USA is #37 and Proud of it!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Shh 32 is a long ways away from number 1, shouldn't you be licking your own wounds and figuring out a solution so you can brag about how great the health care is in Australia.

Maybe the don't need it. After all, they do have one of the longest life spans in the world. Yes beating the French who are number one. Ever thought of that.

So does that mean you dont agree with the way WHO ranks the countries?

WHO is measuring quality of health care amongst other things. Naturally, you can have a basic sedan equivalent quality and then have a quality all the way to a 750 LI BMW equivalent. Clearly France invests a lot in the quality of their health care. However, quality in health care alone does not equate to a higher standard of living or a better quality of life.

I read up on how WHO gets there numbers and I got to tell you its not a very accurate way to determine these things IMO. I know many will hold it up as gold because of the health care debate, there loving this, does that mean I think were number 1 or that our health care is one of the best well no thats not what Im saying, sure theres alot of room for improvement but dam what about what we brought to the medical community. Something not considered in WHO.

You know, I don't really care whether we are 37, 25 or 10 on that list. We should be 1 based on one simple fact - we pay the most for health care. When you pay the price of a Mercedes - a Bentley, really - and you end up in a Chevy, you just know that you've been stiffed. That's precisely what happens in the health care field here - we pay by far the most per capita and measured on GDP for health care and receive far less than the most in return. I know that I'm being stiffed by the health care industry in this country and I just don't like it.

Well the list was the focal point considering the Thread. So in this situation I think it does matter 37,25 or 10. Im all for improving our health care but how we go about it well....

Well, doing nothing or - better yet - officially posting a goal of tanking any reform measure whatsoever for no other reason than to make health care reform Obama's Waterloo is obviously going to do very little in terms of improving the health care system. That, however, is all the GOP is proposing.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Move to the other top 36 countries then!

How about we move the country up and you go to whatever country takes #37 since you like that rnk so much? I, for one, am tired of paying for a Mercedes while getting a fcuking Yugo.

Cha-ching.

exactly. if you want a mercedes, be prepared to pay for a mercedes.

We're doing that already. So either deliver that damn Mercedes already or keep delivering that Yugo and charge me for a Yugo. Better yet, find something reasonable in the middle like a Volkswagen - at the customary price of a Volkswagen.

So you're saying the actual care isn't good? Thats the first i've heard of that.

You need to get more often.

[rebeccajo 14]

Move to the other top 36 countries then!

How about we move the country up and you go to whatever country takes #37 since you like that rnk so much? I, for one, am tired of paying for a Mercedes while getting a fcuking Yugo.

Cha-ching.

exactly. if you want a mercedes, be prepared to pay for a mercedes.

We're doing that already. So either deliver that damn Mercedes already or keep delivering that Yugo and charge me for a Yugo. Better yet, find something reasonable in the middle like a Volkswagen - at the customary price of a Volkswagen.

So you're saying the actual care isn't good? Thats the first i've heard of that.

Joseph - Are you moving to the Philippines?

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Move to the other top 36 countries then!

How about we move the country up and you go to whatever country takes #37 since you like that rnk so much? I, for one, am tired of paying for a Mercedes while getting a fcuking Yugo.

Cha-ching.

exactly. if you want a mercedes, be prepared to pay for a mercedes.

We're doing that already. So either deliver that damn Mercedes already or keep delivering that Yugo and charge me for a Yugo. Better yet, find something reasonable in the middle like a Volkswagen - at the customary price of a Volkswagen.

So you're saying the actual care isn't good? Thats the first i've heard of that.

Joseph - Are you moving to the Philippines?

Maybe, later on down the line. Not sure just yet.

I'm not the one dis-satisfied and complaining about everywhere I go, you guys are.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Move to the other top 36 countries then!

How about we move the country up and you go to whatever country takes #37 since you like that rnk so much? I, for one, am tired of paying for a Mercedes while getting a fcuking Yugo.

Cha-ching.

exactly. if you want a mercedes, be prepared to pay for a mercedes.

We're doing that already. So either deliver that damn Mercedes already or keep delivering that Yugo and charge me for a Yugo. Better yet, find something reasonable in the middle like a Volkswagen - at the customary price of a Volkswagen.

So you're saying the actual care isn't good? Thats the first i've heard of that.

If you're barred from getting access to it, then the quality of the care is surely irrelevant.

[rebeccajo 14]

Maybe, later on down the line. Not sure just yet.

I'm not the one dis-satisfied and complaining about everywhere I go, you guys are.

I'm not complaining about 'everywhere I go'. I don't think most others here are either. Even if that were happening, that's irrelevant to the FACT in the original post.

The US is ranked 37th in the world overall in satisfaction and quality of health care. Yet we pay more than any other nation on earth.

What MIGHT be a relevant point could be this - if EVERYONE had access to the care - would the satisfaction go up? And before you jump on the current bandwagon that adding 46 million people to the system would surely break its back, keep in mind that the health and well-being of a society adds to its productivity.

Edited September 16, 2009 by rebeccajo

[HAL 9000 96]

Ooohhh the sweet irony.

[SpiritAlight 1]

1. That you think i was being sarcastic, when I am deadly and possibly naively serious.

2. I am probably older than you. Interesting how people guess at such things.

Yes I can guarantee you are older than me, I was being sarcastic. I am 34.

The good things are always the good things ever where at every time:

we always have choices.

We can choose to continue this train wreck, or we can stop!

Stop and take stock of what there actually is and what we can do.

Too much smoke and mirrors (thanks Wall Street) and not enough clarity and care for others and Mother Earth.

Still cant find nothing good to say about the USA.

Wow.