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I guess all of these people who are against federal (socialist) healthcare also never visit libraries or drive on the Interstate system....

Damn Socialists! Everyone knows the government can't possibly run a large venture like healthcare or an Interstate highway system!

#######????????

I'm so glad it was you who posted after me....

Why aren't conservatives throwing a fit about paying for something they never use - libraries? It's a socialist, government-run drain on working people! Taxes pay for libraries, but not everyone uses or needs them. Where's the outrage?

Same for Interstates. Millions of people live in cities and never, ever leave; therefore never using the Interstate (Federal) system that THEIR tax dollars are paying for! They don't need them, so why should they have to pay for them?

I dont think libraries are 1/6 th of the economy. also if I return my book late Im not gonna fvckin die!

Highway taxes are included in the gas prices in my state.

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Obama has no clue how to implement National Healthcare plan option. And that is why it is going to fail.

Doomed I say! :wacko:

I guess all of these people who are against federal (socialist) healthcare also never visit libraries or drive on the Interstate system....

Damn Socialists! Everyone knows the government can't possibly run a large venture like healthcare or an Interstate highway system!

#######????????

I'm so glad it was you who posted after me....

Why aren't conservatives throwing a fit about paying for something they never use - libraries? It's a socialist, government-run drain on working people! Taxes pay for libraries, but not everyone uses or needs them. Where's the outrage?

Same for Interstates. Millions of people live in cities and never, ever leave; therefore never using the Interstate (Federal) system that THEIR tax dollars are paying for! They don't need them, so why should they have to pay for them?

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Once again, it's the people who already have insurance who don't want national healthcare. Let them lose their job, though, and they'd be the first one asking where their health care is. Me, I've only had health insurance twice in my life. Most of the people I know don't have health insurance. I'd gladly pay more in taxes to have health insurance. I'd be even more glad to if I could stop paying for Iraqi health care at the same time.

From the (admittedly left-wing) Huffington Post (it's true, though):

You'd better sit down, folks.

Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution, drafted by your right-wing Bushies in 2005 and ratified by the Iraqi people, includes state-guaranteed (single payer) healthcare for life for every Iraqi citizen.

Article 31 reads:

"First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The State shall maintain public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and health institutions.

Second: Individuals and entities have the right to build hospitals, clinics,or private health care centers under the supervision of the State, and this shall be regulated by law."

There are other health care guarantees, including special provisions for children, the elderly, and the handicapped elsewhere in the 43-page document.

Under force of arms, President Bush imposed his particular idea of democracy on a people not asking for it - perhaps a noble undertaking in one context and a criminal violation of international law in another. Bush's followers are proud of the Iraqi Constitution, a model for the world, they told us.

So, according to the American political right-wing, government-guaranteed health care is good for Iraqis, but not good for us. Not good for you. They decry even a limited public option for you, but gleefully imposed upon the Iraqis what they label here as "socialism," with much Democratic Party member support.

Indeed, reading the Iraqi Constitution so near to the 8th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is instructive. It is the very definition of American right-wing hypocrisy.

We have (thus far) sacrificed more blood to wrest Iraq from tyranny than we lost on 9/11. In addition, according to the Congressional Research Service, as of May 15, 2009 (Report 7-5700/RL33110) we have spent and/or authorized $864 Billion in military operations on Operation Enduring Freedom, which includes Iraq and Afghanistan. The overwhelming majority of those funds have been for the war in Iraq. Additional secret funding has been authorized for intelligence and special operations.

The total is more than (or, in the worst case, equal to) the funding required to guarantee minimally decent health care here.

In other words, the most senior members of the Republican establishment - and some Democrats like Max Baucus (D-MT) - have gladly spent more taxpayer funds to ensure health care as a Constitutional right in Iraq than they are willing to spend to give you any level of guaranteed coverage.

The source document I used is from the official United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq. If you'd like to download and review the full Iraqi Constitution, click HERE

This news is an example of the benefit of our online viral information age. The situation was first called to my attention late yesterday (September 8) by a long-term blogger, Korkie Moore-Bruno, on a think tank list of Obama supporters. Korkie posted an alert from her Facebook friend Jubal Harshaw. Give them credit for the heads-up; all I've done was verify the rumor with the United Nations.

It would seem that U. S. citizens might find out if their Representative and/or Senators have supported or voted to fund the war in Iraq. If so, do they support health care as a civil right for you?

If the answers to those questions are "yes" and "no," respectively, you might consider less hypocritical representation.

Ba-blam! :thumbs:

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Once again, it's the people who already have insurance who don't want national healthcare. Let them lose their job, though, and they'd be the first one asking where their health care is. Me, I've only had health insurance twice in my life. Most of the people I know don't have health insurance. I'd gladly pay more in taxes to have health insurance. I'd be even more glad to if I could stop paying for Iraqi health care at the same time.

From the (admittedly left-wing) Huffington Post (it's true, though):

You'd better sit down, folks.

Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution, drafted by your right-wing Bushies in 2005 and ratified by the Iraqi people, includes state-guaranteed (single payer) healthcare for life for every Iraqi citizen.

Article 31 reads:

"First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The State shall maintain public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and health institutions.

Second: Individuals and entities have the right to build hospitals, clinics,or private health care centers under the supervision of the State, and this shall be regulated by law."

There are other health care guarantees, including special provisions for children, the elderly, and the handicapped elsewhere in the 43-page document.

Under force of arms, President Bush imposed his particular idea of democracy on a people not asking for it - perhaps a noble undertaking in one context and a criminal violation of international law in another. Bush's followers are proud of the Iraqi Constitution, a model for the world, they told us.

So, according to the American political right-wing, government-guaranteed health care is good for Iraqis, but not good for us. Not good for you. They decry even a limited public option for you, but gleefully imposed upon the Iraqis what they label here as "socialism," with much Democratic Party member support.

Indeed, reading the Iraqi Constitution so near to the 8th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is instructive. It is the very definition of American right-wing hypocrisy.

We have (thus far) sacrificed more blood to wrest Iraq from tyranny than we lost on 9/11. In addition, according to the Congressional Research Service, as of May 15, 2009 (Report 7-5700/RL33110) we have spent and/or authorized $864 Billion in military operations on Operation Enduring Freedom, which includes Iraq and Afghanistan. The overwhelming majority of those funds have been for the war in Iraq. Additional secret funding has been authorized for intelligence and special operations.

The total is more than (or, in the worst case, equal to) the funding required to guarantee minimally decent health care here.

In other words, the most senior members of the Republican establishment - and some Democrats like Max Baucus (D-MT) - have gladly spent more taxpayer funds to ensure health care as a Constitutional right in Iraq than they are willing to spend to give you any level of guaranteed coverage.

The source document I used is from the official United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq. If you'd like to download and review the full Iraqi Constitution, click HERE

This news is an example of the benefit of our online viral information age. The situation was first called to my attention late yesterday (September 8) by a long-term blogger, Korkie Moore-Bruno, on a think tank list of Obama supporters. Korkie posted an alert from her Facebook friend Jubal Harshaw. Give them credit for the heads-up; all I've done was verify the rumor with the United Nations.

It would seem that U. S. citizens might find out if their Representative and/or Senators have supported or voted to fund the war in Iraq. If so, do they support health care as a civil right for you?

If the answers to those questions are "yes" and "no," respectively, you might consider less hypocritical representation.

Ba-blam! :thumbs:

Get on over there and get ya some of that first class HC! :rofl: prolly one x-ray machine in all of baghdad!

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."- Ayn Rand

“Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.”

― Andrew Wilkow

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First class all the way Steve! Love the ambulance! :rofl:

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"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."- Ayn Rand

“Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.”

― Andrew Wilkow

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Once again, it's the people who already have insurance who don't want national healthcare. Let them lose their job, though, and they'd be the first one asking where their health care is. Me, I've only had health insurance twice in my life. Most of the people I know don't have health insurance. I'd gladly pay more in taxes to have health insurance. I'd be even more glad to if I could stop paying for Iraqi health care at the same time.

From the (admittedly left-wing) Huffington Post (it's true, though):

You'd better sit down, folks.

Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution, drafted by your right-wing Bushies in 2005 and ratified by the Iraqi people, includes state-guaranteed (single payer) healthcare for life for every Iraqi citizen.

Article 31 reads:

"First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The State shall maintain public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and health institutions.

Second: Individuals and entities have the right to build hospitals, clinics,or private health care centers under the supervision of the State, and this shall be regulated by law."

There are other health care guarantees, including special provisions for children, the elderly, and the handicapped elsewhere in the 43-page document.

Under force of arms, President Bush imposed his particular idea of democracy on a people not asking for it - perhaps a noble undertaking in one context and a criminal violation of international law in another. Bush's followers are proud of the Iraqi Constitution, a model for the world, they told us.

So, according to the American political right-wing, government-guaranteed health care is good for Iraqis, but not good for us. Not good for you. They decry even a limited public option for you, but gleefully imposed upon the Iraqis what they label here as "socialism," with much Democratic Party member support.

Indeed, reading the Iraqi Constitution so near to the 8th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is instructive. It is the very definition of American right-wing hypocrisy.

We have (thus far) sacrificed more blood to wrest Iraq from tyranny than we lost on 9/11. In addition, according to the Congressional Research Service, as of May 15, 2009 (Report 7-5700/RL33110) we have spent and/or authorized $864 Billion in military operations on Operation Enduring Freedom, which includes Iraq and Afghanistan. The overwhelming majority of those funds have been for the war in Iraq. Additional secret funding has been authorized for intelligence and special operations.

The total is more than (or, in the worst case, equal to) the funding required to guarantee minimally decent health care here.

In other words, the most senior members of the Republican establishment - and some Democrats like Max Baucus (D-MT) - have gladly spent more taxpayer funds to ensure health care as a Constitutional right in Iraq than they are willing to spend to give you any level of guaranteed coverage.

The source document I used is from the official United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq. If you'd like to download and review the full Iraqi Constitution, click HERE

This news is an example of the benefit of our online viral information age. The situation was first called to my attention late yesterday (September 8) by a long-term blogger, Korkie Moore-Bruno, on a think tank list of Obama supporters. Korkie posted an alert from her Facebook friend Jubal Harshaw. Give them credit for the heads-up; all I've done was verify the rumor with the United Nations.

It would seem that U. S. citizens might find out if their Representative and/or Senators have supported or voted to fund the war in Iraq. If so, do they support health care as a civil right for you?

If the answers to those questions are "yes" and "no," respectively, you might consider less hypocritical representation.

Ba-blam! :thumbs:

Get on over there and get ya some of that first class HC! :rofl: prolly one x-ray machine in all of baghdad!

That's one more x-ray machine than you'll get to use when your insurance company denies your coverage.

Posted
Once again, it's the people who already have insurance who don't want national healthcare. Let them lose their job, though, and they'd be the first one asking where their health care is. Me, I've only had health insurance twice in my life. Most of the people I know don't have health insurance. I'd gladly pay more in taxes to have health insurance. I'd be even more glad to if I could stop paying for Iraqi health care at the same time.

From the (admittedly left-wing) Huffington Post (it's true, though):

You'd better sit down, folks.

Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution, drafted by your right-wing Bushies in 2005 and ratified by the Iraqi people, includes state-guaranteed (single payer) healthcare for life for every Iraqi citizen.

Article 31 reads:

"First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The State shall maintain public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and health institutions.

Second: Individuals and entities have the right to build hospitals, clinics,or private health care centers under the supervision of the State, and this shall be regulated by law."

There are other health care guarantees, including special provisions for children, the elderly, and the handicapped elsewhere in the 43-page document.

Under force of arms, President Bush imposed his particular idea of democracy on a people not asking for it - perhaps a noble undertaking in one context and a criminal violation of international law in another. Bush's followers are proud of the Iraqi Constitution, a model for the world, they told us.

So, according to the American political right-wing, government-guaranteed health care is good for Iraqis, but not good for us. Not good for you. They decry even a limited public option for you, but gleefully imposed upon the Iraqis what they label here as "socialism," with much Democratic Party member support.

Indeed, reading the Iraqi Constitution so near to the 8th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is instructive. It is the very definition of American right-wing hypocrisy.

We have (thus far) sacrificed more blood to wrest Iraq from tyranny than we lost on 9/11. In addition, according to the Congressional Research Service, as of May 15, 2009 (Report 7-5700/RL33110) we have spent and/or authorized $864 Billion in military operations on Operation Enduring Freedom, which includes Iraq and Afghanistan. The overwhelming majority of those funds have been for the war in Iraq. Additional secret funding has been authorized for intelligence and special operations.

The total is more than (or, in the worst case, equal to) the funding required to guarantee minimally decent health care here.

In other words, the most senior members of the Republican establishment - and some Democrats like Max Baucus (D-MT) - have gladly spent more taxpayer funds to ensure health care as a Constitutional right in Iraq than they are willing to spend to give you any level of guaranteed coverage.

The source document I used is from the official United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq. If you'd like to download and review the full Iraqi Constitution, click HERE

This news is an example of the benefit of our online viral information age. The situation was first called to my attention late yesterday (September 8) by a long-term blogger, Korkie Moore-Bruno, on a think tank list of Obama supporters. Korkie posted an alert from her Facebook friend Jubal Harshaw. Give them credit for the heads-up; all I've done was verify the rumor with the United Nations.

It would seem that U. S. citizens might find out if their Representative and/or Senators have supported or voted to fund the war in Iraq. If so, do they support health care as a civil right for you?

If the answers to those questions are "yes" and "no," respectively, you might consider less hypocritical representation.

Ba-blam! :thumbs:

Get on over there and get ya some of that first class HC! :rofl: prolly one x-ray machine in all of baghdad!

That's one more x-ray machine than you'll get to use when your insurance company denies your coverage.

You really should do something about that paranoia! Typical scare mongering.

"I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine."- Ayn Rand

“Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.”

― Andrew Wilkow

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There have been times I had no insurance and I can guarantee, in those time, the last thing I wanted was to have some Obama care type plan forcing me to pay hundreds a month to pay for his mandatory plan... or else suffer the punishment of penalties and fines.

The ones who will be hurt the most... are the same ones you Big-Gov types, pretend to care about.

During those times when you had no health insurance, I would have imagined that the "last thing" you would have wanted would have been for the taxpayers to pay for your catastrophic illness or injury. Of course, you may have a cool half million (or so) in your pocket to cover such contingencies, and you simply choose not to use it to pay for health insurance premiums.

*chirp*chirp*chirp*

It's those crickets again!

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I guess all of these people who are against federal (socialist) healthcare also never visit libraries or drive on the Interstate system....

Damn Socialists! Everyone knows the government can't possibly run a large venture like healthcare or an Interstate highway system!

#######????????

I'm so glad it was you who posted after me....

Why aren't conservatives throwing a fit about paying for something they never use - libraries? It's a socialist, government-run drain on working people! Taxes pay for libraries, but not everyone uses or needs them. Where's the outrage?

Same for Interstates. Millions of people live in cities and never, ever leave; therefore never using the Interstate (Federal) system that THEIR tax dollars are paying for! They don't need them, so why should they have to pay for them?

Were have you been buddy we b1tch about all taxes, we dont discriminate.

The private sector could build roads cheaper. This part of the gov. is hardly a well oiled machine.

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Once again, it's the people who already have insurance who don't want national healthcare. Let them lose their job, though, and they'd be the first one asking where their health care is. Me, I've only had health insurance twice in my life. Most of the people I know don't have health insurance. I'd gladly pay more in taxes to have health insurance. I'd be even more glad to if I could stop paying for Iraqi health care at the same time.

From the (admittedly left-wing) Huffington Post (it's true, though):

You'd better sit down, folks.

Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution, drafted by your right-wing Bushies in 2005 and ratified by the Iraqi people, includes state-guaranteed (single payer) healthcare for life for every Iraqi citizen.

Article 31 reads:

"First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The State shall maintain public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and health institutions.

Second: Individuals and entities have the right to build hospitals, clinics,or private health care centers under the supervision of the State, and this shall be regulated by law."

There are other health care guarantees, including special provisions for children, the elderly, and the handicapped elsewhere in the 43-page document.

Under force of arms, President Bush imposed his particular idea of democracy on a people not asking for it - perhaps a noble undertaking in one context and a criminal violation of international law in another. Bush's followers are proud of the Iraqi Constitution, a model for the world, they told us.

So, according to the American political right-wing, government-guaranteed health care is good for Iraqis, but not good for us. Not good for you. They decry even a limited public option for you, but gleefully imposed upon the Iraqis what they label here as "socialism," with much Democratic Party member support.

Indeed, reading the Iraqi Constitution so near to the 8th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is instructive. It is the very definition of American right-wing hypocrisy.

We have (thus far) sacrificed more blood to wrest Iraq from tyranny than we lost on 9/11. In addition, according to the Congressional Research Service, as of May 15, 2009 (Report 7-5700/RL33110) we have spent and/or authorized $864 Billion in military operations on Operation Enduring Freedom, which includes Iraq and Afghanistan. The overwhelming majority of those funds have been for the war in Iraq. Additional secret funding has been authorized for intelligence and special operations.

The total is more than (or, in the worst case, equal to) the funding required to guarantee minimally decent health care here.

In other words, the most senior members of the Republican establishment - and some Democrats like Max Baucus (D-MT) - have gladly spent more taxpayer funds to ensure health care as a Constitutional right in Iraq than they are willing to spend to give you any level of guaranteed coverage.

The source document I used is from the official United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq. If you'd like to download and review the full Iraqi Constitution, click HERE

This news is an example of the benefit of our online viral information age. The situation was first called to my attention late yesterday (September 8) by a long-term blogger, Korkie Moore-Bruno, on a think tank list of Obama supporters. Korkie posted an alert from her Facebook friend Jubal Harshaw. Give them credit for the heads-up; all I've done was verify the rumor with the United Nations.

It would seem that U. S. citizens might find out if their Representative and/or Senators have supported or voted to fund the war in Iraq. If so, do they support health care as a civil right for you?

If the answers to those questions are "yes" and "no," respectively, you might consider less hypocritical representation.

Ba-blam! :thumbs:

Get on over there and get ya some of that first class HC! :rofl: prolly one x-ray machine in all of baghdad!

That's one more x-ray machine than you'll get to use when your insurance company denies your coverage.

You really should do something about that paranoia! Typical scare mongering.

Avoidance technique #3c. Nice one!

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Once again, it's the people who already have insurance who don't want national healthcare. Let them lose their job, though, and they'd be the first one asking where their health care is. Me, I've only had health insurance twice in my life. Most of the people I know don't have health insurance. I'd gladly pay more in taxes to have health insurance. I'd be even more glad to if I could stop paying for Iraqi health care at the same time.

From the (admittedly left-wing) Huffington Post (it's true, though):

You'd better sit down, folks.

Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution, drafted by your right-wing Bushies in 2005 and ratified by the Iraqi people, includes state-guaranteed (single payer) healthcare for life for every Iraqi citizen.

Article 31 reads:

"First: Every citizen has the right to health care. The State shall maintain public health and provide the means of prevention and treatment by building different types of hospitals and health institutions.

Second: Individuals and entities have the right to build hospitals, clinics,or private health care centers under the supervision of the State, and this shall be regulated by law."

There are other health care guarantees, including special provisions for children, the elderly, and the handicapped elsewhere in the 43-page document.

Under force of arms, President Bush imposed his particular idea of democracy on a people not asking for it - perhaps a noble undertaking in one context and a criminal violation of international law in another. Bush's followers are proud of the Iraqi Constitution, a model for the world, they told us.

So, according to the American political right-wing, government-guaranteed health care is good for Iraqis, but not good for us. Not good for you. They decry even a limited public option for you, but gleefully imposed upon the Iraqis what they label here as "socialism," with much Democratic Party member support.

Indeed, reading the Iraqi Constitution so near to the 8th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is instructive. It is the very definition of American right-wing hypocrisy.

We have (thus far) sacrificed more blood to wrest Iraq from tyranny than we lost on 9/11. In addition, according to the Congressional Research Service, as of May 15, 2009 (Report 7-5700/RL33110) we have spent and/or authorized $864 Billion in military operations on Operation Enduring Freedom, which includes Iraq and Afghanistan. The overwhelming majority of those funds have been for the war in Iraq. Additional secret funding has been authorized for intelligence and special operations.

The total is more than (or, in the worst case, equal to) the funding required to guarantee minimally decent health care here.

In other words, the most senior members of the Republican establishment - and some Democrats like Max Baucus (D-MT) - have gladly spent more taxpayer funds to ensure health care as a Constitutional right in Iraq than they are willing to spend to give you any level of guaranteed coverage.

The source document I used is from the official United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq. If you'd like to download and review the full Iraqi Constitution, click HERE

This news is an example of the benefit of our online viral information age. The situation was first called to my attention late yesterday (September 8) by a long-term blogger, Korkie Moore-Bruno, on a think tank list of Obama supporters. Korkie posted an alert from her Facebook friend Jubal Harshaw. Give them credit for the heads-up; all I've done was verify the rumor with the United Nations.

It would seem that U. S. citizens might find out if their Representative and/or Senators have supported or voted to fund the war in Iraq. If so, do they support health care as a civil right for you?

If the answers to those questions are "yes" and "no," respectively, you might consider less hypocritical representation.

Ba-blam! :thumbs:

Get on over there and get ya some of that first class HC! :rofl: prolly one x-ray machine in all of baghdad!

That's one more x-ray machine than you'll get to use when your insurance company denies your coverage.

You really should do something about that paranoia! Typical scare mongering.

Fact technique #3c. Nice one!

Fixxored!

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There may be nearly 45 million without insurance. However, the real question is, who are these 45 million. The typical pro-ObamaCare story is to tell some story about some guy who was working hard, lost his job and then the fates conspired against him in a completely unfair way to deny him coverage while his disabled wife died of cancer. Or something like that.

Thing is, seniors are covered, children are covered. People with jobs are covered. Someone explain to me what these 45 million uninsured people look like demographically, instead of anecdotally.

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Marc - put your bottle away. Its not even the end of the day yet.

How can you type with that hand-me down straight jacket? Daddy's boy :wacko:

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