The Official Apology

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Responding to extremism with extremism. Genius.

Since when is freedom speech considered 'extreme'? They are fighting fanatics (who kill people) with words. I have no problem with this.

You people criticize free speech but remain silent about actual terrorism.

Hardly silent. I have said on many occasions that it is not acceptable. What else would you have me say?

And while you seem to want to make this about 'free speech', the single objection I have to this is that it paints ALL muslims in a negative manner, that tars them all with the brush of religious fanaticism.

How is that acceptable in the name of 'responsible' free speech? I say responsible because it goes back to that argument that just because you can say something doesn't mean you should...

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

[Ban Hammer 13,349]

Responding to extremism with extremism. Genius.

Since when is freedom speech considered 'extreme'? They are fighting fanatics (who kill people) with words. I have no problem with this.

You people criticize free speech but remain silent about actual terrorism.

Hardly silent. I have said on many occasions that it is not acceptable. What else would you have me say?

And while you seem to want to make this about 'free speech', the single objection I have to this is that it paints ALL muslims in a negative manner, that tars them all with the brush of religious fanaticism.

How is that acceptable in the name of 'responsible' free speech? I say responsible because it goes back to that argument that just because you can say something doesn't mean you should...

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

one question i have is - are these pics real or photoshopped?

[Sister Fracas 5]

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

Don't give him/her, and others that enjoy painting an entire group of individuals with one stroke of the brush the satisfaction.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

Don't give him/her, and others that enjoy painting an entire group of individuals with one stroke of the brush the satisfaction.

No one has ever said that here. When will you get that? You paint me with that same brush. Just because I'm opposed to terrorism doesn't mean I'm a racist. But you imply that? whatever.

[jenni and sami 0]

Responding to extremism with extremism. Genius.

Since when is freedom speech considered 'extreme'? They are fighting fanatics (who kill people) with words. I have no problem with this.

You people criticize free speech but remain silent about actual terrorism.

Hardly silent. I have said on many occasions that it is not acceptable. What else would you have me say?

And while you seem to want to make this about 'free speech', the single objection I have to this is that it paints ALL muslims in a negative manner, that tars them all with the brush of religious fanaticism.

How is that acceptable in the name of 'responsible' free speech? I say responsible because it goes back to that argument that just because you can say something doesn't mean you should...

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

one question i have is - are these pics real or photoshopped?

OK, I know I said I'd duck out, but just to clarify - yes, they are real, or certainly very similar banners were carried. The photos are, I believe, of a protest in London that was held just after the Danish cartoons were published. Most mainstream UK muslim groups condemned these banners for insighting violence, and the demonstration was pretty small if I remember rightly.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Responding to extremism with extremism. Genius.

Since when is freedom speech considered 'extreme'? They are fighting fanatics (who kill people) with words. I have no problem with this.

You people criticize free speech but remain silent about actual terrorism.

Hardly silent. I have said on many occasions that it is not acceptable. What else would you have me say?

And while you seem to want to make this about 'free speech', the single objection I have to this is that it paints ALL muslims in a negative manner, that tars them all with the brush of religious fanaticism.

How is that acceptable in the name of 'responsible' free speech? I say responsible because it goes back to that argument that just because you can say something doesn't mean you should...

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

one question i have is - are these pics real or photoshopped?

I don't doubt they are real. What's your point? That we should accept as broad fact a racist interpretation of practitioners of an ancient religion and culture. What exactly is the point that is being made here?

Terrorism is bad? No $hit Sherlock.

[Sister Fracas 5]

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

Don't give him/her, and others that enjoy painting an entire group of individuals with one stroke of the brush the satisfaction.

No one has ever said that here. When will you get that? You paint me with that same brush. Just because I'm opposed to terrorism doesn't mean I'm a racist. But you imply that? whatever.

never said your name in THIS thread, who said I meant you....

yeah, whatever...

Edited July 13, 2006 by Frances

[Ban Hammer 13,349]

Responding to extremism with extremism. Genius.

Since when is freedom speech considered 'extreme'? They are fighting fanatics (who kill people) with words. I have no problem with this.

You people criticize free speech but remain silent about actual terrorism.

Hardly silent. I have said on many occasions that it is not acceptable. What else would you have me say?

And while you seem to want to make this about 'free speech', the single objection I have to this is that it paints ALL muslims in a negative manner, that tars them all with the brush of religious fanaticism.

How is that acceptable in the name of 'responsible' free speech? I say responsible because it goes back to that argument that just because you can say something doesn't mean you should...

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

one question i have is - are these pics real or photoshopped?

I don't doubt they are real. What's your point? That we should accept as broad fact a racist interpretation of practitioners of an ancient religion and culture. What exactly is the point that is being made here?

Terrorism is bad? No $hit Sherlock.

it was just a question, fishdude, no need to get your knickers in a knot over it. i know that some might change signs to suit their desires, i was curious if this was a case of it. are we clear?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Responding to extremism with extremism. Genius.

Since when is freedom speech considered 'extreme'? They are fighting fanatics (who kill people) with words. I have no problem with this.

You people criticize free speech but remain silent about actual terrorism.

Hardly silent. I have said on many occasions that it is not acceptable. What else would you have me say?

And while you seem to want to make this about 'free speech', the single objection I have to this is that it paints ALL muslims in a negative manner, that tars them all with the brush of religious fanaticism.

How is that acceptable in the name of 'responsible' free speech? I say responsible because it goes back to that argument that just because you can say something doesn't mean you should...

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

one question i have is - are these pics real or photoshopped?

I don't doubt they are real. What's your point? That we should accept as broad fact a racist interpretation of practitioners of an ancient religion and culture. What exactly is the point that is being made here?

Terrorism is bad? No $hit Sherlock.

it was just a question, fishdude, no need to get your knickers in a knot over it. i know that some might change signs to suit their desires, i was curious if this was a case of it. are we clear?

I don't appear to be the one with the attitude. I leave that to the people who present racist, over-emotional rubbish as fact, and hide behind it as 'free speech'.

Its despicable on all counts. The terrorism and the hateful overreaction to it to include all muslims. Which it does, however you present it.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Of course this will turn into yet another flame war, which is exactly what the trolling OP, clearly wants.

Don't give him/her, and others that enjoy painting an entire group of individuals with one stroke of the brush the satisfaction.

No one has ever said that here. When will you get that? You paint me with that same brush. Just because I'm opposed to terrorism doesn't mean I'm a racist. But you imply that? whatever.

never said your name in THIS thread, who said I meant you....

yeah, whatever...

Okay, I didn't say your name either. So there.....

1. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful.

2.But the vast majority of terrorism is done in the name of Islam.

Those two statements are true but some, unamed, people want to fuse them.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Check your righteous indignation at the door.

1. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful.

2.But the vast majority of terrorism is done in the name of Islam.

No objection there - but as I said websites like the one troll (OP) linked to do not reflect that. IMO.

How exactly are law abiding muslims of many countries supposed to view this? The argument presented is ultimately divisive and discriminatory.

Edited July 13, 2006 by erekose

[UmmSqueakster 54]

Woooo, I finally have a chance to use all the spiffy thread bombs I've collected

[Veiled Princess 1]

Okay, I didn't say your name either. So there.....

1. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful.

2.But the vast majority of terrorism is done in the name of Islam.

Those two statements are true but some, unamed, people want to fuse them.

America and Israel have killed far more innocent people then the "jihadist terrorists"... didn't realize they were working for Islam....

Edited July 13, 2006 by veiledprincesslayla

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Okay, I didn't say your name either. So there.....

1. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful.

2.But the vast majority of terrorism is done in the name of Islam.

Those two statements are true but some, unamed, people want to fuse them.

America and Israel have killed far more innocent people then the "jihadist terrorists"... didn't realize they were working for Islam....

I don't, necessarily, disagree. Just start your own thread and we'll discuss it there. I never ever want a thread locked and will discuss anything (discuss = argue )

[Fandango 1,439]

Guys, this thread will prolly be removed soon anyways, so please try not to feed the troll here...