ACORN BUSTED again!

[thepizzadude 26]

:rofl: You are kidding RIGHT, you can't seriously be that ******!

What? Can't seriously be that questionable of the tactics that were used to get the "incriminating video".

Can't seriously be that easily conned by some people who obviously were on a mission to make the interviewees look "incriminating".

Can't seriously be that easily fooled into believing that watching the clips out of context might skew the actual intent.

Yes, I'm just kidding...like you, I believe every edited video I see is the absolute an unquestionable truth. Speaking of which, I'm still wondering how the Tin Man and the Lion are doing. At least I don't have to worry about them being right wing nuts...one has a brain, and the other courage.

The people doing this are on a mission, yes. They said so. The girl hatched up the idea because she "doesn't like ACORN" And what? ACORN officials at TWO locations do all they can to cover prostitution, human trafficking, tax evasion, fraud, and who know what else. Had they been honorable they would have tossed the people right out!

What, exactly would a liberal have to do that you would condemn?

Anyone defending thse people hurts their own cause. You will NOT see Obama defending them, he is not that stupid

Not to start a sore point but he did jump right in on the PROFESSORS side against the COP with no forethought except they were BUDS.

[Danno 1,228]

Ya know, politics aside I am amazed a few are actually sounding like defense lawyers rather than normal people looking at what clearly is an alarming situation.

This group ACORN has received Billions of tax dollars and The Presidents Stimulus plan pumps unheard of amounts their way.

I'm wondering if these Property loans are HUD or FANNie?

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I mean really is this new to anyone, really?

Nope. Nothing new here. The Right Wing Nuts go after ACORN and try to find anything they can throw at them. Exaggerations and all out lies run rampant across the Right Wing blogosphere and then people on blog on sites like this asking if this is new to anyone? Classic.

Dishonest Steve checking in. I know your kid will learn honesty from it's mother.

[Ling Ling 22]

:rofl: You are kidding RIGHT, you can't seriously be that ******!

What? Can't seriously be that questionable of the tactics that were used to get the "incriminating video".

What tactics...you mean like when they say we want to buy a house and use it as a brothel...um prostitution is illegal in Baltimore ya know, and then they tell them how to be a landlord instead of an active participant. Or maybe it was the tactic they used when they said they want to bring 13 young girls over to be pimped out...and the lady says don't mention them to the police or iRS

Can't seriously be that easily conned by some people who obviously were on a mission to make the interviewees look "incriminating".

Yes they were on a mission to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the tactics used by this organization on many fronts, AND NO just because a few of the people are not good characters doesn't make the whole group bad, BUT if enough of the characters are bad it does not bode well for the TRAINING AND BELIEFS OF THE ORGANIZATION!

Can't seriously be that easily fooled into believing that watching the clips out of context might skew the actual intent.

Yah they were pretty tricky here...what the hell are you talking about out of context, this isn't a manuscript being read and only the bad parts being sorted this is a full 10 minutes of questions and answers on a variety of fraudulent and illegal activities and NOT ONCE did the accused say um you know that is illegal...oh wait YES THEY DID when the filmers said "I know where the prostitution money comes from" and the accused said "well you don't want to mention that to the IRS"

Yes, I'm just kidding...like you, I believe every edited video I see is the absolute an unquestionable truth. Speaking of which, I'm still wondering how the Tin Man and the Lion are doing. At least I don't have to worry about them being right wing nuts...one has a brain, and the other courage.

So you're of the mind that "as long as you don't get caught" its Oooooooooooookkkkkk...questioning the techniques, winding around the truth as long as you can until finally someone reveals the truth and you can't hide from it anymore.

Where the f#ck did I say "as long as you don't get caught" or that it was "OK" at all? Where has ANYONE supported the idiot employees?

I've made films that have been licensed and distributed globally. I'm intimately familiar with audio and video editing. The fact that we never HEAR the entire question, and we never SEE the guy asking the question (yeah..I know he's wearing the camera) but the combination of these issues along with the very guilty edit points (it's a film term) it makes me very skeptical of what actually occurred. Watch the video again...the questions are clipped...we're expected to believe from the VO and CG that the questions were asked in their entirety without any other setup to the questions. I suppose if this meets your political agenda then one would be so gullible as not to question the content at all.

[Ling Ling 22]

Ya know, politics aside I am amazed a few are actually sounding like defense lawyers rather than normal people looking at what clearly is an alarming situation.

This group ACORN has received Billions of tax dollars and The Presidents Stimulus plan pumps unheard of amounts their way.

I'm wondering if these Property loans are HUD or FANNie?

I don't think anyone is DEFENDING the idiots on the tape...except many are defending the idiots that made the tape.

I'd like to know where you get the Billions of tax dollars received and the unheard of amounts from the President's Stimulus plan.

I'm pretty appalled at a LOT of the spending the current President is doing...but it's still very strange that so many didn't have a problem

when the previous President was wasting Billions of tax dollars and Thousands of American lives.

[Danno 1,228]

Just for humor's sake take note how the "true libs" are all for isolating the punishment towards

"Employees".

In other words, "can those bad apples and lets move along".

Where is this same "limited scope" when our Military is accused of something like...oh I don't know, mistreatment of Iraq prisoners?

Frauds and phonies.

[Ling Ling 22]

Just for humor's sake take note how the "true libs" are all for isolating the punishment towards

"Employees".

In other words, "can those bad apples and lets move along".

Where is this same "limited scope" when our Military is accused of something like...oh I don't know, mistreatment of Iraq prisoners?

Frauds and phonies.

You think Acorn HQ got on the horn and ordered the employees to participate in the "undercover video"?

You're not really that naive to NOT know the difference between military chain of command and a couple of idiot employees.

You're not really that naive to NOT know the difference between soldiers following orders and idiots on their own mission.

Are you?

Maybe you think we should have a full investigation of ACORN's operating procedures, and maybe a Congressional hearing to find out if ACORN has special training on pimps and prostitutes.

Edited September 12, 2009 by Ling Ling

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Just for humor's sake take note how the "true libs" are all for isolating the punishment towards

"Employees".

In other words, "can those bad apples and lets move along".

Where is this same "limited scope" when our Military is accused of something like...oh I don't know, mistreatment of Iraq prisoners?

Frauds and phonies.

You think Acorn HQ got on the horn and ordered the employees to participate in the "undercover video"?

You're not really that naive to NOT know the difference between military chain of command and a couple of idiot employees.

You're not really that naive to NOT know the difference between soldiers following orders and idiots on their own mission.

Are you?

Maybe you think we should have a full investigation of ACORN's operating procedures, and maybe a Congressional hearing to find out if ACORN has special training on pimps and prostitutes.

Ding a ling ling!

[Ling Ling 22]

Ding a ling ling!

Glad to know you missed the ding a ling ling.

[Danno 1,228]

Just for humor's sake take note how the "true libs" are all for isolating the punishment towards

"Employees".

In other words, "can those bad apples and lets move along".

Where is this same "limited scope" when our Military is accused of something like...oh I don't know, mistreatment of Iraq prisoners?

Frauds and phonies.

Maybe you think we should have a full investigation of ACORN's operating procedures, and maybe a Congressional hearing to find out if ACORN has special training on pimps and prostitutes.

Why would we limit it to Pimps and Prostitutes? Apparently these people are trained and very skilled at getting ANYONE to qualify, this recent scandal on film just highlights the clear proof this is SOP for these people.

The Pimp/ Prostitute are incidental.

Would you be against an investigation of say a thousand packages they have done?

If it shows only acceptable levels of error or fraud we "then" move on.

Do we agree?

Edited September 12, 2009 by Danno

[Ling Ling 22]

Just for humor's sake take note how the "true libs" are all for isolating the punishment towards

"Employees".

In other words, "can those bad apples and lets move along".

Where is this same "limited scope" when our Military is accused of something like...oh I don't know, mistreatment of Iraq prisoners?

Frauds and phonies.

Maybe you think we should have a full investigation of ACORN's operating procedures, and maybe a Congressional hearing to find out if ACORN has special training on pimps and prostitutes.

Why would we limit it to Pimps and Prostitutes? Apparently these people are trained and very skilled at getting ANYONE to qualify, this recent scandal on film just highlights the clear proof this is SOP for these people.

The Pimp/ Prostitute are incidental.

Would you be against an investigation of say a thousand packages they have done?

If it shows only acceptable levels of error or fraud we "then" move on.

Do we agree?

Hell yeah...I agree....and I agree that if they find a trail of improprieties ACORN should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I'm not defending ACORN either...I'm saying the video at question is...questionable. Maybe it's just because I know more about audio/video editing than most people on this list, or maybe I'm just more cynical.

Would you be against an investigation of the people who made the film, and if after seeing the entire film find that it doesn't show the true nature of the events should they and all those who belong to their local interest parties be heavily investigated.

Do we agree?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Just for humor's sake take note how the "true libs" are all for isolating the punishment towards

"Employees".

In other words, "can those bad apples and lets move along".

Where is this same "limited scope" when our Military is accused of something like...oh I don't know, mistreatment of Iraq prisoners?

Frauds and phonies.

Maybe you think we should have a full investigation of ACORN's operating procedures, and maybe a Congressional hearing to find out if ACORN has special training on pimps and prostitutes.

Why would we limit it to Pimps and Prostitutes? Apparently these people are trained and very skilled at getting ANYONE to qualify, this recent scandal on film just highlights the clear proof this is SOP for these people.

The Pimp/ Prostitute are incidental.

Would you be against an investigation of say a thousand packages they have done?

If it shows only acceptable levels of error or fraud we "then" move on.

Do we agree?

Hell yeah...I agree....and I agree that if they find a trail of improprieties ACORN should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I'm not defending ACORN either...I'm saying the video at question is...questionable. Maybe it's just because I know more about audio/video editing than most people on this list, or maybe I'm just more cynical.

Would you be against an investigation of the people who made the film, and if after seeing the entire film find that it doesn't show the true nature of the events should they and all those who belong to their local interest parties be heavily investigated.

Do we agree?

I am sure it will come out in the investgation of ACORN just announced by congress. I am sure you are happy that ACORN will have a chance to "clear their name". They have been removed from involvement in the census. Good. They need to be cut off the government teat ASAP.

By the way, you KNOW that ACORN has fired the workers in the tapes and has denounced their actions don't you? Why are you defending scum bags willing to help people abusing children? Do you feel sorry for pedophiles busted by sting operations with adult women "posing" as 13 year old girls?

Just exactly what will you tolerate from a liberal?

[Ling Ling 22]

I am sure it will come out in the investgation of ACORN just announced by congress. I am sure you are happy that ACORN will have a chance to "clear their name". They have been removed from involvement in the census. Good. They need to be cut off the government teat ASAP.

By the way, you KNOW that ACORN has fired the workers in the tapes and has denounced their actions don't you? Why are you defending scum bags willing to help people abusing children? Do you feel sorry for pedophiles busted by sting operations with adult women "posing" as 13 year old girls?

Just exactly what will you tolerate from a liberal?

Are you completely retarded? Does your spouse know about this? How many times do I have to make it clear that I am NOT defending their actions?

How many times do I have to make it clear to you that I don't believe ANY person here would condone child prostitution?

I think the employees should have been fired, and that if it turns out the video is completely factual, they should face criminal charges.

Is that plain enough English for you?

I'm questioning the video. Each time I look at it, it's more suspect. We never hear the entire question that is SUPPOSED to have been asked.

Everything we hear is essentially out of context, and we're supposed to believe the questions were asked PER THE ON-SCREEN TEXT.

Did you notice how it starts off like a music video? They never say when it was recorded do they? How long did they work on it?

If all they were trying to do is expose ACORN, why the rock video intro? Why all the editing? Why no date of recording?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I am sure it will come out in the investgation of ACORN just announced by congress. I am sure you are happy that ACORN will have a chance to "clear their name". They have been removed from involvement in the census. Good. They need to be cut off the government teat ASAP.

By the way, you KNOW that ACORN has fired the workers in the tapes and has denounced their actions don't you? Why are you defending scum bags willing to help people abusing children? Do you feel sorry for pedophiles busted by sting operations with adult women "posing" as 13 year old girls?

Just exactly what will you tolerate from a liberal?

Are you completely retarded? Does your spouse know about this? How many times do I have to make it clear that I am NOT defending their actions?

How many times do I have to make it clear to you that I don't believe ANY person here would condone child prostitution?

I think the employees should have been fired, and that if it turns out the video is completely factual, they should face criminal charges.

Is that plain enough English for you?

I'm questioning the video. Each time I look at it, it's more suspect. We never hear the entire question that is SUPPOSED to have been asked.

Everything we hear is essentially out of context, and we're supposed to believe the questions were asked PER THE ON-SCREEN TEXT.

Did you notice how it starts off like a music video? They never say when it was recorded do they? How long did they work on it?

If all they were trying to do is expose ACORN, why the rock video intro? Why all the editing? Why no date of recording?

Just thought I would post your response again. Thanks. I am sure then you will be pleased with the investigation.

[thepizzadude 26]

Edited or not it is hard to justify your thoughts that they manipulated the film/tape to fit their needs, the scenarios and questions asked could have been totally different from anything in the tape...BUT the responses by the workers "don't tell the cops" "don't tell the IRS" "hide it from the government" "pimp those ho's" etc....basically says one thing...These people don't care what America is about and the company they work for does not either. The company they represent obviously does not spend much time on training or is REALLY not interested in what is represented by their employees. Maybe just maybe they are just in it for the $$$$$ ya think?

I wonder if you asked this many questions when they were supplying all the NEW voters in the past election...WOW how did they find this many new democrats, GOSH I wonder what they did to come up with this many NEW names in this election... hmmm probably doubtful since it was for the DEMs

And no I really didn't agree with a lot of the things that BUSH did, or most of what the so called elected officials have been doing for the past 30 years in Washington but it takes awhile to STOP a moving train.