Yardies at Home and a Farrin (part 19)

[phillyfashionista 8]

Yeah...but were the results of them being "stunning and talented" as you say due to people treating them differently--being encouraged more, being provided w/ more opportunities or acceptance based on appearance, etc and as a result they were given access to more, and thus able to achieve more? Simple and plain, the overall tone of society is that they are more accepting. Because really, everyone has the potential to be stunning and talented...but are they being given encouragement and opportunities to do so. Now don't get me wrong, I know that mixed race children do get teased, and do struggle with the idea of who they can identify with, but in regards to overall acceptance, I honestly feel that the fairer skinned, mixed race child is still going to come out on top. I definitely agree with you though that it is up to the parents and family of our children to make sure that they are all talented, stunning, beautiful, and genuine. And then we will have a generation of superstars, chemists, doctors, mathematicians, whatever the color.

Interesting topic today.

Maybe it depends on the generation. I know my mother & her siblings were fair skinned (though both parents were Black). When they were in school, their big struggle was with fitting in. The White kids knew that they were Black, so they didn't accept them. The Black kids called them names like wanna-be & high yellow heifer and were mean. I think things may be different for today's children, though, since interracial relationships are more common.

Yuh see it mi too mi gyal I hated that term especially HIGH YELLOW it makes my blood a boil!!!

[Mrs. Palmer 5]

Mrs P. - you make some very valid points. i agree that it is a true shame that anyone would not love themselves for who they are and what they look like. all children are beautiful and special....i agree with you 100%

however, interracial children do come with their own set of challenges.....they question their own identity. who am i? am i white? am i black? i don't look like either one....where do i fit in? It is up to us as parents to make our children feel special and important no matter what their makeup is...

i don't believe that interracial children are 'better' or 'more beautiful' than those of their one race counterparts (that would go for someone who is all black or all white or all whatever) but I do think that interracial children are more interesting and unique..

what i find interesting is that for centuries and centuries breeding outside of one's race has been so taboo and so wrong and so looked down upon and to some people downright disgusting(in societys eyes) and when people finally started to do it, the result has been some extremely stunning and talented human beings...

Yeah...but were the results of them being "stunning and talented" as you say due to people treating them differently--being encouraged more, being provided w/ more opportunities or acceptance based on appearance, etc and as a result they were given access to more, and thus able to achieve more? Simple and plain, the overall tone of society is that they are more accepting. Because really, everyone has the potential to be stunning and talented...but are they being given encouragement and opportunities to do so. Now don't get me wrong, I know that mixed race children do get teased, and do struggle with the idea of who they can identify with, but in regards to overall acceptance, I honestly feel that the fairer skinned, mixed race child is still going to come out on top. I definitely agree with you though that it is up to the parents and family of our children to make sure that they are all talented, stunning, beautiful, and genuine. And then we will have a generation of superstars, chemists, doctors, mathematicians, whatever the color.

so would it be fair to say that you believe the same to be true for a white person? or a light skinned black person?

meaning...the lighter the skin, the more advantage one has in society? regardless of racial makeup?

Yes. Whether the fair-skinned or white person believes this...overall they will be looked at differently, treated differently. And if you honestly believe that this is not true, then I am sorry. I wish this were a kum-ba-yah world. But it is not. And I know first hand just from listening to the people I work with, along w/ listening to my family members (varying shades), and am currently dealing w/ it with my 9-year old godchild who has begun to deal with these remarks and/or actions in her school and community environment. Am I saying that it is as pervasive as it was in say slavery or the 50's and 60's--No...but the problem is still very relevant today. And until we are willing to acknowledge this and then work to figure out how we can eradicate this way of thinking, then it will continue to be. And rest assured, that it will happen with your children one day. Even if not by you, by someone else in society, and then...

[IrieCat 2]

Back in SLU I would hear Louis and his friends, and anyone really referring to people as Yellow or Red, I really couldnt see it. Louis' best friend is "yellow" I am thinking he looks brown to me?? They always used this as a way to describe someone to another person... like "You know him... he is that Yellow skin fella Louis hangs with" ... I never heard anyone making fun of anyone becuase of their color but I am sure that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I often wonder what Tierra will go through when she is older and out in the world. She LOVES that she is brown and beautiful, but most people don't see her as brown... until they meet me!

My hope is that people will see her has smart and talented, rather than the mixed girl, or black or white.

[DaDa 1]

Again, I have to agree, just look how they charge up the prices if you want you fiance to spend the day with you at a resort. I stayed at the RIU (mobay) and they wanted to charge me 100.00 just for about 6 hrs with my fiance...after dem bastids lost my bathing suit

Thanks Ells for the congrats

Yes Ms Tee wasnt that crazy!!! When I stayed a the Riu for a few days in Mobay I got the same response.

[finesse 3]

Mrs P. - you make some very valid points. i agree that it is a true shame that anyone would not love themselves for who they are and what they look like. all children are beautiful and special....i agree with you 100%

however, interracial children do come with their own set of challenges.....they question their own identity. who am i? am i white? am i black? i don't look like either one....where do i fit in? It is up to us as parents to make our children feel special and important no matter what their makeup is...

i don't believe that interracial children are 'better' or 'more beautiful' than those of their one race counterparts (that would go for someone who is all black or all white or all whatever) but I do think that interracial children are more interesting and unique..

what i find interesting is that for centuries and centuries breeding outside of one's race has been so taboo and so wrong and so looked down upon and to some people downright disgusting(in societys eyes) and when people finally started to do it, the result has been some extremely stunning and talented human beings...

Yeah...but were the results of them being "stunning and talented" as you say due to people treating them differently--being encouraged more, being provided w/ more opportunities or acceptance based on appearance, etc and as a result they were given access to more, and thus able to achieve more? Simple and plain, the overall tone of society is that they are more accepting. Because really, everyone has the potential to be stunning and talented...but are they being given encouragement and opportunities to do so. Now don't get me wrong, I know that mixed race children do get teased, and do struggle with the idea of who they can identify with, but in regards to overall acceptance, I honestly feel that the fairer skinned, mixed race child is still going to come out on top. I definitely agree with you though that it is up to the parents and family of our children to make sure that they are all talented, stunning, beautiful, and genuine. And then we will have a generation of superstars, chemists, doctors, mathematicians, whatever the color.

so would it be fair to say that you believe the same to be true for a white person? or a light skinned black person?

meaning...the lighter the skin, the more advantage one has in society? regardless of racial makeup?

Yes. Whether the fair-skinned or white person believes this...overall they will be looked at differently, treated differently. And if you honestly believe that this is not true, then I am sorry. I wish this were a kum-ba-yah world. But it is not. And I know first hand just from listening to the people I work with, along w/ listening to my family members (varying shades), and am currently dealing w/ it with my 9-year old godchild who has begun to deal with these remarks and/or actions in her school and community environment. Am I saying that it is as pervasive as it was in say slavery or the 50's and 60's--No...but the problem is still very relevant today. And until we are willing to acknowledge this and then work to figure out how we can eradicate this way of thinking, then it will continue to be. And rest assured, that it will happen with your children one day. Even if not by you, by someone else in society, and then...

I DO agree with you, Mrs. P!! The point I'm trying to make is that your argument is not specific to interracial children then (that they have more opportunities than 100% black children).....your point is correct (in my opinion) but it really applies to anyone with lighter skin than a black person- white, interracial, or lighter skinned black....not just an interracial child

Edited October 13, 2009 by finesse

[Shemmy 4]

Hey Ells and Sunray ((( waving)))

Shemmy Dash weh mi send yuh and email fi deh clothes dem...

Please do. I was going to email you for some ideas.

[Chiney*Eyes 0]

WAH GWAAN EVERYBODY!!

mi wi tek a backseat pon dis yere topic

[dancehallquana 5]

lunch time.. but one must eat right.. so

i will hang only for a min..

i agree w/ u mrs p on both points being discussed..

name writing- when i was reading that post.. i was like..WTH????????.. i understand some are held back educationally, but my fiance dang well know how to write MY name!!! CHO!!! at least by the interview.. (WELL BEFORE THEN in my opinion..but thats just me.)LOL hope i don't offend..

light skinned vs dark skinned.. the kids, ppl, whatever are treated differently for the most part, better at times..i don't know if it ever will change yunno, the best we can do is try to make our children feel good no matter what i guess, cuz even tho u may not promote it at home SOCIETY as a whole does..

in the commercials and store ads.. most of the time we see a light skinned child w/ "good" hair

in videos " light skinned" women are the unattainable or dream girl.. while darker skin seemed to be the booty shakers and round the way girl..

my daughter used to say ( she was only 3) that she wanted a white barbie doll, not a black one.. i have no idea why.. cuz we never talked about color.. all of us (her dad, me and her sister) were the same shade.. but she would out right say.. i want a white barbie doll for xmas..

Edited October 13, 2009 by dancehallquana

[Mrs. Palmer 5]

WAH GWAAN EVERYBODY!!

mi wi tek a backseat pon dis yere topic

RAHTID! Yuh no backseat rida! Wha yuh wan sey? Hey!

[finesse 3]

WAH GWAAN EVERYBODY!!

mi wi tek a backseat pon dis yere topic

where yuh been hiding?

[dancehallquana 5]

of course i didn't explain to her then.. but as she got older and didn't like to reference things as black.. it was always brown, "im brown mama".. i laid it on her.. i didn't like where this was going....but in a world where u have comments like..ughh u sure look BLACK on the picture, ughhh stay out the sun, u getting BLACK.. what do we expect???

okay.. time to go check on my other AOS ppl and back to work..

dillon..roger went for biometrics this morning and they told him to come back at 3pm.. so im crossing my fingers.. girl if he get the EAD b4 his bday..that would be THE BEST!!!

im out yardies..

[finesse 3]

WAH GWAAN EVERYBODY!!

mi wi tek a backseat pon dis yere topic

RAHTID! Yuh no backseat rida! Wha yuh wan sey? Hey!

kimmy = fraidy cat

[Mrs. Palmer 5]

Mrs P. - you make some very valid points. i agree that it is a true shame that anyone would not love themselves for who they are and what they look like. all children are beautiful and special....i agree with you 100%

however, interracial children do come with their own set of challenges.....they question their own identity. who am i? am i white? am i black? i don't look like either one....where do i fit in? It is up to us as parents to make our children feel special and important no matter what their makeup is...

i don't believe that interracial children are 'better' or 'more beautiful' than those of their one race counterparts (that would go for someone who is all black or all white or all whatever) but I do think that interracial children are more interesting and unique..

what i find interesting is that for centuries and centuries breeding outside of one's race has been so taboo and so wrong and so looked down upon and to some people downright disgusting(in societys eyes) and when people finally started to do it, the result has been some extremely stunning and talented human beings...

Yeah...but were the results of them being "stunning and talented" as you say due to people treating them differently--being encouraged more, being provided w/ more opportunities or acceptance based on appearance, etc and as a result they were given access to more, and thus able to achieve more? Simple and plain, the overall tone of society is that they are more accepting. Because really, everyone has the potential to be stunning and talented...but are they being given encouragement and opportunities to do so. Now don't get me wrong, I know that mixed race children do get teased, and do struggle with the idea of who they can identify with, but in regards to overall acceptance, I honestly feel that the fairer skinned, mixed race child is still going to come out on top. I definitely agree with you though that it is up to the parents and family of our children to make sure that they are all talented, stunning, beautiful, and genuine. And then we will have a generation of superstars, chemists, doctors, mathematicians, whatever the color.

so would it be fair to say that you believe the same to be true for a white person? or a light skinned black person?

meaning...the lighter the skin, the more advantage one has in society? regardless of racial makeup?

Yes. Whether the fair-skinned or white person believes this...overall they will be looked at differently, treated differently. And if you honestly believe that this is not true, then I am sorry. I wish this were a kum-ba-yah world. But it is not. And I know first hand just from listening to the people I work with, along w/ listening to my family members (varying shades), and am currently dealing w/ it with my 9-year old godchild who has begun to deal with these remarks and/or actions in her school and community environment. Am I saying that it is as pervasive as it was in say slavery or the 50's and 60's--No...but the problem is still very relevant today. And until we are willing to acknowledge this and then work to figure out how we can eradicate this way of thinking, then it will continue to be. And rest assured, that it will happen with your children one day. Even if not by you, by someone else in society, and then...

I DO agree with you, Mrs. P!! The point I'm trying to make is that your argument is not specific to interracial children then (that they have more opportunities than 100% black children).....your point is correct (in my opinion) but it really applies to anyone with lighter skin than a black person- white, interracial, or lighter skinned black....not just an interracial child

You're right Finesse! I think I said that though in the beginning because the statement was made originally in reference to interracial children. All I want is for everyone to spread the love! And knowledge. And peace. And understanding. And raise hup your pickney to love themselves no matter wha no one else says. Don't let others perception of them allow them to limit themselves and determine what they can/cannot be able to achieve!

[sus 70]

WAH GWAAN EVERYBODY!!

mi wi tek a backseat pon dis yere topic

Dat's cause yuh ave one likkle pickney wid di milk man!

of course i didn't explain to her then.. but as she got older and didn't like to reference things as black.. it was always brown, "im brown mama".. i laid it on her.. i didn't like where this was going....but in a world where u have comments like..ughh u sure look BLACK on the picture, ughhh stay out the sun, u getting BLACK.. what do we expect???

okay.. time to go check on my other AOS ppl and back to work..

dillon..roger went for biometrics this morning and they told him to come back at 3pm.. so im crossing my fingers.. girl if he get the EAD b4 his bday..that would be THE BEST!!!

im out yardies..

Crossing fingers that he will get it done, Quana!

[Mrs. Palmer 5]

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