HELP

[richardvp 0]

Can somebody help us i am a canadian who is in love with an american and i was wondering what is the best way that we can be together, were not engaged but in the near future we both would move to each others country but we dont want to break up if we cant. We would like to know is it easier to get into canada for her than me go to the usa and what do we need to do to make this happen besides getting married. I found that i can only stay in the states for 90 days i dont have a career but we both go to university what do we do please help us.

[newlyweds 0]

if you're not planning to get married soon, i'd say you shouldn't use the K-1 as yes, you will have to get married within 90 days after gettin to america then from there you'll have to apply for an adjustment of status so you can become a green card holder

[Spoom 8]

This forum is primarily targetting people emigrating TO the United States. You seem to be looking for information about emigration to Canada; there is a fairly active forum at Immigration.ca where you might be able to get more information.

If you do want to go from Canada to the United States, then you should start reading at the visa comparison page here, as it will give you a good overview of the possible visas for which you could apply.

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

If you do not want to get married yet, I suggest looking into student visas to the USA or Canada; I know if you get accepted to a US university, it is quite easy to get a student visa, and fast, but the university fees are high!

[thongd4me 69]

Can somebody help us i am a canadian who is in love with an american and i was wondering what is the best way that we can be together, were not engaged but in the near future we both would move to each others country but we dont want to break up if we cant. We would like to know is it easier to get into canada for her than me go to the usa and what do we need to do to make this happen besides getting married. I found that i can only stay in the states for 90 days i dont have a career but we both go to university what do we do please help us.

Other than the K-1 or K-3 process (assuming you want to or have married) the only way you can come here is

with a valid student or work visa.

Claiming to be Obama's long-lost cousin will probably not do it.

There's a waiting list from New York to Singapore for that group.

As for Canadian immigration you should find that through Google.

Best of luck

[KarenCee 3]

Can somebody help us i am a canadian who is in love with an american and i was wondering what is the best way that we can be together, were not engaged but in the near future we both would move to each others country but we dont want to break up if we cant. We would like to know is it easier to get into canada for her than me go to the usa(research both and make your decision based on that...that's my advice) and what do we need to do to make this happen besides getting married (there is no "living together visa" it's either marriage or as Penguin suggested a student visa for you to attend university here in the States). I found that i can only stay in the states for 90 days i dont have a career but we both go to university what do we do please help us.

Best wishes figuring this out!

[brlukath 1]

It is actually very easy to move (not "immigrate") to the US if you are from Canada (It is harder to move to Canada if you are a USC, but not that much). In any event, if you are students, that is the easiest option. If you are not actually considering marriage, the other option--IF YOU DO NOT WORK--is to leave the country and have your passport stamped (just to be safe) before the expiry of the 90 days (I thought Canada had more time... you should check the VWP site). This also would work for the USC going to Canada. I had close friends (both Canadian) the husband got a work visa in the US, but the wife couldn't for about 5 years. During that whole time they lived in the US, but she and her kids regularly returned to Canada in order not to violate US immigration laws. Depending on where you live (close to the border--going to Mexico works too) and whether the citizen can/is willing to support the other, it is not that hard.

I won't go into work visas because (esp. in this economy) it is getting more and more difficult to find employers to sponsor you unless you really have something important/good to offer or are very highly trained (doctor, lawyer, exec, etc.), I had 2 employment sponsorships cancelled in the last month.

[KarenCee 3]

It is actually very easy to move (not "immigrate") to the US if you are from Canada (It is harder to move to Canada if you are a USC, but not that much). In any event, if you are students, that is the easiest option. If you are not actually considering marriage, the other option--IF YOU DO NOT WORK--is to leave the country and have your passport stamped (just to be safe) before the expiry of the 90 days (I thought Canada had more time... you should check the VWP site). This also would work for the USC going to Canada. I had close friends (both Canadian) the husband got a work visa in the US, but the wife couldn't for about 5 years. During that whole time they lived in the US, but she and her kids regularly returned to Canada in order not to violate US immigration laws. Depending on where you live (close to the border--going to Mexico works too) and whether the citizen can/is willing to support the other, it is not that hard.

I won't go into work visas because (esp. in this economy) it is getting more and more difficult to find employers to sponsor you unless you really have something important/good to offer or are very highly trained (doctor, lawyer, exec, etc.), I had 2 employment sponsorships cancelled in the last month.

Could you provide links to back up what you're saying? Not sure how you get the idea that it's easy to move here (you seem to insinuate one can live here without immigrating) from Canada. Yes, the student visa is an option as long as he or she is accepted into university here. Just wondered where you are getting your information. Without documetation this advice (IMHO) isn't good advice at all.

[Boiler 45,479]

All work visa's I know of have a derivative for spouses and children

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It is actually very easy to move (not "immigrate") to the US if you are from Canada (It is harder to move to Canada if you are a USC, but not that much). In any event, if you are students, that is the easiest option. If you are not actually considering marriage, the other option--IF YOU DO NOT WORK--is to leave the country and have your passport stamped (just to be safe) before the expiry of the 90 days (I thought Canada had more time... you should check the VWP site). This also would work for the USC going to Canada. I had close friends (both Canadian) the husband got a work visa in the US, but the wife couldn't for about 5 years. During that whole time they lived in the US, but she and her kids regularly returned to Canada in order not to violate US immigration laws. Depending on where you live (close to the border--going to Mexico works too) and whether the citizen can/is willing to support the other, it is not that hard.

I won't go into work visas because (esp. in this economy) it is getting more and more difficult to find employers to sponsor you unless you really have something important/good to offer or are very highly trained (doctor, lawyer, exec, etc.), I had 2 employment sponsorships cancelled in the last month.

Could you provide links to back up what you're saying? Not sure how you get the idea that it's easy to move here (you seem to insinuate one can live here without immigrating) from Canada. Yes, the student visa is an option as long as he or she is accepted into university here. Just wondered where you are getting your information. Without documetation this advice (IMHO) isn't good advice at all.

I cannot, but I can tell you this. I live on an island in Lake Champlain 6 miles from Canada and many of my neighbors are Canadians. Canadian citizens, NOT permanent US residents. They have Canadian "permanent addresses" and a "vacation home" in the US. They work in Canada. Do you think anyone counts how many nights they sleep where? Where do they "live"? US or Canada? Many Americans in this area have vacation homes or ski condos in Quebec. Where do THEY "live". There is no prohibition against a Canadian (or anyone else for that matter) from owning or renting property in the US. The only problem comes in when you want to work, go to school, etc. A Canadian who wants to work in Montreal (or many in south shore suburban Montreal industries and businesses) and sleep, shop for groceries and relax on their deck in Vermont has no particular problem at all.

[KarenCee 3]

It is actually very easy to move (not "immigrate") to the US if you are from Canada (It is harder to move to Canada if you are a USC, but not that much). In any event, if you are students, that is the easiest option. If you are not actually considering marriage, the other option--IF YOU DO NOT WORK--is to leave the country and have your passport stamped (just to be safe) before the expiry of the 90 days (I thought Canada had more time... you should check the VWP site). This also would work for the USC going to Canada. I had close friends (both Canadian) the husband got a work visa in the US, but the wife couldn't for about 5 years. During that whole time they lived in the US, but she and her kids regularly returned to Canada in order not to violate US immigration laws. Depending on where you live (close to the border--going to Mexico works too) and whether the citizen can/is willing to support the other, it is not that hard.

I won't go into work visas because (esp. in this economy) it is getting more and more difficult to find employers to sponsor you unless you really have something important/good to offer or are very highly trained (doctor, lawyer, exec, etc.), I had 2 employment sponsorships cancelled in the last month.

Could you provide links to back up what you're saying? Not sure how you get the idea that it's easy to move here (you seem to insinuate one can live here without immigrating) from Canada. Yes, the student visa is an option as long as he or she is accepted into university here. Just wondered where you are getting your information. Without documetation this advice (IMHO) isn't good advice at all.

I cannot, but I can tell you this. I live on an island in Lake Champlain 6 miles from Canada and many of my neighbors are Canadians. Canadian citizens, NOT permanent US residents. They have Canadian "permanent addresses" and a "vacation home" in the US. They work in Canada. Do you think anyone counts how many nights they sleep where? Where do they "live"? US or Canada? Many Americans in this area have vacation homes or ski condos in Quebec. Where do THEY "live". There is no prohibition against a Canadian (or anyone else for that matter) from owning or renting property in the US. The only problem comes in when you want to work, go to school, etc. A Canadian who wants to work in Montreal (or many in south shore suburban Montreal industries and businesses) and sleep, shop for groceries and relax on their deck in Vermont has no particular problem at all.

That all may be true but do you see what the poster is suggesting? That one can live in the US without immigrating if the person lives in Canada? That IMO is tantamount to saying "don't worry about immigration, you can live with your GF without it!" . Don't you think if that were really going to work that the majority of us with Canadian spouses would have done this and not bothered with doing immigration? To me it seems this guy is advocating something not quite right...and I just felt it was bad advice.

Just my opinion of course.

[Boiler 45,479]

I can think of quite a few non Canadians who have effectively lived and worked in the US on a visitor basis.

Many of them got burned or decided that the continuing risk was too great.

Many retired Canadians spend 6 months in Florida, 6 months in Canada. But they are not US resident.

[KarenCee 3]

I can think of quite a few non Canadians who have effectively lived and worked in the US on a visitor basis.

Many of them got burned or decided that the continuing risk was too great.

Many retired Canadians spend 6 months in Florida, 6 months in Canada. But they are not US resident.

To the OP: is it worth the risk?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It is actually very easy to move (not "immigrate") to the US if you are from Canada (It is harder to move to Canada if you are a USC, but not that much). In any event, if you are students, that is the easiest option. If you are not actually considering marriage, the other option--IF YOU DO NOT WORK--is to leave the country and have your passport stamped (just to be safe) before the expiry of the 90 days (I thought Canada had more time... you should check the VWP site). This also would work for the USC going to Canada. I had close friends (both Canadian) the husband got a work visa in the US, but the wife couldn't for about 5 years. During that whole time they lived in the US, but she and her kids regularly returned to Canada in order not to violate US immigration laws. Depending on where you live (close to the border--going to Mexico works too) and whether the citizen can/is willing to support the other, it is not that hard.

I won't go into work visas because (esp. in this economy) it is getting more and more difficult to find employers to sponsor you unless you really have something important/good to offer or are very highly trained (doctor, lawyer, exec, etc.), I had 2 employment sponsorships cancelled in the last month.

Could you provide links to back up what you're saying? Not sure how you get the idea that it's easy to move here (you seem to insinuate one can live here without immigrating) from Canada. Yes, the student visa is an option as long as he or she is accepted into university here. Just wondered where you are getting your information. Without documetation this advice (IMHO) isn't good advice at all.

I cannot, but I can tell you this. I live on an island in Lake Champlain 6 miles from Canada and many of my neighbors are Canadians. Canadian citizens, NOT permanent US residents. They have Canadian "permanent addresses" and a "vacation home" in the US. They work in Canada. Do you think anyone counts how many nights they sleep where? Where do they "live"? US or Canada? Many Americans in this area have vacation homes or ski condos in Quebec. Where do THEY "live". There is no prohibition against a Canadian (or anyone else for that matter) from owning or renting property in the US. The only problem comes in when you want to work, go to school, etc. A Canadian who wants to work in Montreal (or many in south shore suburban Montreal industries and businesses) and sleep, shop for groceries and relax on their deck in Vermont has no particular problem at all.

That all may be true but do you see what the poster is suggesting? That one can live in the US without immigrating if the person lives in Canada? That IMO is tantamount to saying "don't worry about immigration, you can live with your GF without it!" . Don't you think if that were really going to work that the majority of us with Canadian spouses would have done this and not bothered with doing immigration? To me it seems this guy is advocating something not quite right...and I just felt it was bad advice.

Just my opinion of course.

well I was just stating a case. It works one pretty well when you live within commuting distance of a major Canadian city. Probably wouldn't work so good for a Canadian in love with an American in Missouri or something. At any rate, it is possible to have a residence in both places and "live" in both places without immigrating (or working or going to school).

What the OP proposes is not going to work too well as there are no "boyfriend" visas. They either need to commit to getting married or he needs to apply for a student visa, work visa or just for a diversity lottery visa, like anyone else. Having a friend in the US isn't going to help.

[richardvp 0]

hey guys thanks for the info wuts this lottery visa that you are talking about? She lives in cali and i live in Vancouver and it cost 400$ round trip for a plan tickect and we cant afford doing this alot on a students budget please guide us on the right path and the easiest path to get to be together we need to be inspired thanks.