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I am very interested in knowing how many of you have made a full effort in learning your SO's language? I am not just talking about how to say hello and goodbye, I am talking about being able to have a full conversation in your SO's language.

It has been something that I really want to do, and have bought a translation book and CD, but neither have been much help. My wife and I both work full time jobs and we haven't given this enough attention. We are setting aside time for her to teach me.

Has anyone had success in learing and if so what were your sources that taught you, if you don't mind sharing?

Thanks,

Mike

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03-10-06 - Sent I-129F to USCIS

03-15-06 - NOA1

03-25-06 - NOA2 Approval

08-28-06 - Interview!!!

11-22-06 - Got the Visa!!!

AOS Timeline:

02-08-07 - I-485 sent

02-14-07 - NOA1 (Sent to Missouri)

03-06-07 - Biometrics Appointment

03-07-07 - Transferred to CSC

05-03-07 - Card Production Ordered Email

05-10-07 - Green Card In Hand

Removal of Conditions Timeline:

03-05-09 - I-751 sent

03-09-09 - NOA1 (1 yr Extension)

04-08-09 - Biometrics

07-09-09 - Card Production Ordered Email

07-17-09 - Green Card In Hand

I-130 Filing for Step-Son

11-30-09 - Received at USCIS

12-04-09 - NOA1

03-01-10 - NOA2

03-05-10 - NVC Case # Assigned

03-09-10 - NVC Mailed DS-3032 and AOS Bill

03-12-10 - Emailed DS-3032 to NVC

03-13-10 - Received Email from NVC stating they received DS-3032 (Also received AOS Fee Bill and DS-3032 in the mail)

03-14-10 - Paid Affidavit of Support Fee and IV Bill online

03-16-10 - NVC Website updated to PAID for both fee's

03-17-10 - Petitioner and Agent received emails to further proceed with case

08-05-10 - NVC Case Completed

10-27-10 - Interview PASSED

10-28-10 - Picked up Visa

Mike (United States) & Huong (Vietnam)

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I can speak a few words of her language but do try to learn a word now and again. She laughs a lot when I try to learn a new word so she has fun. Luckily I don't have to learn her language.

I have been learing it for almost a year now.. I still have problems pronouncing some words right.. It is much more simple than english in so many ways...but I have so much more to learn.... having a friend that tutors me really helps.. he compares the language to learning how to play music.. I must agree its like when I learned to play the guitar. I have been thinking about getting rosetta stone, but it isnt cheap...

I must say that one of the hurdles I have found is the same thing that they have when they learn english... slang and accents... Yes there are areas of VN in which words mean different things and are said very different. When I first started learning the language, a friend of mine's wife worked at a nail salon and I would go hang out there after the gym a few days a week as they were always slow that time of day. I remember them arguing about how I should pronounce a word that everyone of them said a little different than the other... much like how boston, alabama, california accents would be different for someone with ESL.

"Every one of us bears within himself the possibilty of all passions, all destinies of life in all its forms. Nothing human is foreign to us" - Edward G. Robinson.

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Hey Mike, good to see you online!

I've been learning via Rosetta Stone and several flash cards programs. I've got a long ways to go yet, but can speak conversationally to my wifes family and coworkers with not much problem. In fact, I really enjoy the reactions I get from trying and find that helps to encourage me further. I'd say that once I understood the basic building blocks of how the VNese structure sentences, it was only a matter of increasing my vocabulary. Any way you do it, good luck, its well worth it (and the best reason of all...my wife gets turned on by listening to me speak her language!)!!

:yes:

Our K1 Timeline

03.11 - 4.10.2005 - Met on vacation in Vietnam

10.25 - 11.19.2005 - Returned to Vietnam & got engaged 11.1.05

12.29.2005 - I-129F Sent

01.04.2006 - I-129F NOA1/Receipt and Case Number

03.23.2006 - NOA2

04.05.2006 - Rec'd @ NVC

04.07.2006 - Left for HCMC

04.08.2006 - e-file in HCMC

05.10.2006 - HCMC sends out packet 3

06.02.2006 - Rec'd packet 3

06.05.2006 - sent forms back to HCMC

07.17.2006 - called and got Interview date

07.20.2006 - Rec'd packet 4

08.10.2006 - ***INTERVIEW*** - Blue slip

08.11.2006 - Went to embassy with add'l evidence - Green Slip

03.23.2007 - both of us interviewed and ....PASSED

03.24.2007 - Picked up VISA!!!!!

04.11.2007 - Got Married!

07.18.2007 - Mailed AOS paperwork

08.28.2007 - RFE

09.18.2007 - Mailed back add'l paperwork

10.12.2007 - EAD card issued

11.14.2007 - notified by phone of Interview in 2 days!

11.16.2007 - INTERVIEW (RFE given for add'l evidences..again!)

12.06.2007 - Dropped off evidences at USCIS office

12.18.2007 - I485 Card Production Ordered

12.29.2007 - Card Rec'd!!!

11.19.2009 - I-751 filed for lifting conditions

11.20.2009 - Issued NOA

01.22.2010 - photo and fingerprints

02.03.2010 - lifting conditions APPROVED!!

02.09.2010 - card rec'd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

??????????? - All of our lives together to figure out the rest ;)

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Hey Mike, good to see you online!

I've been learning via Rosetta Stone and several flash cards programs. I've got a long ways to go yet, but can speak conversationally to my wifes family and coworkers with not much problem. In fact, I really enjoy the reactions I get from trying and find that helps to encourage me further. I'd say that once I understood the basic building blocks of how the VNese structure sentences, it was only a matter of increasing my vocabulary. Any way you do it, good luck, its well worth it (and the best reason of all...my wife gets turned on by listening to me speak her language!)!!

:yes:

Was RS worth the money?

"Every one of us bears within himself the possibilty of all passions, all destinies of life in all its forms. Nothing human is foreign to us" - Edward G. Robinson.

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Hey Mike, good to see you online!

I've been learning via Rosetta Stone and several flash cards programs. I've got a long ways to go yet, but can speak conversationally to my wifes family and coworkers with not much problem. In fact, I really enjoy the reactions I get from trying and find that helps to encourage me further. I'd say that once I understood the basic building blocks of how the VNese structure sentences, it was only a matter of increasing my vocabulary. Any way you do it, good luck, its well worth it (and the best reason of all...my wife gets turned on by listening to me speak her language!)!!

:yes:

Was RS worth the money?

Absolutely! :thumbs::thumbs: And it works both ways :D

Our K1 Timeline

03.11 - 4.10.2005 - Met on vacation in Vietnam

10.25 - 11.19.2005 - Returned to Vietnam & got engaged 11.1.05

12.29.2005 - I-129F Sent

01.04.2006 - I-129F NOA1/Receipt and Case Number

03.23.2006 - NOA2

04.05.2006 - Rec'd @ NVC

04.07.2006 - Left for HCMC

04.08.2006 - e-file in HCMC

05.10.2006 - HCMC sends out packet 3

06.02.2006 - Rec'd packet 3

06.05.2006 - sent forms back to HCMC

07.17.2006 - called and got Interview date

07.20.2006 - Rec'd packet 4

08.10.2006 - ***INTERVIEW*** - Blue slip

08.11.2006 - Went to embassy with add'l evidence - Green Slip

03.23.2007 - both of us interviewed and ....PASSED

03.24.2007 - Picked up VISA!!!!!

04.11.2007 - Got Married!

07.18.2007 - Mailed AOS paperwork

08.28.2007 - RFE

09.18.2007 - Mailed back add'l paperwork

10.12.2007 - EAD card issued

11.14.2007 - notified by phone of Interview in 2 days!

11.16.2007 - INTERVIEW (RFE given for add'l evidences..again!)

12.06.2007 - Dropped off evidences at USCIS office

12.18.2007 - I485 Card Production Ordered

12.29.2007 - Card Rec'd!!!

11.19.2009 - I-751 filed for lifting conditions

11.20.2009 - Issued NOA

01.22.2010 - photo and fingerprints

02.03.2010 - lifting conditions APPROVED!!

02.09.2010 - card rec'd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

??????????? - All of our lives together to figure out the rest ;)

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Hey Mike, good to see you online!

I've been learning via Rosetta Stone and several flash cards programs. I've got a long ways to go yet, but can speak conversationally to my wifes family and coworkers with not much problem. In fact, I really enjoy the reactions I get from trying and find that helps to encourage me further. I'd say that once I understood the basic building blocks of how the VNese structure sentences, it was only a matter of increasing my vocabulary. Any way you do it, good luck, its well worth it (and the best reason of all...my wife gets turned on by listening to me speak her language!)!!

:yes:

Was RS worth the money?

Absolutely! :thumbs::thumbs: And it works both ways :D

A friend of mine said they have most of the RS disks a our local library, I hope they have Viet...... Mike that may be something to check into...

"Every one of us bears within himself the possibilty of all passions, all destinies of life in all its forms. Nothing human is foreign to us" - Edward G. Robinson.

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Hey Mike, good to see you online!

I've been learning via Rosetta Stone and several flash cards programs. I've got a long ways to go yet, but can speak conversationally to my wifes family and coworkers with not much problem. In fact, I really enjoy the reactions I get from trying and find that helps to encourage me further. I'd say that once I understood the basic building blocks of how the VNese structure sentences, it was only a matter of increasing my vocabulary. Any way you do it, good luck, its well worth it (and the best reason of all...my wife gets turned on by listening to me speak her language!)!!

:yes:

Was RS worth the money?

There are other ways to get it for free. I got the Tagalog for free online.

My Fiance: GuardianAngel

K-1 Visa Timeline:

Service Center: California Service Center

Consulate: Manilla, Philipines

I-129F Sent: July 23, 2009

Check Cashed: July 29, 2009

NOA1: July 28, 2009

NOA2: October 21, 2009

Left NVC: October 28, 2009

Medical Passed: December 15/16, 2009

Interview Passed: January 19th, 2010

Air21 Confirmation: January 25, 2010

Visa received: January 26, 2010

CFO Completed: January 27th, 2010

Flight to US: Febuary 3rd, 2010

MARRIED!: March 20th, 2010

AOS Timeline:

AOS, EAD, AP Filed: April 29, 2010

AOS, EAD, AP NOA1: May 6th, 2010

EAD, AP Biometrics: May 25th, 2010

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I checked into Rosetta Stone also, and thought it was expensive. When I mentioned how much it was, we both felt it was too much when my wife can teach me for free. There are a few reasons I want to learn the language. First it would bring me and my wife closer, it would allow me to be closer to my in laws, and I am very involved in the Vietnamese community in our area.

I am glad that I am not the only one wanting to learn the language.

I-129F Timeline:

03-10-06 - Sent I-129F to USCIS

03-15-06 - NOA1

03-25-06 - NOA2 Approval

08-28-06 - Interview!!!

11-22-06 - Got the Visa!!!

AOS Timeline:

02-08-07 - I-485 sent

02-14-07 - NOA1 (Sent to Missouri)

03-06-07 - Biometrics Appointment

03-07-07 - Transferred to CSC

05-03-07 - Card Production Ordered Email

05-10-07 - Green Card In Hand

Removal of Conditions Timeline:

03-05-09 - I-751 sent

03-09-09 - NOA1 (1 yr Extension)

04-08-09 - Biometrics

07-09-09 - Card Production Ordered Email

07-17-09 - Green Card In Hand

I-130 Filing for Step-Son

11-30-09 - Received at USCIS

12-04-09 - NOA1

03-01-10 - NOA2

03-05-10 - NVC Case # Assigned

03-09-10 - NVC Mailed DS-3032 and AOS Bill

03-12-10 - Emailed DS-3032 to NVC

03-13-10 - Received Email from NVC stating they received DS-3032 (Also received AOS Fee Bill and DS-3032 in the mail)

03-14-10 - Paid Affidavit of Support Fee and IV Bill online

03-16-10 - NVC Website updated to PAID for both fee's

03-17-10 - Petitioner and Agent received emails to further proceed with case

08-05-10 - NVC Case Completed

10-27-10 - Interview PASSED

10-28-10 - Picked up Visa

Mike (United States) & Huong (Vietnam)

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I tried to use RS and it worked for the most part. the only problem is my fiancee is from the South, Mekong delta area. down there they only use 4 tones, but in the north they use 6 tones, so when i would say a word to her she was a little confused then she explained this to me and well we are working on it. I did give her english RS and she is using it to some degree. the best thing for me was to be there where you are forced to learn and learn fast. My fiance knows a lot of English, but speaking and understand is hard. As for me, I can speak a little. for the most part I can try to say what i want. anh muon di va anh muon ngu. anh khong hieu. haha i remember so many times trying to talk viet/english and my future brother in law would listen to me and then just say khong hieu, with the biggest smile on his face. boy do i miss them all...

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I practiced a lot of words and phrases I learned using Byki, Pimsleur (which SUX!), and various sound clips I found on the internet. I thought I was doing good, but nobody could understand me. When I started practicing using headphones and mic it was a little easier for me to hear what I was doing wrong, but people still have a really hard time understanding me, and I thought I was saying everything correctly. I didn't really hear how far off I was until I tried recording myself. :blush:

I always have a notebook with me, so I tried writing the words when people couldn't understand me speaking them, but I found it very difficult to remember the diacritical marks. I finally started writing the correct words and phrases in my notebook so I could just look them up and point to them. I also keep a pocket English/Viet dictionary with me. When I've got internet access, I use google to translate, but you have to double check by translating back into English to make sure the translation made sense.

This is going to take a lot of time, effort, and experience...

12/15/2009 - K1 Visa Interview - APPROVED!

12/29/2009 - Married in Oakland, CA!

08/18/2010 - AOS Interview - APPROVED!

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I can say my Tieng Viet sucks. I don't get to practice much, only on the phone and its hard to understand sometimes.

I have been taking a Tieng Viet class at a Vietnamese temple for the past 2 years every Sunday. They have free lessons. It is mostly kids who were born in the US whose parents are from Vietnam, but they have 2 adult classes.

The first year we went strictly by the text book (Spoken Vietnamese for Beginners. Long Nguyen Marybeth Clark Bich Thuan Nguyen ISBN# 978-1-877979-45-3) It was very fast and we mostly learn vocab. No sentence structure or emphasis on sounds and tones.

Last year we got a new teacher, who was much better. We went over sounds and tones every class and the learning structure was better.

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I-130 Sent : 2006-08-30

I-130 NOA1 : 2006-09-12

I-130 Approved : 2007-01-17

NVC Received : 2007-02-05

Consulate Received : 2007-06-09

Interview Date : 2007-08-16 Case sent back to USCIS

NOA case received by CSC: 2007-12-19

Receive NOIR: 2009-05-04

Sent Rebuttal: 2009-05-19

NOA rebuttal entered: 2009-06-05

Case sent back to NVC for processing: 2009-08-27

Consulate sends DS-230: 2009-11-23

Interview: 2010-02-05 result Green sheet for updated I864 and photos submit 2010-03-05

APPROVED visa pick up 2010-03-12

POE: 2010-04-20 =)

GC received: 2010-05-05

Processing

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I used RS and like Josephs said it is using the Northern dialect so Linh looked at me all stupid-like. My complaint with RS is that you don't get the translation with it. You are basically parroting sentences associated to a picture.

She also refused to teach me while I came to visit her because "Then all pretty ladies be talking to you!" She is pretty territorial. Her daughter My is teaching me some.

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I used RS and like Josephs said it is using the Northern dialect so Linh looked at me all stupid-like. My complaint with RS is that you don't get the translation with it. You are basically parroting sentences associated to a picture.

She also refused to teach me while I came to visit her because "Then all pretty ladies be talking to you!" She is pretty territorial. Her daughter My is teaching me some.

Pretty much all the courses use the northern dialect. It's the "official" Vietnamese dialect. If spoken well, a southerner will be able to understand you without much difficulty, sort of like a New Yorker can understand someone from Alabama. If not spoken well, it's more like a Frenchman trying to imitate a person from Alabama - incomprehensible!

Phuong is from Hue, and they use a mixture of the northern and southern dialects. They do use the 7 tones, but they pronounce letters like "d" as they are pronounced in the south ("y" sound, rather than "z" sound). Same with words like "giờ". In the north, it sounds similar to "zo". In the south, it's closer to "yer". That one really threw me the first time I tried to tell someone what time it was. :blush:

I didn't know RS used the same method as Pimsleur. In that case, I'd say RS also sucks. What good is it to learn how to parrot sounds if you don't know precisely the words you are learning to speak? Sure, you'll be able to repeat a sentence that they will understand, but you won't be able to compose your own sentences, nor understand anything they say in response unless it's identical to a phrase you've already learned. I gave up on Pimsleur because it doesn't come with a transcript and translation of the Vietnamese words and phrases, and there's almost no focus on composition. On the other hand, if you just want to know how to tell the taxi driver to take you to the proper hotel, it's fine.

12/15/2009 - K1 Visa Interview - APPROVED!

12/29/2009 - Married in Oakland, CA!

08/18/2010 - AOS Interview - APPROVED!

05/01/2013 - Removal of Conditions - APPROVED!

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