"45 million Uninsured in America"

[rebeccajo 14]

I just heard a recent estimate that we have 4 million uninsured here in Florida alone so yes, I believe it.

You said Fla. right?

Were Illegals included in that?

For the umpteenth time -

IF UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE HEALTHCARE BENEFITS, THAT IS BECAUSE THE LEGISLATORS IN YOUR STATE HAVE NOT PASSED A LAW IN YOUR STATE MANDATING PROOF OF RESIDENCY IN ORDER TO OBTAIN MEDICAID IN YOUR STATE.

SO TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS AND NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

[HAL 9000 96]

Woah!

[_Simpson_ 250]

I just heard a recent estimate that we have 4 million uninsured here in Florida alone so yes, I believe it.

You said Fla. right?

Were Illegals included in that?

For the umpteenth time -

IF UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE HEALTHCARE BENEFITS, THAT IS BECAUSE THE LEGISLATORS IN YOUR STATE HAVE NOT PASSED A LAW IN YOUR STATE MANDATING PROOF OF RESIDENCY IN ORDER TO OBTAIN MEDICAID IN YOUR STATE.

SO TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS AND NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Please spare me, who would set something in motion with so many holes in it(a idiot), your telling me I should support what the federal government is doing because the problem is at the state level. Good grief, a good plan is thoroughly thought out and well prepared, something that would fail at the state level is not a example of this.

[Danno 1,228]

I just heard a recent estimate that we have 4 million uninsured here in Florida alone so yes, I believe it.

You said Fla. right?

Were Illegals included in that?

For the umpteenth time -

IF UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE HEALTHCARE BENEFITS, THAT IS BECAUSE THE LEGISLATORS IN YOUR STATE HAVE NOT PASSED A LAW IN YOUR STATE MANDATING PROOF OF RESIDENCY IN ORDER TO OBTAIN MEDICAID IN YOUR STATE.

SO TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS AND NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

I fail to see how that detail has anything to do with the point you had raised earlier.

-You claim 4 million people are uninsured in Fla.

- I poke holes in this Fuzzy math by trying to suggest Illegals might make up the bulk of those 4 mil. (It is fla)

- you reply (in caps) about Illegals which may qualify for a Gov program.

Let me try again, how many of those 4 mil are even citizens?

How many are able but not willing to by insurance?

How many already qualify for other programs?

[HAL 9000 96]

Where would the bulk of those 4 million estimated illegals in FL come from?

And how many of those likely have private insurance?

Incomplete Dannologic. The pattern continues to worsen for you buddy.

[Otto 83]

How many million(s) does it take?

[Danno 1,228]

How many million(s) does it take?

Thats a good question!@

How many millions have to be against this legislation before those for it...... will drop it?

Millions of people do not want to be forced to pay for insurance their whole life ...if they want it or not.

You call that Freedom?

[doodlebugg 10]

How many million(s) does it take?

Thats a good question!@

How many millions have to be against this legislation before those for it...... will drop it?

Millions of people do not want to be forced to pay for insurance their whole life ...if they want it or not.

You call that Freedom?

Millions of people are paying it now whether they like it or not through the gov't sponsored free care and bad debt funds.

[_Simpson_ 250]

How many million(s) does it take?

Thats a good question!@

How many millions have to be against this legislation before those for it...... will drop it?

Millions of people do not want to be forced to pay for insurance their whole life ...if they want it or not.

You call that Freedom?

Millions of people are paying it now whether they like it or not through the gov't sponsored free care and bad debt funds.

So what add to the problem?

[doodlebugg 10]

How many million(s) does it take?

Thats a good question!@

How many millions have to be against this legislation before those for it...... will drop it?

Millions of people do not want to be forced to pay for insurance their whole life ...if they want it or not.

You call that Freedom?

Millions of people are paying it now whether they like it or not through the gov't sponsored free care and bad debt funds.

So what add to the problem?

Work with me here, if we are going to be paying to insure all of the uninsured, we won't therefore have to pay for the uncompensated care pool, since they will now be compensated. It's basically the same either way give or take a few billion dollars.

[_Simpson_ 250]

How many million(s) does it take?

Thats a good question!@

How many millions have to be against this legislation before those for it...... will drop it?

Millions of people do not want to be forced to pay for insurance their whole life ...if they want it or not.

You call that Freedom?

Millions of people are paying it now whether they like it or not through the gov't sponsored free care and bad debt funds.

So what add to the problem?

Work with me here, if we are going to be paying to insure all of the uninsured, we won't therefore have to pay for the uncompensated care pool, since they will now be compensated. It's basically the same either way give or take a few billion dollars.

Dont let Obama fool you, we will pay a significant amount more if he gets his way.

[rebeccajo 14]

I just heard a recent estimate that we have 4 million uninsured here in Florida alone so yes, I believe it.

You said Fla. right?

Were Illegals included in that?

For the umpteenth time -

IF UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE HEALTHCARE BENEFITS, THAT IS BECAUSE THE LEGISLATORS IN YOUR STATE HAVE NOT PASSED A LAW IN YOUR STATE MANDATING PROOF OF RESIDENCY IN ORDER TO OBTAIN MEDICAID IN YOUR STATE.

SO TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR STATE LEGISLATORS AND NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

I fail to see how that detail has anything to do with the point you had raised earlier.

-You claim 4 million people are uninsured in Fla.

- I poke holes in this Fuzzy math by trying to suggest Illegals might make up the bulk of those 4 mil. (It is fla)

- you reply (in caps) about Illegals which may qualify for a Gov program.

Let me try again, how many of those 4 mil are even citizens?

How many are able but not willing to by insurance?

How many already qualify for other programs?

I didn't say squat to you about how many people are uninsured in Florida.

All I said is that it is illogical to bellyache about 'illegals' receiving Medicaid insofar as a Federal health plan is concerned.

Medicaid is regulated by state governments. States rights and all that, Danno. If there are illegals in your state drawing Medicaid, it isn't anybody's fault on Capitol Hill.

You need to know who the players are if you want to win the game.

Please spare me, who would set something in motion with so many holes in it(a idiot), your telling me I should support what the federal government is doing because the problem is at the state level. Good grief, a good plan is thoroughly thought out and well prepared, something that would fail at the state level is not a example of this.

I hate to break it to you, but - yes.

Edited September 18, 2009 by rebeccajo

[doodlebugg 10]

How many million(s) does it take?

Thats a good question!@

How many millions have to be against this legislation before those for it...... will drop it?

Millions of people do not want to be forced to pay for insurance their whole life ...if they want it or not.

You call that Freedom?

Millions of people are paying it now whether they like it or not through the gov't sponsored free care and bad debt funds.

So what add to the problem?

Work with me here, if we are going to be paying to insure all of the uninsured, we won't therefore have to pay for the uncompensated care pool, since they will now be compensated. It's basically the same either way give or take a few billion dollars.

Dont let Obama fool you, we will pay a significant amount more if he gets his way.

I'm not talking about Obama. This is just basic logic.

[sly_wolf 199]

How many million(s) does it take?

Thats a good question!@

How many millions have to be against this legislation before those for it...... will drop it?

Millions of people do not want to be forced to pay for insurance their whole life ...if they want it or not.

You call that Freedom?

Millions of people are paying it now whether they like it or not through the gov't sponsored free care and bad debt funds.

So what add to the problem?

Work with me here, if we are going to be paying to insure all of the uninsured, we won't therefore have to pay for the uncompensated care pool, since they will now be compensated. It's basically the same either way give or take a few billion dollars.

Dont let Obama fool you, we will pay a significant amount more if he gets his way.

Dont blame him. We will be paying more for insurance as it is for something georgy porgy put into law ... something our family does not even need.

[Otto 83]

How many million(s) does it take?

Thats a good question!@

How many millions have to be against this legislation before those for it...... will drop it?

Millions of people do not want to be forced to pay for insurance their whole life ...if they want it or not.

You call that Freedom?

In my country, we take care of our own (or we should) - and just because a few misguided people and a bunch of loud mouths object, should not deter us (as a nation).