ACORN BUSTED again!

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And who was a lawyer at Acorn? Mr Hope and Change Himself. No wonder he lies so well. He's had experience in something at least.

Cha-ching! We have a winner! This is EXACTLY why the Right Wingers are going after ACORN. Discredit ACORN, you can add pull Obama down a few notches and watch Health Care Reform fail. Brilliant or desperate? We report...you decide.

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And who was a lawyer at Acorn? Mr Hope and Change Himself. No wonder he lies so well. He's had experience in something at least.

Cha-ching! We have a winner! This is EXACTLY why the Right Wingers are going after ACORN. Discredit ACORN, you can add pull Obama down a few notches and watch Health Care Reform fail. Brilliant or desperate? We report...you decide.

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And who was a lawyer at Acorn? Mr Hope and Change Himself. No wonder he lies so well. He's had experience in something at least.

Cha-ching! We have a winner! This is EXACTLY why the Right Wingers are going after ACORN. Discredit ACORN, you can add pull Obama down a few notches and watch Health Care Reform fail. Brilliant or desperate? We report...you decide.

which is exactly why the left uses the term tea bag in a derogatory manner, making it sound like some homosexual act - which is really odd, given the left allegedly supports gay rights......

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And who was a lawyer at Acorn? Mr Hope and Change Himself. No wonder he lies so well. He's had experience in something at least.

Cha-ching! We have a winner! This is EXACTLY why the Right Wingers are going after ACORN. Discredit ACORN, you can add pull Obama down a few notches and watch Health Care Reform fail. Brilliant or desperate? We report...you decide.

which is exactly why the left uses the term tea bag in a derogatory manner, making it sound like some homosexual act - which is really odd, given the left allegedly supports gay rights......

The "lady" doth protest too much!

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And who was a lawyer at Acorn? Mr Hope and Change Himself. No wonder he lies so well. He's had experience in something at least.

Cha-ching! We have a winner! This is EXACTLY why the Right Wingers are going after ACORN. Discredit ACORN, you can add pull Obama down a few notches and watch Health Care Reform fail. Brilliant or desperate? We report...you decide.

And that's OK with me. And that's why you will not see Obama support his former employer, he is going to throw them RIGHT under the bus. Brilliant, desparate, doesn't matter to me. Whatever gets them out of my pocket is fine. They should not have made it so easy, like you they didn't know something like this was coming? I do not care WHY people demand ACORN stop getting our money, as long as they stop getting our money. This will carry a long way with the average Joe, even the ones that voted for Obama.

Actually, this will set them free. Once ALL federal funding is cut off (it will be, you know it and I know it, HUD will pull their plug Monday) they will be free to subsidize child sex abusers, drug dealers, slumlords, anyone they want and anyone their volunteer donors want to support and Glenn Beck will have nothing to say about it. You should be thrilled.

Back to the top of the forum we go!

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And who was a lawyer at Acorn? Mr Hope and Change Himself. No wonder he lies so well. He's had experience in something at least.

Cha-ching! We have a winner! This is EXACTLY why the Right Wingers are going after ACORN. Discredit ACORN, you can add pull Obama down a few notches and watch Health Care Reform fail. Brilliant or desperate? We report...you decide.

And that's OK with me. And that's why you will not see Obama support his former employer, he is going to throw them RIGHT under the bus. Brilliant, desparate, doesn't matter to me. Whatever gets them out of my pocket is fine. They should not have made it so easy, like you they didn't know something like this was coming? I do not care WHY people demand ACORN stop getting our money, as long as they stop getting our money. This will carry a long way with the average Joe, even the ones that voted for Obama.

Actually, this will set them free. Once ALL federal funding is cut off (it will be, you know it and I know it, HUD will pull their plug Monday) they will be free to subsidize child sex abusers, drug dealers, slumlords, anyone they want and anyone their volunteer donors want to support and Glenn Beck will have nothing to say about it. You should be thrilled.

Back to the top of the forum we go!

will give the ACLU some competition... which can be more sleazy?

Edited September 13, 2009 by DEDixon

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OH PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! What kind of liberal wacko left wing ding nut talk is that! You work for Acorn or Ovomit? IT IS WHAT IT IS! Two employees of ACORN office telling to undercover reporters how to not pay or report taxes properly and how to circumvent USCIS law! You can stop drinking the MSNBC, NBC, CNN Kool AID now!

None of the other news outlets will cover it because they need to see the entire video...not just the edited version.

They know it's stupid to jump to conclusions based on an edited tape.

Any surprise that only Fox is really covering this? Oh... CNN barely mentioned it. The others are silent.

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AGREED! You are so right on, after what all of us have had to go through the legal and proper way and what we have had to pay and endure in waiting, and then to see this group of Afro-Americans sitting at an ACORN office getting taxpayer money from us that work and pay those taxes so they can give out advice on how to avoid paying taxes and hiding money from the IRS and condoning illegal immigration, WHY how could you not be sick of ACORN and upset? If not then you truly are stupid!

I mean really is this new to anyone, really?

Nope. Nothing new here. The Right Wing Nuts go after ACORN and try to find anything they can throw at them. Exaggerations and all out lies run rampant across the Right Wing blogosphere and then people on blog on sites like this asking if this is new to anyone? Classic.

Please explain exactly which parts are lies and which part are exaggerations. Please. Then please explain how could someone on THIS site (and I presume you really went through the process, yes?) defend the attempt to support, fund and conceal the illegal importation of young girls for prostitution.

I am no Republican, and no Democrat but if someone I supported did this I would no longer support them, this is just plain inexcusable, borderline shocking. These people are playing fast and loose with MY money, confiscated without my consent. No matter WHO you voted for, how can anyone defend this? Preposterous.

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AGREED! You are so right on, after what all of us have had to go through the legal and proper way and what we have had to pay and endure in waiting, and then to see this group of Afro-Americans sitting at an ACORN office getting taxpayer money from us that work and pay those taxes so they can give out advice on how to avoid paying taxes and hiding money from the IRS and condoning illegal immigration, WHY how could you not be sick of ACORN and upset? If not then you truly are stupid!

I mean really is this new to anyone, really?

Nope. Nothing new here. The Right Wing Nuts go after ACORN and try to find anything they can throw at them. Exaggerations and all out lies run rampant across the Right Wing blogosphere and then people on blog on sites like this asking if this is new to anyone? Classic.

Please explain exactly which parts are lies and which part are exaggerations. Please. Then please explain how could someone on THIS site (and I presume you really went through the process, yes?) defend the attempt to support, fund and conceal the illegal importation of young girls for prostitution.

I am no Republican, and no Democrat but if someone I supported did this I would no longer support them, this is just plain inexcusable, borderline shocking. These people are playing fast and loose with MY money, confiscated without my consent. No matter WHO you voted for, how can anyone defend this? Preposterous.

And back to the top we go!!!! I really want to keep this one going as it is such a good example of what liberals will tolerate in the cause of liberalism. Besides, the more they defend it the more they look bad....good for us. Obama is not stupid enough to defend this. LOL

Incidentally, a "panel" has been convened to investigate the arrest of the Havard Law Professor in his home. Which was probably justified, but at worst a minor nuisance for a few people, yet we will see if THIS is investgated.

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And back to the top we go!!!! I really want to keep this one going as it is such a good example of what liberals will tolerate in the cause of liberalism. Besides, the more they defend it the more they look bad....good for us. Obama is not stupid enough to defend this. LOL

No one is defending those two workers conduct, Gary, but you'll keep telling that lie I'm sure.

The absurdity of this all is that ACORN has no connection to the conduct of those workers beyond employing them, but if you want that kind of logic, Gary, lets start a list of all organizations that are 'tainted' by the conduct of a few. Shall we start a list? How about that guy who shot the abortion doctor....said he was motivated by his Christian belief. Should we condemn all Christians? How about all those pedophiles who are pastors or priests in various churches - should we condemn all religions? The question is, just how far you want to go with your logic on this?

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Colonel BG, I admire your quest for liberalism and you are entitled to be a Democrat and defend the party when it is right but, you are dead wrong on this issue, the more you defend it the more it makes you look like a out of touch wacked out liberal nutcase that defends criminal behaviour! And I know you are not for that, you are a fine great American!

And back to the top we go!!!! I really want to keep this one going as it is such a good example of what liberals will tolerate in the cause of liberalism. Besides, the more they defend it the more they look bad....good for us. Obama is not stupid enough to defend this. LOL

No one is defending those two workers conduct, Gary, but you'll keep telling that lie I'm sure.

The absurdity of this all is that ACORN has no connection to the conduct of those workers beyond employing them, but if you want that kind of logic, Gary, lets start a list of all organizations that are 'tainted' by the conduct of a few. Shall we start a list? How about that guy who shot the abortion doctor....said he was motivated by his Christian belief. Should we condemn all Christians? How about all those pedophiles who are pastors or priests in various churches - should we condemn all religions? The question is, just how far you want to go with your logic on this?

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And back to the top we go!!!! I really want to keep this one going as it is such a good example of what liberals will tolerate in the cause of liberalism. Besides, the more they defend it the more they look bad....good for us. Obama is not stupid enough to defend this. LOL

No one is defending those two workers conduct, Gary, but you'll keep telling that lie I'm sure.

The absurdity of this all is that ACORN has no connection to the conduct of those workers beyond employing them, but if you want that kind of logic, Gary, lets start a list of all organizations that are 'tainted' by the conduct of a few. Shall we start a list? How about that guy who shot the abortion doctor....said he was motivated by his Christian belief. Should we condemn all Christians? How about all those pedophiles who are pastors or priests in various churches - should we condemn all religions? The question is, just how far you want to go with your logic on this?

1. While neither I nor my wife would agree to an abortion, if we make a baby we will support it, I do not wish for my personal beliefs to be imposed on others by law. Christians and Christian organizations should not get taxpayer money. Murder is wrong.

2. We should make sure no religion gets taxpayer money. We should make sure no religion who has a tax exemption participates in politics.

3. I do not want private organizations, left, right, center or otherwise getting taxpayer money to fund their agendas, let them get it themselves.

I do not care if ACORN lives or dies, I only care that they are cut off the government teat. These workers gave the ammunition to the enemies of ACORN and to those of us that are not really their "enemy" but just want them out of my pocket. I do not care what they do with private donations from their members or otherwise. Nor do I care what a church does with private donations. Pedophile Preists should be prosecuted, murderers should be prosecuted. Their supporting organizations will suffer or not based on the beliefs of their members. If a few million Catholics want to bail from the Catholic religion because of a few pedophile priests...so be it. It is their decision. I certainly will not support a "bail out" plan.

It is also crucial that you understand that I DO NOT CARE for what reason ACORN gets cut off from my money. A rumor is fine by me. I will gladly promugulate the rumor if it will help acheive the goal.

But you are very wrong to say ACORN has no connection. ACORN has announced a plan to defend these people legally (after believing the tapes were good enough to fire them) ACORN is most very definitely connected to these people. I suggest you tell ACORN they are not connected as they lose millions in federal funding. HUD will pull out their funding tomorrow or Tuesday. I sincerely hope some more budding muckrakers go after other organizations funding also. I hope some left wing muckrakers get funds pulled from the right wing organizations. Let them live or die on their own. The NRA has done well with their own money and members support since 1871, if ACORN has anything valuable to contribute, they will do OK also. If not, let them dry up and blow away. And yes, that goes for religions also.

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And back to the top we go!!!! I really want to keep this one going as it is such a good example of what liberals will tolerate in the cause of liberalism. Besides, the more they defend it the more they look bad....good for us. Obama is not stupid enough to defend this. LOL

No one is defending those two workers conduct, Gary, but you'll keep telling that lie I'm sure.

The absurdity of this all is that ACORN has no connection to the conduct of those workers beyond employing them, but if you want that kind of logic, Gary, lets start a list of all organizations that are 'tainted' by the conduct of a few. Shall we start a list? How about that guy who shot the abortion doctor....said he was motivated by his Christian belief. Should we condemn all Christians? How about all those pedophiles who are pastors or priests in various churches - should we condemn all religions? The question is, just how far you want to go with your logic on this?

1. While neither I nor my wife would agree to an abortion, if we make a baby we will support it, I do not wish for my personal beliefs to be imposed on others by law. Christians and Christian organizations should not get taxpayer money. Murder is wrong.

2. We should make sure no religion gets taxpayer money. We should make sure no religion who has a tax exemption participates in politics.

3. I do not want private organizations, left, right, center or otherwise getting taxpayer money to fund their agendas, let them get it themselves.

I do not care if ACORN lives or dies, I only care that they are cut off the government teat. These workers gave the ammunition to the enemies of ACORN and to those of us that are not really their "enemy" but just want them out of my pocket. I do not care what they do with private donations from their members or otherwise. Nor do I care what a church does with private donations. Pedophile Preists should be prosecuted, murderers should be prosecuted. Their supporting organizations will suffer or not based on the beliefs of their members. If a few million Catholics want to bail from the Catholic religion because of a few pedophile priests...so be it. It is their decision. I certainly will not support a "bail out" plan.

It is also crucial that you understand that I DO NOT CARE for what reason ACORN gets cut off from my money. A rumor is fine by me. I will gladly promugulate the rumor if it will help acheive the goal.

But you are very wrong to say ACORN has no connection. ACORN has announced a plan to defend these people legally (after believing the tapes were good enough to fire them) ACORN is most very definitely connected to these people. I suggest you tell ACORN they are not connected as they lose millions in federal funding. HUD will pull out their funding tomorrow or Tuesday. I sincerely hope some more budding muckrakers go after other organizations funding also. I hope some left wing muckrakers get funds pulled from the right wing organizations. Let them live or die on their own. The NRA has done well with their own money and members support since 1871, if ACORN has anything valuable to contribute, they will do OK also. If not, let them dry up and blow away. And yes, that goes for religions also.

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Colonel BG, I admire your quest for liberalism and you are entitled to be a Democrat and defend the party when it is right but, you are dead wrong on this issue, the more you defend it the more it makes you look like a out of touch wacked out liberal nutcase that defends criminal behaviour! And I know you are not for that, you are a fine great American!

And back to the top we go!!!! I really want to keep this one going as it is such a good example of what liberals will tolerate in the cause of liberalism. Besides, the more they defend it the more they look bad....good for us. Obama is not stupid enough to defend this. LOL

No one is defending those two workers conduct, Gary, but you'll keep telling that lie I'm sure.

The absurdity of this all is that ACORN has no connection to the conduct of those workers beyond employing them, but if you want that kind of logic, Gary, lets start a list of all organizations that are 'tainted' by the conduct of a few. Shall we start a list? How about that guy who shot the abortion doctor....said he was motivated by his Christian belief. Should we condemn all Christians? How about all those pedophiles who are pastors or priests in various churches - should we condemn all religions? The question is, just how far you want to go with your logic on this?

Oh c'mon man don't start down the idiot path, first someone who has a christian belief is entitled to their OWN mindset and what they take from that christian teaching. To even use this as a comparison to TWO different individuals WORKING FOR ACORN and TRAINED BY ACORN to do the things that they are expected to do and then going outside that training, very far outside and so far in fact it can only lead one to believe that either the TRAINING AND TEACHING of the individuals by THE COMPANY was either LAX or WITHOUT REAL THOUGHT. Same as for the pastor and priests working for the CHURCH, the church could pick the wrong people and yes they should be held accountable if the person ends up doing something that is immoral.

YOU are just stuck in the wrong gear...nobody is saying the real problem is with what the people did in this instance....the problem IS WITH ACORN allowing these types of people to be there in the first place. OBVIOUSLY these individuals KNEW what they were doing was WRONG and the thing is THEY DID NOT GIVE A SHYT, they did it without FEAR OF REPRISALS from anybody in AUTHORITY. These acorn representatives did and acted like this was everyday banter with others, there was no...sshhh lemme tell you a secret, IT WAS "DON'T TELL THE IRS" "DON'T LET THE GIRLS FILE TAXES" "USE THOSE 13 YEAR OLD AS HO'S, WE DON'T MIND AND WON'T TELL EITHER"

If this was a one time or few time happening it would be different, but its happened now, it happened last year with the fake voting records, one of the founders EMBEZZLED money from the organization.

Man, you need to get off the couch and step into reality.

If you want to support them so much, stroke a check and send it to them but I for one am tired of their lying, cheating and general BS behavior on the taxpayers dime.

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Colonel BG, I admire your quest for liberalism and you are entitled to be a Democrat and defend the party when it is right but, you are dead wrong on this issue, the more you defend it the more it makes you look like a out of touch wacked out liberal nutcase that defends criminal behaviour! And I know you are not for that, you are a fine great American!

And back to the top we go!!!! I really want to keep this one going as it is such a good example of what liberals will tolerate in the cause of liberalism. Besides, the more they defend it the more they look bad....good for us. Obama is not stupid enough to defend this. LOL

No one is defending those two workers conduct, Gary, but you'll keep telling that lie I'm sure.

The absurdity of this all is that ACORN has no connection to the conduct of those workers beyond employing them, but if you want that kind of logic, Gary, lets start a list of all organizations that are 'tainted' by the conduct of a few. Shall we start a list? How about that guy who shot the abortion doctor....said he was motivated by his Christian belief. Should we condemn all Christians? How about all those pedophiles who are pastors or priests in various churches - should we condemn all religions? The question is, just how far you want to go with your logic on this?

Oh c'mon man don't start down the idiot path, first someone who has a christian belief is entitled to their OWN mindset and what they take from that christian teaching. To even use this as a comparison to TWO different individuals WORKING FOR ACORN and TRAINED BY ACORN to do the things that they are expected to do and then going outside that training, very far outside and so far in fact it can only lead one to believe that either the TRAINING AND TEACHING of the individuals by THE COMPANY was either LAX or WITHOUT REAL THOUGHT. Same as for the pastor and priests working for the CHURCH, the church could pick the wrong people and yes they should be held accountable if the person ends up doing something that is immoral.

YOU are just stuck in the wrong gear...nobody is saying the real problem is with what the people did in this instance....the problem IS WITH ACORN allowing these types of people to be there in the first place. OBVIOUSLY these individuals KNEW what they were doing was WRONG and the thing is THEY DID NOT GIVE A SHYT, they did it without FEAR OF REPRISALS from anybody in AUTHORITY. These acorn representatives did and acted like this was everyday banter with others, there was no...sshhh lemme tell you a secret, IT WAS "DON'T TELL THE IRS" "DON'T LET THE GIRLS FILE TAXES" "USE THOSE 13 YEAR OLD AS HO'S, WE DON'T MIND AND WON'T TELL EITHER"

If this was a one time or few time happening it would be different, but its happened now, it happened last year with the fake voting records, one of the founders EMBEZZLED money from the organization.

Man, you need to get off the couch and step into reality.

If you want to support them so much, stroke a check and send it to them but I for one am tired of their lying, cheating and general BS behavior on the taxpayers dime.

Priests and clergy work for their church, do they not?