Medical Exam Fraud

[Richard_y_Abi 0]

When my then fiance and I were preparing for the Visa interview, and before we found out that we did not need to pay to get the vaccinations, until later, after we arrived in the United States, I was so angry. We were staying at a Casa de Huespedes in Juarez, and getting to know many others who were staying there also. Each person that passed through there, without exception, had to re-take their required vaccinations all over again. When I asked as to why, if clearly on their vaccination card, they had already recived many of the mandatory vaccinations necessary. It was explained to me that the doctor's clinic there in Juarez considers all health cards fraudulent. When you go in, you have to surrender your Passport, and cannot retrieve it until you have paid. In the meantime some people are paying over $1,0000 for all the shots and tests.

Before we received the Visa, back where we lived, we had been bringing all three children to the doctor, and my wife, to get these shots. Many times our children were sick from these shots. For the clinic in Juarez to tell me that my children would have to get these shots all over again was just too much. I went to the American Services there in the Consulate and question this type of medicine, and they said that they had full confidence in these doctors. Not being satisfied, I went to the border, where they process the new Visas for entry into the US, and they, too, had the same blind confidence in these doctors. So basically, if you do not do what they say, you do not get your medical results. Without these, you do not get your Visa. The clinic knows this, and uses it to their financial advantage. As a side note. All the people who DID get the shots, not one of them felt sick or nausious. It makes ME wonder if in reality, all the shots that that clinic in Juarez are giving are nothing more that just B-12 shots. I want to report these people so bad. They are taking advantage of people's hopes. Many like us were doing all this on very little money. This is not right

[TBoneTX 46,276]

Sounds to me as though you're getting a "politically correct" or party-line answer, and from people who have no power to correct the situation regardless. Perhaps you could go back to American Services at the consulate and ask to speak with a supervisor, and learn the process necessary to file a formal complaint with the appropriate agency.

[thongd4me 69]

When my then fiance and I were preparing for the Visa interview, and before we found out that we did not need to pay to get the vaccinations, until later, after we arrived in the United States, I was so angry. We were staying at a Casa de Huespedes in Juarez, and getting to know many others who were staying there also. Each person that passed through there, without exception, had to re-take their required vaccinations all over again. When I asked as to why, if clearly on their vaccination card, they had already recived many of the mandatory vaccinations necessary. It was explained to me that the doctor's clinic there in Juarez considers all health cards fraudulent. When you go in, you have to surrender your Passport, and cannot retrieve it until you have paid. In the meantime some people are paying over $1,0000 for all the shots and tests.

Before we received the Visa, back where we lived, we had been bringing all three children to the doctor, and my wife, to get these shots. Many times our children were sick from these shots. For the clinic in Juarez to tell me that my children would have to get these shots all over again was just too much. I went to the American Services there in the Consulate and question this type of medicine, and they said that they had full confidence in these doctors. Not being satisfied, I went to the border, where they process the new Visas for entry into the US, and they, too, had the same blind confidence in these doctors. So basically, if you do not do what they say, you do not get your medical results. Without these, you do not get your Visa. The clinic knows this, and uses it to their financial advantage. As a side note. All the people who DID get the shots, not one of them felt sick or nausious. It makes ME wonder if in reality, all the shots that that clinic in Juarez are giving are nothing more that just B-12 shots. I want to report these people so bad. They are taking advantage of people's hopes. Many like us were doing all this on very little money. This is not right

Ricardo,

To re-state, is it that the vaccinations that they forced on you were not in fact required by the consulate prior to getting your visa,

while the consulate turned a blind eye to their scam because those doctors were the only ones available who could sign off for your family's medical clearance?

If that's the case, maybe someone has an idea which higher authority (congress, senate? or as TBone suggests) could help you with your complaint.

Gracias

Edited September 11, 2009 by thongd4me

[Richard_y_Abi 0]

When my then fiance and I were preparing for the Visa interview, and before we found out that we did not need to pay to get the vaccinations, until later, after we arrived in the United States, I was so angry. We were staying at a Casa de Huespedes in Juarez, and getting to know many others who were staying there also. Each person that passed through there, without exception, had to re-take their required vaccinations all over again. When I asked as to why, if clearly on their vaccination card, they had already recived many of the mandatory vaccinations necessary. It was explained to me that the doctor's clinic there in Juarez considers all health cards fraudulent. When you go in, you have to surrender your Passport, and cannot retrieve it until you have paid. In the meantime some people are paying over $1,0000 for all the shots and tests.

Before we received the Visa, back where we lived, we had been bringing all three children to the doctor, and my wife, to get these shots. Many times our children were sick from these shots. For the clinic in Juarez to tell me that my children would have to get these shots all over again was just too much. I went to the American Services there in the Consulate and question this type of medicine, and they said that they had full confidence in these doctors. Not being satisfied, I went to the border, where they process the new Visas for entry into the US, and they, too, had the same blind confidence in these doctors. So basically, if you do not do what they say, you do not get your medical results. Without these, you do not get your Visa. The clinic knows this, and uses it to their financial advantage. As a side note. All the people who DID get the shots, not one of them felt sick or nausious. It makes ME wonder if in reality, all the shots that that clinic in Juarez are giving are nothing more that just B-12 shots. I want to report these people so bad. They are taking advantage of people's hopes. Many like us were doing all this on very little money. This is not right

Ricardo,

To re-state, is it that the vaccinations that they forced on you were not in fact required by the consulate prior to getting your visa,

while the consulate turned a blind eye to their scam because those doctors were the only ones available who could sign off for your family's medical clearance?

If that's the case, maybe someone has an idea which higher authority (congress, senate? or as TBone suggests) could help you with your complaint.

Gracias

We thought at that time that we had to get my wife and children vaccinated for a second time. It was only after arriving at the clinic did we find out that Abi and the three boys were not required to have the vaccinations until after we arrived in the United States. I am speaking for the thousands of people who DO have to have their shots, again, for the second time. Now that we are in the states, we had the kids vaccinated for their normal back to school shots, and the CDC, or the people administering the shots accepted their health cards as they were. It is only the clinic in Juarez that is insisting that all health cards are fraudulent, and therefore, everyone must get these shots. I am sure that better safe than sorry might be the best way to excuse this kind of extortion, but many people are just like us, honest and patriotic. My experience with Mexico's health system is that it is a good system that cares greatly for the health of its people. The clinic there, however, is a private practice, and, there are no other doctors in Juarez to get a second opinion.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

You might want to see if your Senator or Representative can raise the issue on your behalf with either USCIS or the Department of State (in charge of Consulate offices). Fraudulent practises do seem to be rampant among panel physicians as well as civil surgeons here in the US. Perhaps some attention from an 'official' might get some action - or at least a willingness to investigate even if you never actually find out that it has happened.