Another idiot with a gun

[rebeccajo 14]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/06/louisi...ings/index.html

(CNN) -- A man shot his estranged wife to death, along with their son and grandson, before turning the gun on himself as police closed in, authorities in Livingston Parish, Louisiana, said Sunday.

Police say Dennis Carter Sr. shot four family members, three fatally, before turning the gun on himself.

Dennis Carter Sr., 50, also shot and critically injured his pregnant daughter-in-law, the parish sheriff's office said in a statement. The shootings occurred Saturday night in the town of Holden, Louisiana.

Authorities were dispatched to a report of shots fired at a home about 10:40 p.m. Upon arrival, they found three people dead and the fourth -- Amber Carter, 25 -- in critical condition, the statement said.

Those killed were Dennis Carter Jr., 26, Amber Carter's husband; their son Mason Carter, 2; and 49-year-old Donna Carter, mother of Dennis Carter Jr. and estranged wife of Dennis Carter Sr., police said. All had been shot to death. A 16-month-old child at the home was unharmed, authorities said.

Deputies believe Amber Carter attempted to escape from the gunman by jumping from a second-story window, holding Mason in her arms, the statement said, but the boy did not survive his gunshot wounds.

Amber Carter had several bullet wounds, said Perry Rushing, chief of operations for the sheriff's office, and authorities believe the gunman shot her in the back as she was attempting to get out the window while holding the child. She also may have been shot again after she got outside the home, Rushing told CNN.

Amber Carter was flown to a Baton Rouge, Louisiana, hospital, and later transferred to New Orleans, Rushing said. She was in critical condition as of Sunday morning.

A neighbor in the area told deputies that he heard a gunshot and saw Carter Sr. walking to a car, a red El Camino, with a gun in his hand, the sheriff's statement said.

At 11:30 p.m., a police officer in the adjacent town of Livingston saw the vehicle entering Interstate 12 heading eastbound, the statement said. A Livingston Parish sheriff's deputy followed the car and attempted to stop it. "However, the suspect shot himself with a handgun, in plain view of the officers, as the vehicle veered off the shoulder of the interstate near the Holden exit," police said.

Records from the Livingston Parish Detention Center show that Dennis Carter Sr., of Hammond, Louisiana, had been jailed "on three separate occasions in 2009 alone, on three separate charges of violation of a protective order and one charge of aggravated assault (domestic)," the sheriff's office said.

"At this time, there do not appear to be any other suspects or victims in this ongoing investigation," police said.

Holden is about 35 miles east of Baton Rouge.

[Nagishkaw 510]

0MG!

[forchika 4]

heart goes out to the family....a true tragedy!!!!

[MariaBonita 11]

Very sad and tragic.

[PlatyPius 5]

Before anyone comes in here and starts the "z0MG! Teh gunz r EVAL!!!1" thing, I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination.

Sounds good to me, at least.

[rebeccajo 14]

Before anyone comes in here and starts the "z0MG! Teh gunz r EVAL!!!1" thing, I wanted to suggest that the problem isn't with guns; it's with idiots. Allow me/us to remove the idiots from society, and there won't be a problem with guns any longer. Responsible gun owners can continue to hunt and protect themselves from those who will inevitably escape the initial wave of detection and termination.

Sounds good to me, at least.

Good idea.

Except that makes you no better than the idiots.

[SuperDuper! 230]

Another hate on guns thread? And it's not even 10am...

[rebeccajo 14]

Another hate on guns thread? And it's not even 10am...

Believe it or not, it's not a 'hate on guns' thread.

The guy was obviously unstable. You wonder if he had tried to get any help. You wonder if his family had tried to intervene. You wonder what would push him over the edge.

The only 'problem' I've got with the gun is it seems like the man might have actually been 'hunting' them. And even I will admit it's not the 'gun' that caused the hunting.

If the guy had a history of mental illness, or had a breakdown of some kind since he purchased his weapon, should his family (or we as a society) have a right to remove those weapons from him once a report has been filed?

Edited September 7, 2009 by rebeccajo

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Sorry Natty, no matter how obvious it is that guns make it easy to snap and cause damage in an instant, the fact that many gun owners never do somehow makes suggesting guns can be dangerous is wrong... It's a conundrum!

[_Simpson_ 250]

Sorry Natty, no matter how obvious it is that guns make it easy to snap and cause damage in an instant, the fact that many gun owners never do somehow makes suggesting guns can be dangerous is wrong... It's a conundrum!

Good grief. What if its a mad man behind the wheel of a car, a lot more serious ####### could go down with better chances of someone dying. Do we make cars illegal. Sorry but your argument doesn't hold water. You don't punish the law abiding citizens because of the mad few.

[rebeccajo 14]

Sorry Natty, no matter how obvious it is that guns make it easy to snap and cause damage in an instant, the fact that many gun owners never do somehow makes suggesting guns can be dangerous is wrong... It's a conundrum!

Good grief. What if its a mad man behind the wheel of a car, a lot more serious ####### could go down with better chances of someone dying. Do we make cars illegal. Sorry but your argument doesn't hold water. You don't punish the law abiding citizens because of the mad few.

He said it was a conundrum. Do you know what that means?

Edited September 7, 2009 by rebeccajo

[thepizzadude 26]

Another hate on guns thread? And it's not even 10am...

Knife-Wielding Man Kills 8 Children at Japanese School http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/09/world/kn...ese-school.html

WOW he killed 8 "CHILDREN" with a knife, lets get rid of all the knives...oh noes it was a kitchen knife too...how will we cut our foood... ZOMG!!

And this guy killed himself with a plastic knife... how can we go on no more knives at KFC I say!! http://blogs.app.com/saywhat/2009/01/14/ma...-family-600000/

What about cars:

http://www.kmbc.com/news/20727406/detail.html

http://www.automk.com/thread-104094-1-1.html

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/244/story/905696.html

And look at all these killer cars....we need to ban them..and the first one was a police car LETS BAN POLICE too and THEY HAVE GUNS Double Good..OMG help us help us!

ANd ROPE oh jeez not rope....how will we live...people kill people with ROPES oooooommmmmmmggggggg!!

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?artic...bCategoryId=107

http://www.mymmogames.net/forum/news-curre...-dead-body.html

http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/s....aspx?id=332267 This poor guy accidentally died at the hands of a rope....aaghhhhhhhhhh

When will you people wake up and figure out it is NOT THE GUN it is the DUMB*** with the gun, there will always be dumba***** and they will find someway to kill no matter what you do to guns.

Edited September 7, 2009 by thepizzadude

[HAL 9000 96]

He didn't use a car- he used a gun. Cars are for driving, guns are for shooting.

Like I've always believed... mandatory mental testing to at least try and detect mental illness and propensity to violent behavior in wannabe Clint Eastwoods...

[SuperDuper! 230]

Sorry Natty, no matter how obvious it is that guns make it easy to snap and cause damage in an instant, the fact that many gun owners never do somehow makes suggesting guns can be dangerous is wrong... It's a conundrum!

Good grief. What if its a mad man behind the wheel of a car, a lot more serious ####### could go down with better chances of someone dying. Do we make cars illegal. Sorry but your argument doesn't hold water. You don't punish the law abiding citizens because of the mad few.

He said it was a conundrum. Do you know what that means?

I think a conundrum is a puzzle wrapped inside of an enigma.

[rebeccajo 14]

Another hate on guns thread? And it's not even 10am...

Knife-Wielding Man Kills 8 Children at Japanese School http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/09/world/kn...ese-school.html

WOW he killed 8 "CHILDREN" with a knife, lets get rid of all the knives...oh noes it was a kitchen knife too...how will we cut our foood... ZOMG!!

And this guy killed himself with a plastic knife... how can we go on no more knives at KFC I say!! http://blogs.app.com/saywhat/2009/01/14/ma...-family-600000/

What about cars:

http://www.kmbc.com/news/20727406/detail.html

http://www.automk.com/thread-104094-1-1.html

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/244/story/905696.html

And look at all these killer cars....we need to ban them..and the first one was a police car LETS BAN POLICE too and THEY HAVE GUNS Double Good..OMG help us help us!

ANd ROPE oh jeez not rope....how will we live...people kill people with ROPES oooooommmmmmmggggggg!!

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?artic...bCategoryId=107

http://www.mymmogames.net/forum/news-curre...-dead-body.html

http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/news/s....aspx?id=332267 This poor guy accidentally died at the hands of a rope....aaghhhhhhhhhh

When will you people wake up and figure out it is NOT THE GUN it is the DUMB*** with the gun, there will always be dumba***** and they will find someway to kill no matter what you do to guns.

Is it too hard for you all to stay on topic?