Michael Moore: 'Capitalism is anti-Jesus'

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I disagree.. big business is worse than big government (which you have so many layers of already) for one simple reason.. You elect the government you do not elect private business.

Government is there by the people for the people (least that's what they tell us lol), private business is there primarily for the money everything else is secondary to that that includes you and me. I'm all for business and compeition but tell me.. most people get much of a choice when it comes to a phone provider do they.. it's a take it or leave it in many areas.. cable tv is the same.. take it or leave it, cell companies the same all very much so. So many hidden costs and sneaky underhand ways of ripping off the comsumer which just isn't right or fair. They can't say you have to use us but they know you have to use someone and if they are the only game in town then you might as well bend over and take it up the ####### because the unelected are now telling you how it's going to be. That's not democratic, fair or even in my mind capitalist that is insanity. Thats the big and greedy eating the poor and that's just not good.

The people need to take charge of the government, reform it and lay down some laws so these large greedy companies "have" to compete with each other instead of just getting fatter while the rest of us just pay and pay for their greed.

Hey being screwed in the buttocks is considered capitalism by some here; good business practices. Maybe some people like that.

It's just funny and sad to me that many that are the low man on the totem pole are here defending the rich.

I guess your gettin free lube with your socialism?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think Moore has a perfectly valid point linking capitalism to the wholesale purchasing of our political system.

That's not the fault of capitalism per-se, but rather our implementation of it.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I think Moore has a perfectly valid point linking capitalism to the wholesale purchasing of our political system.

That's not the fault of capitalism per-se, but rather our implementation of it.

you wood!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Freudian slip there Marc?

I didn't think you would be watching the movie, but believe it or not Moore isn't the first person to make the connection between politics and capitalism. Its self-evident to a large degree, except in the sense of how pervasive it is.

[Heracles 417]

You elect the government you do not elect private business.

Really?

I guess businesses get their dollars from some mythical unicorn that shits money, eh?

Bingo! Shareholders. The point of this discussion is that consumers are being screwed; consumer who clearly get no choice. In your eyes, regulation is the problem. In the eyes of the rest of the developed world, regulation is the key to ensuring companies do not screw over the consumer for a profit. Let alone screwing over the other employees. These shenanigans by the wealthy is why discussing your salary is a taboo here. Ignorance is how companies keep people down. It's how the rich have kept the average American stupid and clinging on to the military and his guns. Many here have been played like fools and they don't even know it.

Your opinion on the other hand is the funniest of them all as you actually want companies to be allowed to do as they please. Eventually replacing the government and running the country; since they are just so efficient of course. I am still waiting on your answer to why most of my negative experiences here involve private companies. Regulation right?

I guess your gettin free lube with your socialism?

They only people who need the lube is those that are being played for fools by the rich.

Edited September 25, 2009 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

I think Moore has a perfectly valid point linking capitalism to the wholesale purchasing of our political system.

That's not the fault of capitalism per-se, but rather our implementation of it.

Just like everything else, capitalism needs checks and balances.

[zqt3344 21]

Without this capitalist system people like Michael Moore would not be allowed to live freely and film freely like he does, he would be dead if he were say in the Middle East trying this or some Central or South American or perhaps Asian or perhaps African country.

I think Moore has a perfectly valid point linking capitalism to the wholesale purchasing of our political system.

That's not the fault of capitalism per-se, but rather our implementation of it.

Just like everything else, capitalism needs checks and balances.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Freudian slip there Marc?

I didn't think you would be watching the movie, but believe it or not Moore isn't the first person to make the connection between politics and capitalism. Its self-evident to a large degree, except in the sense of how pervasive it is.

Hes just payin his bills and I am not gonna help him. No freud slip here.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think Moore has a perfectly valid point linking capitalism to the wholesale purchasing of our political system.

That's not the fault of capitalism per-se, but rather our implementation of it.

Just like everything else, capitalism needs checks and balances.

Nothing wrong with that.

[mRx 16]

You elect the government you do not elect private business.

Really?

I guess businesses get their dollars from some mythical unicorn that shits money, eh?

Bingo! Shareholders. The point of this discussion is that consumers are being screwed; consumer who clearly get no choice. In your eyes, regulation is the problem. In the eyes of the rest of the developed world, regulation is the key to ensuring companies do not screw over the consumer for a profit. Let alone screwing over the other employees. These shenanigans by the wealthy is why discussing your salary is a taboo here. Ignorance is how companies keep people down. It's how the rich have kept the average American stupid and clinging on to the military and his guns. Many here have been played like fools and they don't even know it.

Your opinion on the other hand is the funniest of them all as you actually want companies to be allowed to do as they please. Eventually replacing the government and running the country; since they are just so efficient of course. I am still waiting on your answer to why most of my negative experiences here involve private companies. Regulation right?

Investment keeps business going? That's cute-- It's something I'd expect my 10 year old neice to say...

Investment is only made in support of future production for anticipated future consumption.

Investment doesn't keep business alive, consumers do.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

You elect the government you do not elect private business.

Really?

I guess businesses get their dollars from some mythical unicorn that shits money, eh?

Bingo! Shareholders. The point of this discussion is that consumers are being screwed; consumer who clearly get no choice. In your eyes, regulation is the problem. In the eyes of the rest of the developed world, regulation is the key to ensuring companies do not screw over the consumer for a profit. Let alone screwing over the other employees. These shenanigans by the wealthy is why discussing your salary is a taboo here. Ignorance is how companies keep people down. It's how the rich have kept the average American stupid and clinging on to the military and his guns. Many here have been played like fools and they don't even know it.

Your opinion on the other hand is the funniest of them all as you actually want companies to be allowed to do as they please. Eventually replacing the government and running the country; since they are just so efficient of course. I am still waiting on your answer to why most of my negative experiences here involve private companies. Regulation right?

Investment keeps business going? That's cute-- It's something I'd expect my 10 year old neice to say...

Investment is only made in support of future production for anticipated future consumption.

Investment doesn't keep business alive, consumers do.

Booyah seems one of the more intelligent liberals, he usually posts in multiple sentences, even complete paragraphs. The Col. can only copy and paste and barely eek out a one liner after that. The Private, being many pay grades below a Col., can't even cut and paste. But Booyah will latch on to something ridiculous and not let go, like a consumption tax won't work in a recession, but an income tax will.

Or that investment "keeps business going" Has he looked at the stock sales of businesses that don't have consumers for their products? An investment is made by a person, any person, with reasonable expectation of getting more back than what you put in. To do that the investor needs to be sure the business with live and thrive, something he knows his investment cannot do, but customers and clients can. Open a buggy whip factory and see how many investors you get to keep your business going.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I will probably rent Moore's movie when it hits netflix - the only documentaries I'll watch in the theatre are nature & wildlife stuff.