Ten year Green Card trouble: Our evidence is "insufficient."

[Rings 10]

I know times are rough and things are not going as smooth as you would like them to, but copy/paste that affidavit I gave you and make 15 copies and start handing them out. Write your story for the USCIS as well and get the receipt book and get that "property manager" to sign something stating that you live there together and that you pay her rent in cash and have done so for however long.

Look..these solutions are bandaids... they are not perfect, but they are something. Go get library cards in both your names, get the blockbuster card in both names, get a king soopers card in both names (all this stuff is normally at no cost to you) Put in your change of address with the USCIS because they will send you a confirmation (looks like a petition approval) in the mail and you can use that petition to prove you live there because you got it in the mail (save the envelope and everything. Have all your family write you letters and mail them to the current address you both live at listing both your names and save those envelopes as well.

[Rings 10]

If you can get the affidavits notarized it looks better, more legal and I would recomend it in your case. They do not require that you do this, but if you already lack evidence you need then going the extra mile for an offical legal document will look good on your part.

[Rings 10]

If you can get the affidavits notarized it looks better, more legal and I would recomend it in your case. They do not require that you do this, but if you already lack evidence you need then going the extra mile for an offical legal document will look good on your part.

[Rings 10]

If you can get the affidavits notarized it looks better, more legal and I would recomend it in your case. They do not require that you do this, but if you already lack evidence you need then going the extra mile for an offical legal document will look good on your part.

[3600rs 24]

OK, first of all, I'm not making excuses. If something is suggested that won't work, I am going to point that out so it's no longer a talking point and we can look at something else. That's natural. And unfortunately, our case is complicated because of our current living situation.

I sent a ton of evidence earlier this year. A huge amount and never ever thought this would happen. But the nature of the letter they sent points to "gaps" and the only gap would be times we have not had a lease, like in NC. We also have no real savings, because we just don't! Life has not been easy for us. We've had some back luck.

We could not possibly rent another apartment. We have no money to put down first, last month rent and security AND we would lose the security on where we are now if we leave before March. That's a grand, just gone. What little money we have we are putting away so we can go to Vietnam in January and attend her brother's wedding. If she doesn't go, her parents will disown her. My being out of work has meant we are in dire straights. You know how bad this economy is. It's ruined us. Thank heavens Anh has a good job that is very solid.

We had no prior red flags. Nothing. Before this fiasco everything was smooth as silk. So smooth that some here were in shock at how easy it was for us. The timing of all of this is very bad. If somehow this goes very wrong, we could end up in a spot where if Anh leaves to see her brother get married, she'll not be allowed back into the country. The fact that this is happening has shattered any love Anh had for America. She thinks her home communist government is fairer and better right now and I don't blame her.

As for more evidence...

Now we did try a Gym out for a few weeks and have that application. But we canceled the membership because it was too expensive. This was in August. We've got all the paperwork, so that is something involving our current address. It's all we've got right now, other than the next bank statement that will come and the next Verizon bill.

We'll have to go to Blockbuster and sign up and get cards with our address. Silly, but it's something, as you say.

What's funny is we sent a picture of Anh with Mayor Bloomberg amongst the evidence. She met him at a function where she was there as part of a Vietnamese cultural dance troop. How many cheaters would go and meet the mayor? Unreal. Maybe I can have all the members of the dance troop sign an affidavit on our behalf? We hang out with those gals all the time.

The receipt book for our rent payment is a good idea. I'll do that today and have Anna sign back dated receipts for us.

Do not worry and take it easy. Resubmit all the documents you already send, add some additional if you have. Write an explanation if you cant furnish them with certain specific documents.

Take note --- There are only 2 outcomes after an RFE; your approved or your called for an interview! At most joint interviews the IO sees your heavy file, looks at both of you as a couple, the next thing hes thinking ####### .....followed by an approval. I have not seen a joint application denied!

So, do not fret!

Edited September 15, 2009 by 3600rs

[damulag 26]

My wife does not have a drivers liscence, just a temperary permit even expired at the time, and she is listed on my insurance statement and card.

[3600rs 24]

Matt:

I looked at your attached RFE. This is something I call a mundane, stereotyped standard format letter when stuff goes missing. So, I am not worried for you. About your spouse traveling; she is a PR legally till conditions are removed, so traveling is no problem.

[Matt_Stevens 5]

Some good ideas here. We'll get a Duane Reade card today. Duane Reade is a mini-supermarket located all over Manhattan.

Notarizing the affidavits is a pain, but considering the situation, I am sure our friends will not mind.

We're working on the landlord situation. The person we are renting from seems nervous about the situation and has not said yes to a letter. Not sure why. My wife will talk to her tonight. We won't be able to get anything from the management company. They are not good people. Not at all. They won't fix the toilet, the sink, busted fans, etc. They suck. We are on our own here. AT least htey fix the elevator when it breaks down every few weeks.

Damulag, each state is different in regards to insurance. And in this case, my insurance is in NC. Even if I could add her (and I can't) that would work against us because we live in NY.

Edited September 15, 2009 by Matt_Stevens

[Rings 10]

It's strange that she is getting all weird about writing you a letter. From this point forward you should only write checks for your rent using your checkbook and writing rent on each check to protect you. I hope this works out for you guys *hugs*

[3600rs 24]

Some good ideas here. We'll get a Duane Reade card today. Duane Reade is a mini-supermarket located all over Manhattan.

Notarizing the affidavits is a pain, but considering the situation, I am sure our friends will not mind.

We're working on the landlord situation. The person we are renting from seems nervous about the situation and has not said yes to a letter. Not sure why. My wife will talk to her tonight. We won't be able to get anything from the management company. They are not good people. Not at all. They won't fix the toilet, the sink, busted fans, etc. They suck. We are on our own here. AT least htey fix the elevator when it breaks down every few weeks.

Damulag, each state is different in regards to insurance. And in this case, my insurance is in NC. Even if I could add her (and I can't) that would work against us because we live in NY.

Notarizing affidavits is not a pain when you have your friendly bank officer who usually does it for free.

[Rings 10]

I have a notary at my work and got 7 of them signed yesterday (in one day within like 2 hours) and you can do it at the post office or at the bank. Most people have a notary at their work too they just have to ask around. I have 7 of these suckers already and by the time I file I should have 20-30 of them. To me it means everything. I am going to the bank today to get my letter from them on bonded paper as well. Trying to gather stuff early is my plan and a lot of this stuff is pretty easy to get.

[DGAB2008 3]

Go to Office Depot and purchase a pack of lease agreement forms. Take one of the forms to the person you're subletting from and have them fill out the terms of your agreement. You and your wife should sign it and get it notarized. This serves as a valid lease agreement.

Dionne

OK, this is just nuts. Up to this point everything had been so easy, so I guess it was only a matter of time before we were hit with the whip.

We filed the I751 earlier this year with all the evidence we could give them. But we just received a form stating our evidence was insufficient and that we have to send more to be processed.

What more could we send? We have sent them every possible piece of evidence asked for that we had.

They list a number of items they want, most of which we have already sent them.

Joint tax returns, Leases for our apartments in both our names, joint health insurance, joint renters insurance, joint bank accounts, joint utilities, bla bla blah.

But things they list they want we do not have.

We do not own a home.

We do not jointly own a car because Anh doesn't drive. She has no license. So how can I list her on my car insurance?

We have no kids so how can we provide birth certificates for kids that do not exist?

We do not have any loans together.

They ask for copies of our lease(s) but we provided them already!

They want affidavits written by thirds parties, but we already gave them three! All three were very clearly written and properly done.

Since late winter this year things for us have been very bad. I lost my job and we had to move from our lovely apartment to a craphole in the wall we sublet, so we have no actual lease or utilities in our own name. No renters insurance either. This all happened just prior to filing, so at the time was not an issue.

But what to do now? Honestly, there is nothing else whatsoever we can provide to them. We have already provided every piece of evidence we have. #######?!

We had zero trouble with the interview process in Saigon and you all know how crazy they are. My wife spent a lot of time in Europe and Japan, so she was well traveled and an educated girl. Since coming here she has done very well and has a pretty darned good job in NYC, which she loves. But since late winter we have been subletting and have nothing in our name. No lease, no utilities at all. Yes, we have our bank account and a savings account and our health insurance.

What should we do? Our marriage is not bull----. I can't begin to describe how angry I am at this moment.

[mozplay 29]

We're working on the landlord situation. The person we are renting from seems nervous about the situation and has not said yes to a letter. Not sure why. My wife will talk to her tonight.

She's probably weird about it because 1. she's probably not supposed to be subletting and 2. she doesn't declare the rent as income. You may need to assure her that providing an affidavit to the effect that you two live together and sublet from her won't cause any undue hardship to her. But I agree... definitely pay her with cheques from now on. When is your RFE due back? Will October's rent be cleared by the time you have to send it off?

[rika60607 215]

She should be listed as excluded driver, no?

(since she lives in the same residence as you)

You cannot list a person who does not drive and has no drivers license on an insurance policy. Anh has never had a license here or in Vietnam. Never. Our insurance is via The Hartford and I worked for them for years and know the rules.

[Matt_Stevens 5]

RFE is due the 25th of October. I think we'll be able to convince Ana to sign an affidavit. My wife just called me and said they spoke on the phone and that iot will probably be fine. She's just nervous.