proof of relationaship....

[htslogistics-john 1]

thanx guys i was down but this topic is hilarious.

maybe i understood the op wrong, but i tought she said the bottle has something inscribed if so than take a pic and send along with other pics.

[D&R 0]

is a perfume box a good way to show we actually have a relationship? my husband (was my fiance at the time) sent me a bottle of perfume in the mail for my b day when i was in the states, he had written on it and dated it as well. the CO told my husband to send in documents and pictures showing our relationship. so is it silly to also send that in as well?

To the OP: It's not great evidence! In fact, it's pretty useless evidence! but that said... why not include a photo of it anyway. What harm can it do? Just don't rely on it without all the usual 'real' evidence like phone bills, utilities, boarding passes, emails, receipts etc

and to everyone else : It's been great fun reading this thread! I can't believe so much has been written about one small, obviously light hearted comment about a condom. "mountain" and "Molehill" are two words that immediately spring to mind

[Free Jerusalem 0]

My guess,

That the perfume was received in the US before the trip to the west bank and the OP took it with her and is still there.

Sounds like the OP has much bigger issues than a bottle of perfume, including a deliberately contentious screen name, perhaps something the Mods could look at.

If you cant stand to look at my screen name, feel free to ignore me. Don't get all paranoid and think i am deliberately trying to cause arguments. Btw, if Free Jerusalem is "a deliberately contentious screen name" what would you say a screename such as boiler is? Two can play your non sense paranoia game.

[Free Jerusalem 0]

Free Jerusalem,

I have read several of your posts regarding your interview experience and as I recall you had issues with your domicile stating that you currently reside with your husband. I also read that you only had cell phone photos of your wedding and were not adequately prepared for your interview to which several VJ'rs responded about things to bring. During your post "desparate" you were also advised on how to establish domicile with a lease from your parents and opening a bank account on-line.

My point is that if you have been living with your husband and fear having to leave him alone and return before him, how is it that you have a plane ticket (as you stated earlier) showing your return from visiting last year? I am confused, do you live over there with him or in the US? If you live in the US then you have no domicile issues???

I don't mean to doubt anyones posting intentions, however I also believe that it is not fair to all those VJrs trying to offer advice to be led around in circles responding to condradicting questions.

To summize your OP;

1. If you can prove that the gift came from him, send the receipt or card that came with it, otherwise it does not prove relationship

2. If you live over with him and do not wish to return without him as in your previous posts, you should have SOME photos, if not TAKE some together and with family

3. If you live in the US as you said in this thread, then start making copies of e-mails, phone records, phone cards, anything you got AND open a bank account and sign a lease with your mother, dont bother with gifts that you cannot prove came from him, they are nice but not useful.

4. Regardless of where you actually live, this time when you go to the interview, bring proof other than cell phone photos and 2 photos in your wallet.

I wish you the best of luck

Contradicting questions? How is that ? Maybe you don't understand EXACTLY whats going on, just please don't assume I'm contradicting myself or lying. Here is whats going on, i met my husband in 2007, we got legally married (I'm Muslim) then i stayed in Pali for about a month and went back to the states to finish my semester of college. Then, i came back to be with my husband. (that is the plane ticket i am talking about and that was about a year ago) since then,i have been in Palestine. THAT is where domicile comes in. get it ?

[Free Jerusalem 0]

Free Jerusalem,

I have read several of your posts regarding your interview experience and as I recall you had issues with your domicile stating that you currently reside with your husband. I also read that you only had cell phone photos of your wedding and were not adequately prepared for your interview to which several VJ'rs responded about things to bring. During your post "desparate" you were also advised on how to establish domicile with a lease from your parents and opening a bank account on-line.

My point is that if you have been living with your husband and fear having to leave him alone and return before him, how is it that you have a plane ticket (as you stated earlier) showing your return from visiting last year? I am confused, do you live over there with him or in the US? If you live in the US then you have no domicile issues???

I don't mean to doubt anyones posting intentions, however I also believe that it is not fair to all those VJrs trying to offer advice to be led around in circles responding to condradicting questions.

To summize your OP;

1. If you can prove that the gift came from him, send the receipt or card that came with it, otherwise it does not prove relationship

2. If you live over with him and do not wish to return without him as in your previous posts, you should have SOME photos, if not TAKE some together and with family

3. If you live in the US as you said in this thread, then start making copies of e-mails, phone records, phone cards, anything you got AND open a bank account and sign a lease with your mother, dont bother with gifts that you cannot prove came from him, they are nice but not useful.

4. Regardless of where you actually live, this time when you go to the interview, bring proof other than cell phone photos and 2 photos in your wallet.

I wish you the best of luck

for number 3, i do have pictures of us with family.

for number 4 , i said I WAS IN THE STATES AT THE TIME , then came to be with him and that is the plane ticket i mentioned earlier.

A perfume box is not useful evidence, neither is a c****m, unless is contains DNA from both parties which can be dated to a certain time period, something that would have to be verified by a forensic expert.

As much as I understand to keep this forum clean and free of inappropriate postings, I think we all need to lighten up a little. Making in inappropriate posting is not good, but posting that it was inappropriate doesn't contribute to helping an OP either as both are inappropriate postings.

So if you are only posting to post that somebody else posted something you think they shouldn't have posted, don't post it.

thank you !

Another 4 pages of ego clashing and sniping culminating in a complete waste of time reading! what is this forum coming to? Can't people just answer the damn question or shut up?

I wouldn't bother with the perfume box, though receipts/photographs/letter's/b-day cards etc would be a better way to go

Good luck!

thank you so much, but the bday cards he sent me were in arabic i fear they wont accept them

[ZorValachan 0]

thank you so much, but the bday cards he sent me were in arabic i fear they wont accept them

If you fear this, just have them translated. The same certified translation as you did for the police report and birth certificate.

[Free Jerusalem 0]

How about a condom?

Haole, your comment is not helpful, if you have nothing constructive to add then please dont post.

exactly what i was going to say

[D&R 0]

How about a condom?

Haole, your comment is not helpful, if you have nothing constructive to add then please dont post.

exactly what i was going to say

Jesus! Where's your sense of humour???? It was a funny light hearted comment... no more, no less! Have a giggle and move on

[Free Jerusalem 0]

How about a condom?

Haole, your comment is not helpful, if you have nothing constructive to add then please dont post.

exactly what i was going to say

Jesus! Where's your sense of humour???? It was a funny light hearted comment... no more, no less! Have a giggle and move on

If i needed funny light hearted comments, i would just go to a joke website. I needed help and advice, and that comment did nothing but add stress.

[D&R 0]

How about a condom?

Haole, your comment is not helpful, if you have nothing constructive to add then please dont post.

exactly what i was going to say

Jesus! Where's your sense of humour???? It was a funny light hearted comment... no more, no less! Have a giggle and move on

If i needed funny light hearted comments, i would just go to a joke website. I needed help and advice, and that comment did nothing but add stress.

If you get stressed THAT easily, then I suggest you might be in need of help of some sort.

http://www.samaritans.org/your_emotional_h...ing_stress.aspx

It's worth remembering that everyone on here is in the same boat (or has been at one point or another). Getting stressed over one persons reply that you don't like, is just pointless. It's a public thread and you're going to get all kinds of replies on here... same people will help, some people will be more candid, and others will try to help and in fact, confuse you more.... just pick out the ones that help you, and disregard the others. Simple!

[Free Jerusalem 0]

How about a condom?

Haole, your comment is not helpful, if you have nothing constructive to add then please dont post.

exactly what i was going to say

Jesus! Where's your sense of humour???? It was a funny light hearted comment... no more, no less! Have a giggle and move on

If i needed funny light hearted comments, i would just go to a joke website. I needed help and advice, and that comment did nothing but add stress.

If you get stressed THAT easily, then I suggest you might be in need of help of some sort.

http://www.samaritans.org/your_emotional_h...ing_stress.aspx

It's worth remembering that everyone on here is in the same boat (or has been at one point or another). Getting stressed over one persons reply that you don't like, is just pointless. It's a public thread and you're going to get all kinds of replies on here... same people will help, some people will be more candid, and others will try to help and in fact, confuse you more.... just pick out the ones that help you, and disregard the others. Simple!

LMAO, omg dude you're so random! Okay, advice taken .... i will try to lighten up, i am just very stressed btw , i do find the website idea funny

[Free Jerusalem 0]

thank you so much, but the bday cards he sent me were in arabic i fear they wont accept them

If you fear this, just have them translated. The same certified translation as you did for the police report and birth certificate.

yeah, that is what we are going to do. But bday cards and a perfume box seem like the same idea to me... or am i wrong? I am not sending the perfume box anymore, just curious though.

[christeen 966]

Thank you for clearing up your residency questions and that makes your proof gathering way easier. Being over there with him (lucky you), you should be able to bring all kinds of photos of you together and with his family as well as show some things you do together (dinner receipts, places you go together etc..) other than just the cell phone photos and 2 wallet photos that you used a proof in your first interview. Stick with the pitctures, plane tickets, e-mails etc.. and other tangible proof. As far as the cards, it should not be your PRIMARY evidence but all part of a quilt showing your life together so I dont think official translations will be necessary but you might want to put a note inside the cards translating what he is saying. But I would stick with paper things, not boxes, presents or videos... just photos or paper to make it easier on everyone.

For your second issue with the embassy, bring a copy of a bank account opened with the address of your parents, the water bill you said is in your name and sign a lease with your parents all showing your intent to live in the USA upon receiving the green card.

Best of luck

[Free Jerusalem 0]

Thank you for clearing up your residency questions and that makes your proof gathering way easier. Being over there with him (lucky you), you should be able to bring all kinds of photos of you together and with his family as well as show some things you do together (dinner receipts, places you go together etc..) other than just the cell phone photos and 2 wallet photos that you used a proof in your first interview. Stick with the pitctures, plane tickets, e-mails etc.. and other tangible proof. As far as the cards, it should not be your PRIMARY evidence but all part of a quilt showing your life together so I dont think official translations will be necessary but you might want to put a note inside the cards translating what he is saying. But I would stick with paper things, not boxes, presents or videos... just photos or paper to make it easier on everyone.

For your second issue with the embassy, bring a copy of a bank account opened with the address of your parents, the water bill you said is in your name and sign a lease with your parents all showing your intent to live in the USA upon receiving the green card.

Best of luck

Hey, thank YOU... i just didn't want you thinking i was purposely contradiction myself you know! Sorry if i got a little bi*chy... i honestly didn't mean to sound that way if i did, i just don't lie and didn't want u thinking i was lying you know?! I dont take VJ for granted, seriously it is such an asset to have people like u trying to help, i really appreciate it !

I am terrified i have a problem though... my love does not like too many pictures, but in the year we have been here together, i forcefully (lol) managed to take 53 pictures.... most of them just me and him goofing around u know. i have a few on the EID (muslim holiday) and about 4 or 5 at some restaurants in Ramallah. Basically as i said, most of the others are just us goofing around. But some are obvious they are in the winter, and some obvious they are in the summer (from the clothes and scenery around us) ... i pray to God that will be enough.

as for the plane tickets, like i said i only have one...

you said restaurant receipts? Okay the thing is here in Palestine we really don't get receipts, lol...rarely do they give out receipts and when they do, we never kept them. i mean honestly, call me UNPREPARED but i never thought our marriage would be questioned in this manner that is why i never thought to keep them. Not to sound evil but i am happy i am not the only one having to prove i love my husband by showing pics and other things.

you also mentioned e mail, i have a few, but we mostly communicated through phone since he is in the same place as i am , and by SMS messages. should i print all the sms messages out ?! do those work like email ?

someone else mentioned gifts, when he bought me gifts he would usually send them with relatives or friends in the states, but neways they don't give receipts here !!! he bought me 2 main gifts, and both were gold, one was a necklace and the other was a ring. so how can those help ? how can i send THOSE in...? and how is that better proof than a perfume box ...?

i bought him gifts from dillards and mervyns mainly on credit cards which are all paid off now.... should i try and find those statements and print them out, highlight the gifts and send in the statement? sorry for the headache and all the questions, ANYONES ADVICE IS GREATLY APPRECIATED !!!!

its been almost 3 weeks since the interview, and i wante to have everything perfect when i send the stuff in, but at the same time i dont want to take too long to send them in u know... i am scared they will send the case back to the NVC... you think they will do that ?! Neways i am giving myself another week MAX then God willing, i will send everything in.

AP IS SUCH A TERRIBLE UGLY NIGHTMARE !!!!

thank u again

[christeen 966]

I would let your husband know that you NEED to get some photos of the two of you with his family and that they are VITAL to your case. As far as the gifts, you do not send the ACTUAL gifts, but photos of the cards and you or him with them and the receipt for them... that sort of thing. But since receipts do not seem to be your thing (which I understand, I throw everything out too), I would get letters from family members stating that you have a bonafied marriage and that they know the two of you to be a married couple. You can have them translated... The wedding photos and all the other photos you will NEED to bring and if you can get a printout of your SMS messages or at least a printout of your phone records showing all the communication between the two of you, that is good two. But do not send in actual gifts, videos etc... just paper things like photos, documents, bills etc... You can also purchase a term life insurance policy online for like $2 a month and name him as the beneficerary.