EAD and SSN

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OK... so after I went to the SSA monday to apply for my SSN the lady said I could not get a number until I had my BC... It's in the mail should be here tomorrow or sat, SOOOOO, monday I will be going to SSA again to get my SSN now, here is my question... I can get a receipt saying I already applied for the SSN but I want to fill out applications for work and they require a SSN, Do I have to wait until I have card to fill out applications or can I get the number before I get the card?

[Joe_&_Nadiya 1]

OK... so after I went to the SSA monday to apply for my SSN the lady said I could not get a number until I had my BC... It's in the mail should be here tomorrow or sat, SOOOOO, monday I will be going to SSA again to get my SSN now, here is my question... I can get a receipt saying I already applied for the SSN but I want to fill out applications for work and they require a SSN, Do I have to wait until I have card to fill out applications or can I get the number before I get the card?

You will get a receipt from SSA after you apply for your SSN and you won't have a number on it, it will be assigned later. Now, you CAN use the receipt from SSA office to fill out applications or even present it to the future employer (in case you are hired before your card arrives) as a proof of eligibility (don't forget to include your EAD). Once the card arrives, all you have to do is give it to your employer so they can copy it for their records.

Hope it helps.

[I'm Gone 60]

OK... so after I went to the SSA monday to apply for my SSN the lady said I could not get a number until I had my BC... It's in the mail should be here tomorrow or sat, SOOOOO, monday I will be going to SSA again to get my SSN now, here is my question... I can get a receipt saying I already applied for the SSN but I want to fill out applications for work and they require a SSN, Do I have to wait until I have card to fill out applications or can I get the number before I get the card?

What visa type did you enter the U.S. with and when? The birth certificate is the preferred proof of age, but normally they will let you use your passport if you don't have your birth certificate.

The SSA will give you if you ask for it an acknowledgment notice that you have application and you status needs to be verified.

https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100202307

If they can verify your status while you are in the office and the application will be processed, they can give you a receipt

https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0100299090

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Delays in Issuing SSNs to Aliens by the Social Security Administration

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/intern...=129227,00.html

Sometimes aliens experience significant delays in obtaining social security numbers. The consequences of these delays are discussed below.

There is no federal law administered by any federal agency which prohibits the hiring of a person based solely on the fact that the person does not have a Social Security Number (SSN). Similarly, there is no federal law which prohibits the making of a payment to a person based solely on the fact that the person does not have an SSN.

However, there are federal laws and regulations which require the reporting of a payee's TIN (Taxpayer Identification Number--SSN or ITIN) on federal information returns and payee statements such as forms W-2, 1099, 1042-S, etc.

The IRS is quite aware of the Social Security Administration's procedures effective since 09-30-2002 about not issuing an SSN to any alien for whom it cannot confirm his identity and immigration status from the USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services—formerly the INS). In addition, the IRS is quite aware of the potential delays in securing an SSN which these procedures may cause some aliens. Furthermore, in the situation in which an alien is work-authorized under the immigration law and has met the Social Security Administration's evidence requirements for an SSN, but who is experiencing delays in securing an SSN caused by the SSA's procedures, the IRS will not generally issue an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) to such an alien.

With respect to IRS penalties related to the payer's failure to furnish a payee TIN on an information return and on a payee statement, the fact that the payer does not have a payee TIN to report solely because the SSA is delaying an issuance of an SSN, or cannot issue an SSN, to a work-authorized alien because of its procedures, will cause the IRS to be quite favorable toward considering this situation one in which "reasonable cause" exists for not asserting such penalties. The payer should keep documentation to show that his failure to supply a payee TIN on Form W-2 or Form 1099 or Form 1042-S is caused solely by the SSA's procedures for issuing SSN's to aliens.

The IRS cannot speak to the issue of potential penalties which could be imposed by other federal, state, or local agencies for the failure of an employer or payer to report a payee's TIN on any required documents, except to note that the filing of the immigration Form I-9 without an SSN does not constitute grounds, in and of itself, to reject the validity of the Form I-9. If an alien employee can prove his work-eligibility with documents listed on Form I-9 other than a U.S. social security card, then the alien's Form I-9, even though submitted without an SSN, is valid under the immigration law.

[naksah 1]

OK... so after I went to the SSA monday to apply for my SSN the lady said I could not get a number until I had my BC... It's in the mail should be here tomorrow or sat, SOOOOO, monday I will be going to SSA again to get my SSN now, here is my question... I can get a receipt saying I already applied for the SSN but I want to fill out applications for work and they require a SSN, Do I have to wait until I have card to fill out applications or can I get the number before I get the card?

When i applied for my SSN a while back they gave me a receipt with my number on it. If this is still the same, go ahead and use that number on your applications because your employer won't ask for the card until you are called in for an interview or offered the job.

[himher 634]

That's kind of strange. At the SS office my wife used her passport/EAD card for ID/proof of residency and employment and her application went right through. We did not bring or need a birth certificate...

[I'm Gone 60]

That's kind of strange. At the SS office my wife used her passport/EAD card for ID/proof of residency and employment and her application went right through. We did not bring or need a birth certificate...

That's why I also tell people to take the birth certificate if it's handy. It's the preferred proof of age, but normally they will let aliens use their passport.

RM 00203.110 Evidence of Age for an SSN Card:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203110

G. Procedure – Foreign-Born Applicant Applies for an Original SSN Card

Follow this procedure if a foreign-born applicant applies for an original SSN card.

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate in his/her possession or can readily obtain (i.e., within 10 business days) a properly certified copy, ask him/her to submit it

[himher 634]

Interesting. I learned something. Our daughter was born overseas (Saudi, in May) and we have to do the SS application thing in December when we return to the US. I will remember to bring her consular birth report when we go to the office.

That's kind of strange. At the SS office my wife used her passport/EAD card for ID/proof of residency and employment and her application went right through. We did not bring or need a birth certificate...

That's why I also tell people to take the birth certificate if it's handy. It's the preferred proof of age, but normally they will let aliens use their passport.

RM 00203.110 Evidence of Age for an SSN Card:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203110

G. Procedure – Foreign-Born Applicant Applies for an Original SSN Card

Follow this procedure if a foreign-born applicant applies for an original SSN card.

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate in his/her possession or can readily obtain (i.e., within 10 business days) a properly certified copy, ask him/her to submit it

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I had wished I had it but now I do, I am thinking on going today

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I went to get my ssn and the lady that did the app was nice and everyhting.... now wating to get in the mail and she also said that i should wait til i have my card to fill out applicatiosn