Another idiot with a gun

[thepizzadude 26]

Another idiot with a gun, Man shoots 4 family members, then himself

Well heres your topic

And then Plat says "I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination."

And you say "Good idea.

Except that makes you no better than the idiots."

So what exactly is this thread SUPPOSED to be about?

[rebeccajo 14]

Another idiot with a gun, Man shoots 4 family members, then himself

Well heres your topic

And then Plat says "I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination."

And you say "Good idea.

Except that makes you no better than the idiots."

So what exactly is this thread SUPPOSED to be about?

Keep readin! You'll get there!

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Before anyone comes in here and starts the "z0MG! Teh gunz r EVAL!!!1" thing, I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination.

Sounds good to me, at least.

humans are dangerous

[thepizzadude 26]

Another idiot with a gun, Man shoots 4 family members, then himself

Well heres your topic

And then Plat says "I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination."

And you say "Good idea.

Except that makes you no better than the idiots."

So what exactly is this thread SUPPOSED to be about?

Keep readin! You'll get there!

So back to the original You don't really know what the heck you were posting it for except to say ANOTHER idiot with a GUN... I C

So I will stick with my original response

[_Simpson_ 250]

Sorry Natty, no matter how obvious it is that guns make it easy to snap and cause damage in an instant, the fact that many gun owners never do somehow makes suggesting guns can be dangerous is wrong... It's a conundrum!

Good grief. What if its a mad man behind the wheel of a car, a lot more serious ####### could go down with better chances of someone dying. Do we make cars illegal. Sorry but your argument doesn't hold water. You don't punish the law abiding citizens because of the mad few.

He said it was a conundrum. Do you know what that means?

I do know what it means, its not a difficult issue. You dont punish the law abiding citizens, plain and simple. Many things could be used as a weapon that could be far more deadly. We dont consider out lawing them. The issue is with the gunman not the gun. Not a difficult issue.

[_Simpson_ 250]

He didn't use a car- he used a gun. Cars are for driving, guns are for shooting.

Like I've always believed... mandatory mental testing to at least try and detect mental illness and propensity to violent behavior in wannabe Clint Eastwoods...

Guns and cars have a purpose, neither for killing innocent people. When they are not used for what they weren't meant for the law needs to step in

Edited September 7, 2009 by _Simpson_

[rebeccajo 14]

Another idiot with a gun, Man shoots 4 family members, then himself

Well heres your topic

And then Plat says "I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination."

And you say "Good idea.

Except that makes you no better than the idiots."

So what exactly is this thread SUPPOSED to be about?

Keep readin! You'll get there!

So back to the original You don't really know what the heck you were posting it for except to say ANOTHER idiot with a GUN... I C

So I will stick with my original response

All that staring at your monitor has made it impossible to have thoughts outside of a single dimension?

[natty bumppo 297]

Sorry Natty, no matter how obvious it is that guns make it easy to snap and cause damage in an instant, the fact that many gun owners never do somehow makes suggesting guns can be dangerous is wrong... It's a conundrum!

geez ... at least let me post in the thread before dragging me all over it ....

that said ... the guy got the sequence wrong. he's supposed to do himself first to make sure the plan works.

[thepizzadude 26]

Another idiot with a gun, Man shoots 4 family members, then himself

Well heres your topic

And then Plat says "I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination."

And you say "Good idea.

Except that makes you no better than the idiots."

So what exactly is this thread SUPPOSED to be about?

Keep readin! You'll get there!

So back to the original You don't really know what the heck you were posting it for except to say ANOTHER idiot with a GUN... I C

So I will stick with my original response

All that staring at your monitor has made it impossible to have thoughts outside of a single dimension?

No I have no problem thinking about all the aspects of a given situation. If you wanted to point out something else in the post that you may have been trying to draw attention to you would have titled the topic differently. I'm sorry I see through the hidden meanings.

Like, if you wanted to talk about the plight of the 4 family members that were murdered you would have made the topic something like "Family of 4 dies because of unstable relative" or "4 people murdered by family member" or maybe if you wanted to draw attention to the unstable mind of the individual that did the killing. You could have titled it something like "Poor crazy guy seeking help kills 4" or "I wonder if anyone tried to help this poor soul" but NOOOOOO....

You titled it ANOTHER IDIOT WITH A GUN....... it's not hard to see where your heading with a comment like that.

[jundp 191]

Before anyone comes in here and starts the "z0MG! Teh gunz r EVAL!!!1" thing, I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination.

Sounds good to me, at least.

humans are dangerous

Especially the idiots...

[HAL 9000 96]

He didn't use a car- he used a gun. Cars are for driving, guns are for shooting.

Like I've always believed... mandatory mental testing to at least try and detect mental illness and propensity to violent behavior in wannabe Clint Eastwoods...

Guns and cars have a purpose, neither for killing innocent people. When they are not used for what they weren't meant for the law needs to step in

I don't think there is a distinction for driving a car as either driving somewhere innocently or guilty. Guns have a single purpose: to penetrate flesh and either maim or kill. If that isn't obvious then there really isn't a purpose of discussing morality and legality.

Sorry Natty, no matter how obvious it is that guns make it easy to snap and cause damage in an instant, the fact that many gun owners never do somehow makes suggesting guns can be dangerous is wrong... It's a conundrum!

geez ... at least let me post in the thread before dragging me all over it ....

that said ... the guy got the sequence wrong. he's supposed to do himself first to make sure the plan works.

I wish he would've done that as well.

[_Simpson_ 250]

I don't think there is a distinction for driving a car as either driving somewhere innocently or guilty. Guns have a single purpose: to penetrate flesh and either maim or kill. If that isn't obvious then there really isn't a purpose of discussing morality and legality.

Guns are used as a deterrent too, my point being is deal with the gunman not the gun. A madman has a lot of options and its pointless to think if we take the gun out of the equation its all good.

I gotta go

[HAL 9000 96]

I don't think there is a distinction for driving a car as either driving somewhere innocently or guilty. Guns have a single purpose: to penetrate flesh and either maim or kill. If that isn't obvious then there really isn't a purpose of discussing morality and legality.

Guns are used as a deterrent too, my point being is deal with the gunman not the gun. A madman has a lot of options and its pointless to think if we take the gun out of the equation its all good.

I gotta go

Well as I've said before... we're not talking about an across the board 'taking guns out of the equation' deal here. For every extreme case and crazy out there we can find a weapon down to a carpet fiber if you want. The very clear difference is obvious, like I said- and its in the design of the weapon. I'm sure if you were to do an actual statistical analysis to show frequency of use and result in depriving humans of their lives in a non-bellicose fashion that the intentional use of cars, tractors, RVs, knives, chalk, fingernails, rope, arsenic, flowers, ghecko tails, beer bottles, farts, frying pans, pizza cutters, street signs, cement blocks, pirañas, sharks, etc all added up have NOT been utilized to kill as many people as firearms.

And in those details is where we should be rationalizing our thinking... not in equating things on slippery slopes as if they were all equal.

[natty bumppo 297]

Sorry Natty, no matter how obvious it is that guns make it easy to snap and cause damage in an instant, the fact that many gun owners never do somehow makes suggesting guns can be dangerous is wrong... It's a conundrum!

geez ... at least let me post in the thread before dragging me all over it ....

that said ... the guy got the sequence wrong. he's supposed to do himself first to make sure the plan works.

I wish he would've done that as well.

maybe we can create a PSA ... promoting the benefits of testing the intended plan on yourself first ... call it a dress rehearsal. afterall ... if the plan doesn't work think how embarrassed you'd feel having to serve jail time for being a dumbazz and failing.

[rebeccajo 14]

Another idiot with a gun, Man shoots 4 family members, then himself

Well heres your topic

And then Plat says "I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination."

And you say "Good idea.

Except that makes you no better than the idiots."

So what exactly is this thread SUPPOSED to be about?

Keep readin! You'll get there!

So back to the original You don't really know what the heck you were posting it for except to say ANOTHER idiot with a GUN... I C

So I will stick with my original response

All that staring at your monitor has made it impossible to have thoughts outside of a single dimension?

No I have no problem thinking about all the aspects of a given situation. If you wanted to point out something else in the post that you may have been trying to draw attention to you would have titled the topic differently. I'm sorry I see through the hidden meanings.

Like, if you wanted to talk about the plight of the 4 family members that were murdered you would have made the topic something like "Family of 4 dies because of unstable relative" or "4 people murdered by family member" or maybe if you wanted to draw attention to the unstable mind of the individual that did the killing. You could have titled it something like "Poor crazy guy seeking help kills 4" or "I wonder if anyone tried to help this poor soul" but NOOOOOO....

You titled it ANOTHER IDIOT WITH A GUN....... it's not hard to see where your heading with a comment like that.

That's right. All I had to do was set the bait and you all come running.

Now that we've got that sorted out ............ let's see if you can take it to the next level. Or if your selective outrage will keep you from it.