of a stretch to imagine that perhaps "mouadswife" may refer to herself as such in other correspondences like emails, chat transcripts, etc. that she has with her fiance. i have read numerous times of other vj users doing this, affectionately with each other, and if they use those correspondences as their evidence at the consulate then they could run into some problems. or if he accidentally referred to his fiance as his wife at the interview, or at the point of entry it could cause problems due to misunderstandings. it has nothing to do with vj. i couldn't care less if she wants to call herself that here, or anywhere else. just be careful with what the consulate sees, or officers at the point of entry hear.

and i certainly can't speak for all moroccan guys on this, but the ones i know would be embarrassed about their wives or fiancees asking about fee stuff for them.

Well, I know 'my' fiance best and his ego does not shatter easily and he's not too proud to ask for help. But thanks for looking out for my relationship. Nice to know someone has my back when it comes to the does and donts of what 'my' fiance may not approve of.

[Staashi 371]

Every true immigration subsection of VJ has a "pinned topics" area. These topics were seen by the users on this site to be the most important threads that pertained to the specific sections. I have seen you post much here in the MENA forum - this forum is wonderful to meet other MENA peeps - especially ladies, as they are the typical USC/ MENA petitioner. I would suggest you ask your true immigration questions in the K1 forum and your cultural questions in this thread. Many will have some experience with what you're going through, but the best place to find CORRECT advice on immigration topics is in the actual forum. I almost compare it to a library and Starbucks - I go to a library to get the most information I can get my hands on, I go Starbucks to get the dish on the gossip.

Good luck!

Edited September 25, 2009 by Staashi

[MouadsWife 161]

Every true immigration subsection of VJ has a "pinned topics" area. These topics were seen by the users on this site to be the most important threads that pertained to the specific sections. I have seen you post much here in the MENA forum - this forum is wonderful to meet other MENA peeps - especially ladies, as they are the typical USC/ MENA petitioner. I would suggest you ask your true immigration questions in the K1 forum and your cultural questions in this thread. Many will have some experience with what you're going through, but the best place to find CORRECT advice on immigration topics is in the actual forum. I almost compare it to a library and Starbucks - I go to a library to get the most information I can get my hands on, I go Starbucks to get the dish on the gossip.

Good luck!

Im finding that is the best place to go to also, and have started doing that more and more. But some of the information can be different depending on where the fiance is from.... so thats when I had the bright idea to post my question about fees here on mena hoping to find some more helpful responses. Turns out, the other forum was more helpful for getting answers to this question. Someone sent me a link, cant remember who, and I peeped at it and it was extremely helpful and had everything in it I had been wanted to know.