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QUOTE (RenataAndDave @ Sep 6 2009, 09:37 PM) Thank you for your advice and suggestions.Yes,I read about your experience with evaluating your diplomas C&D and to be honest that made me a bit worried and shocked because I cannot imagine how the same degree may be evaluated in a different way by different evaluating institutions!

Well ECE has a diploma equivalency pattern from 1994 to evaluate diplomas from France. This organization doesn't recognize the educational reforms that happened in Europe in 2004. WES does so i was able to get an accurate and up to date evaluation, especially for my master's degree.

I understand that requesting transcripts to be sent directly to WES is a PAIN ("To be sent directly to WES by the institutions attended in an envelope bearing the institution's seal or stamp and/or an appropriate signature across the sealed flap".) but in my case it was totally worth the wait and the extra work/time and money.

With WES you can translate the documents yourself (word for word translation).

I wouldn't recommend Joseph Silny for Polish documents especially for the evaluation of master's degrees, as they do NOT recognize the Bologna Process

Good Luck!!

was your master degree evaluated properly? did you also get the same equivalent in USA system?

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was your master degree evaluated properly? did you also get the same equivalent in USA system?

Yes my master's degree was evaluated properly by WES. I was given an MA equivalent in the US system.

Good Luck!

2007-09-17 --> Met in France

2007-10-11 --> <3

2008-09-10 --> Got married!

USCIS Journey

2009-01-31 --> I-130 application sent via fedex to Chicago lockbox

2009-02-02 --> I-130 received by USCIS

2009-02-05 --> Notice of Action (NOA1)

2009-02-07 --> Notice of Action (NOA1) hardcopy received in the mail

2009-02-09 --> Request for Expedite

2009-02-09/10/16/18/20 --> Touched

2009-02-26 --> Phone call from WY congresswoman's office: I-130 petition approved (NOA2)!!

2009-02-27 --> Touched (case mailed to NVC?)

2009-03-02 --> NOA2 hardcopy in the mail

NVC Journey

2009-03-13 --> Case # assigned

2009-03-15 --> Request for expedite

2009-03-19 --> DS-3032 generated

2009-03-19 --> DS-3032 sent (e-mail)

2009-03-19 --> AOS and IV fees PAID (money order) (as per NVC supervisor's instructions)

2009-03-20 --> AOS package and DS-230 sent to NVC (as per NVC supervisor's instructions)

2009-04-13 --> Case complete at NVC

Embassy Journey

2009-04-14 --> Forward the case to Embassy in Paris, France

2009-04-30 --> Medical (PASSED!)

2009-04-30 --> Visa Interview - APPROVED!!

2009-05-04 --> Visa in Hand

2009-05-12 --> POE (Chicago)

2009-06-26 --> Green Card arrived in the mail!!

ROC

2011-03-16 --> ROC packet sent

2011-04-14 --> Biometrics appointment in Denver, CO

2011-05-27 --> Notification of approval in the mail (actual decision on the 24th)

2011-05-31 --> 10 year green card in the mail! (sent on the 25th)

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Yes my master's degree was evaluated properly by WES. I was given an MA equivalent in the US system.

Good Luck!

wow good for you! I wonder which one is better ece or wes? Coz I see less trouble with ece, but not sure which evaluates more accurately? Any ideas?

USCIS journey
07/30/2010 I-130 sent
08/13/2010 NOA1
11/02/2010 Transferred to TSC
01/13/2011 NOA2 (approved in 5 months and 2 days since NOA1)
01/21/2011 Received hard copy of NOA2
USCIS journey completed in 155 days [165 days since priority date]

02/08/2011 TSC shipped approved petition to NVC

NVC journey (after 1 months and 5 days since approval)
02/17/2011 NVC case number assigned & invoice number given
02/18/2011 Emailed DS-3032
02/23/2011 Paid AOS
02/24/2011 DS-3032 accepted, received confirmation email.
02/24/2011 AOS fee marked as PAID
02/25/2011 AOS package sent
02/25/2011 IV fee invoiced and paid
02/28/2011 IV marked as paid, IV package sent
03/15/2011 SIF!!!
03/16/2011 Case complete!
03/25/2011 Interview date assigned
04/11/2011 Medical- DONE!!!!
05/10/2011 Interview - approved!
05/12/2011 Visa received by courier
06/06/2011 POE Dublin
07/05/2011 Welcome letter received
07/25/2011 Received GREEN CARD!
08/01/2011 Social security by mail
11/09/2011 Driver licence in hand! Wooo hooo wink.png

ROC
15/04/2013 ROC docs sent to Vermont

03/05/2013 NOA1 received

05/10/2013 Biometrics letter received

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wow good for you! I wonder which one is better ece or wes? Coz I see less trouble with ece, but not sure which evaluates more accurately? Any ideas?

In my case WES evaluated my diplomas accurately, following up-to-date evaluation patterns (to know what i'm talking about, i retrieved those links from a previous thread: Evaluation of European Diploma Rip-off and Bologna process). ECE was indeed less of a pain to deal with, but they gave me an evaluation report that was all but accurate, and after numerous phonecalls and internet research, I found out their evaluation patterns were from 1994 or earlier. My MA was evaluated as a BA through ECE! I would STRONGLY suggest you to go through WES to get your transcripts evaluated as this is the only organization (i've heard of) that recognizes the Bologna Process.

Hope this helps!

2007-09-17 --> Met in France

2007-10-11 --> <3

2008-09-10 --> Got married!

USCIS Journey

2009-01-31 --> I-130 application sent via fedex to Chicago lockbox

2009-02-02 --> I-130 received by USCIS

2009-02-05 --> Notice of Action (NOA1)

2009-02-07 --> Notice of Action (NOA1) hardcopy received in the mail

2009-02-09 --> Request for Expedite

2009-02-09/10/16/18/20 --> Touched

2009-02-26 --> Phone call from WY congresswoman's office: I-130 petition approved (NOA2)!!

2009-02-27 --> Touched (case mailed to NVC?)

2009-03-02 --> NOA2 hardcopy in the mail

NVC Journey

2009-03-13 --> Case # assigned

2009-03-15 --> Request for expedite

2009-03-19 --> DS-3032 generated

2009-03-19 --> DS-3032 sent (e-mail)

2009-03-19 --> AOS and IV fees PAID (money order) (as per NVC supervisor's instructions)

2009-03-20 --> AOS package and DS-230 sent to NVC (as per NVC supervisor's instructions)

2009-04-13 --> Case complete at NVC

Embassy Journey

2009-04-14 --> Forward the case to Embassy in Paris, France

2009-04-30 --> Medical (PASSED!)

2009-04-30 --> Visa Interview - APPROVED!!

2009-05-04 --> Visa in Hand

2009-05-12 --> POE (Chicago)

2009-06-26 --> Green Card arrived in the mail!!

ROC

2011-03-16 --> ROC packet sent

2011-04-14 --> Biometrics appointment in Denver, CO

2011-05-27 --> Notification of approval in the mail (actual decision on the 24th)

2011-05-31 --> 10 year green card in the mail! (sent on the 25th)

**Done with USCIS till 2021**

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In my case WES evaluated my diplomas accurately, following up-to-date evaluation patterns (to know what i'm talking about, i retrieved those links from a previous thread: Evaluation of European Diploma Rip-off and Bologna process). ECE was indeed less of a pain to deal with, but they gave me an evaluation report that was all but accurate, and after numerous phonecalls and internet research, I found out their evaluation patterns were from 1994 or earlier. My MA was evaluated as a BA through ECE! I would STRONGLY suggest you to go through WES to get your transcripts evaluated as this is the only organization (i've heard of) that recognizes the Bologna Process.

Hope this helps!

Thank you so much for your prompt reply! I also read online some people were very disappointed with WES, so I am really confused. I like that ECE replies prompt to e-mails, while WES, i wrote them several days ago but still have no answer...

Could you please tell me when did you use WES and ECE? Was it long time ago? And when you request those documents at your university, should they be in English or in local language? Because my university can provide them just in Lithuanian, so I don't know if that's ok for WES?

I wrote to ECE an email today and asked about Bologna process and this is what they replied to me:

Good Afternoon,

Thank you for your message.

Yes, our trained evaluators are aware of the Bologna process.

If you have further questions, please contact us.

Sincerely,

ECE®

Educational Credential Evaluators, Inc.

USCIS journey
07/30/2010 I-130 sent
08/13/2010 NOA1
11/02/2010 Transferred to TSC
01/13/2011 NOA2 (approved in 5 months and 2 days since NOA1)
01/21/2011 Received hard copy of NOA2
USCIS journey completed in 155 days [165 days since priority date]

02/08/2011 TSC shipped approved petition to NVC

NVC journey (after 1 months and 5 days since approval)
02/17/2011 NVC case number assigned & invoice number given
02/18/2011 Emailed DS-3032
02/23/2011 Paid AOS
02/24/2011 DS-3032 accepted, received confirmation email.
02/24/2011 AOS fee marked as PAID
02/25/2011 AOS package sent
02/25/2011 IV fee invoiced and paid
02/28/2011 IV marked as paid, IV package sent
03/15/2011 SIF!!!
03/16/2011 Case complete!
03/25/2011 Interview date assigned
04/11/2011 Medical- DONE!!!!
05/10/2011 Interview - approved!
05/12/2011 Visa received by courier
06/06/2011 POE Dublin
07/05/2011 Welcome letter received
07/25/2011 Received GREEN CARD!
08/01/2011 Social security by mail
11/09/2011 Driver licence in hand! Wooo hooo wink.png

ROC
15/04/2013 ROC docs sent to Vermont

03/05/2013 NOA1 received

05/10/2013 Biometrics letter received

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Thank you so much for your prompt reply! I also read online some people were very disappointed with WES, so I am really confused. I like that ECE replies prompt to e-mails, while WES, i wrote them several days ago but still have no answer...

Could you please tell me when did you use WES and ECE? Was it long time ago? And when you request those documents at your university, should they be in English or in local language? Because my university can provide them just in Lithuanian, so I don't know if that's ok for WES?

I wrote to ECE an email today and asked about Bologna process and this is what they replied to me:

Good Afternoon,

Thank you for your message.

Yes, our trained evaluators are aware of the Bologna process.

If you have further questions, please contact us.

Sincerely,

ECE®

Educational Credential Evaluators, Inc.

I used ECE in april 2009 and WES in july 2009. I had also read bad reviews about WES but turned to them as they were the only option I had to get an accurate evaluation report, at the time. ECE was for me a waste of money and time.

No translation needed for the transcripts. Mine were directly sent to WES in French as requested. Check HERE for requirements and process for Lithuania.

ECE was not aware of the Bologna Process last year, but they *might* have updated their evaluation patterns.

2007-09-17 --> Met in France

2007-10-11 --> <3

2008-09-10 --> Got married!

USCIS Journey

2009-01-31 --> I-130 application sent via fedex to Chicago lockbox

2009-02-02 --> I-130 received by USCIS

2009-02-05 --> Notice of Action (NOA1)

2009-02-07 --> Notice of Action (NOA1) hardcopy received in the mail

2009-02-09 --> Request for Expedite

2009-02-09/10/16/18/20 --> Touched

2009-02-26 --> Phone call from WY congresswoman's office: I-130 petition approved (NOA2)!!

2009-02-27 --> Touched (case mailed to NVC?)

2009-03-02 --> NOA2 hardcopy in the mail

NVC Journey

2009-03-13 --> Case # assigned

2009-03-15 --> Request for expedite

2009-03-19 --> DS-3032 generated

2009-03-19 --> DS-3032 sent (e-mail)

2009-03-19 --> AOS and IV fees PAID (money order) (as per NVC supervisor's instructions)

2009-03-20 --> AOS package and DS-230 sent to NVC (as per NVC supervisor's instructions)

2009-04-13 --> Case complete at NVC

Embassy Journey

2009-04-14 --> Forward the case to Embassy in Paris, France

2009-04-30 --> Medical (PASSED!)

2009-04-30 --> Visa Interview - APPROVED!!

2009-05-04 --> Visa in Hand

2009-05-12 --> POE (Chicago)

2009-06-26 --> Green Card arrived in the mail!!

ROC

2011-03-16 --> ROC packet sent

2011-04-14 --> Biometrics appointment in Denver, CO

2011-05-27 --> Notification of approval in the mail (actual decision on the 24th)

2011-05-31 --> 10 year green card in the mail! (sent on the 25th)

**Done with USCIS till 2021**

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why did you decide to use wes? did some university or institution suggested you to do so? Now i see there are many other companies that evaluate diplomas... I wonder is there any other better than wes and ece? http://www.naces.org/members.htm

USCIS journey
07/30/2010 I-130 sent
08/13/2010 NOA1
11/02/2010 Transferred to TSC
01/13/2011 NOA2 (approved in 5 months and 2 days since NOA1)
01/21/2011 Received hard copy of NOA2
USCIS journey completed in 155 days [165 days since priority date]

02/08/2011 TSC shipped approved petition to NVC

NVC journey (after 1 months and 5 days since approval)
02/17/2011 NVC case number assigned & invoice number given
02/18/2011 Emailed DS-3032
02/23/2011 Paid AOS
02/24/2011 DS-3032 accepted, received confirmation email.
02/24/2011 AOS fee marked as PAID
02/25/2011 AOS package sent
02/25/2011 IV fee invoiced and paid
02/28/2011 IV marked as paid, IV package sent
03/15/2011 SIF!!!
03/16/2011 Case complete!
03/25/2011 Interview date assigned
04/11/2011 Medical- DONE!!!!
05/10/2011 Interview - approved!
05/12/2011 Visa received by courier
06/06/2011 POE Dublin
07/05/2011 Welcome letter received
07/25/2011 Received GREEN CARD!
08/01/2011 Social security by mail
11/09/2011 Driver licence in hand! Wooo hooo wink.png

ROC
15/04/2013 ROC docs sent to Vermont

03/05/2013 NOA1 received

05/10/2013 Biometrics letter received

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why did you decide to use wes? did some university or institution suggested you to do so? Now i see there are many other companies that evaluate diplomas... I wonder is there any other better than wes and ece? http://www.naces.org/members.htm

I am a teacher and WES was the only company recognizing the Bologna Process in the list provided by the Board of Education of my state, so i could get a teaching certification.

Make sure the company you pick is accepted by the university/company/school district/... you're doing this for.

2007-09-17 --> Met in France

2007-10-11 --> <3

2008-09-10 --> Got married!

USCIS Journey

2009-01-31 --> I-130 application sent via fedex to Chicago lockbox

2009-02-02 --> I-130 received by USCIS

2009-02-05 --> Notice of Action (NOA1)

2009-02-07 --> Notice of Action (NOA1) hardcopy received in the mail

2009-02-09 --> Request for Expedite

2009-02-09/10/16/18/20 --> Touched

2009-02-26 --> Phone call from WY congresswoman's office: I-130 petition approved (NOA2)!!

2009-02-27 --> Touched (case mailed to NVC?)

2009-03-02 --> NOA2 hardcopy in the mail

NVC Journey

2009-03-13 --> Case # assigned

2009-03-15 --> Request for expedite

2009-03-19 --> DS-3032 generated

2009-03-19 --> DS-3032 sent (e-mail)

2009-03-19 --> AOS and IV fees PAID (money order) (as per NVC supervisor's instructions)

2009-03-20 --> AOS package and DS-230 sent to NVC (as per NVC supervisor's instructions)

2009-04-13 --> Case complete at NVC

Embassy Journey

2009-04-14 --> Forward the case to Embassy in Paris, France

2009-04-30 --> Medical (PASSED!)

2009-04-30 --> Visa Interview - APPROVED!!

2009-05-04 --> Visa in Hand

2009-05-12 --> POE (Chicago)

2009-06-26 --> Green Card arrived in the mail!!

ROC

2011-03-16 --> ROC packet sent

2011-04-14 --> Biometrics appointment in Denver, CO

2011-05-27 --> Notification of approval in the mail (actual decision on the 24th)

2011-05-31 --> 10 year green card in the mail! (sent on the 25th)

**Done with USCIS till 2021**

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