Ever feel like slapping someone elses child?

[Marilyn. 340]

I take it a lot of you have not spent a lot of time around 2 year olds...

[LoriLawless 0]

I take it a lot of you have not spent a lot of time around 2 year olds...

Seriously

[Danno 1,228]

When it pertains to the behaviour of a 2 year old, I think a lot of the comments come from non parents. What is so bad about a two year old crying? It happens, they do that and slapping one when it is doing it is not going to make it stop.

Actually it can.

They cry hard for like five minutes after the spank feel worn out and either stop crying or pass out.

[Heracles 417]

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This guy is my hero. I will post bail for him if he asks.

If the guy wants any cash for a legal defense, I'm in.

I could almost agree with you except for the bolded part.

Its one thing to slap a kid like ScottThuy said, to make a point, and another to slap a little girl 4-5 times.

Once I read the entire article, I agree his actions against this toddler were excessive. He could have simply told her off. I think people are just sick and tired of parents who put their kids on a pedestal and act as if the world revolves around then. Parents who endorse and indirectly promote their kids to not care about their impact on other people around them.

But that is also a generation thing. If my neighbor, teach, principal or another adult told me off for misbehaving, my parents would have endorsed it. Heck my parents used to tell my teacher, "twist his ear of he does not calm down or shutup". It was basically an unwritten code, almost like tag team parenting. Nowadays, the parents will want to start a fight just for telling a child to behave, "how dare you bla bla bla".. So naturally people are sick to death of that. This lack of discipline and respect for others is why we have shows like the nanny in 2009. But knowing this I would have shove my foot up the parents azz rather than a kid who does not know any better.

Edited September 3, 2009 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

I also hope nobody dares throw out the you don't know what is wrong with this child because every second kid seems to be autistic in the US. Yes there are kids who genuinely have medical issues; however, it seems autism is now the new ADHD. Never bad or negligent parenting of course.

One guy loses it and strikes a child, how dare he bla bla bla. Yet thousands of kids are abused or neglected each year by their own parents but that is justified as freedom of choice. Unfortunately, in the long-term people like myself end up having to literally pay for these parent's choices or lack of. Funny how I don't get a choice with that but the parent sure as hell does.

Edited September 3, 2009 by Booyah!

[LoriLawless 0]

Yeah just look how nice he looks Has to be the mom's fault her little baby was crying.

[Danno 1,228]

I'll tell you what's the most pathetic sight, is to watch a grown man beg a child to listen, offering one New-wave phrase after the next trying to get control.

"Johnny it's time for bed now, lets put the toys away"

"You're not being a good listener"

"Daddy's not happy with you"

"You're not being a good listener"

"Daddy said it's time for bed now"

"Daddy Doesn't like it when you don't listen"

"Do you want Daddy to put you in time-out?"

"You are giving Daddy a sad-face"

" Johnny, do you hear me?"

"I have a special treat if you come to bed, lookie YUM,YUM"

Poppa Danno's sure-fire method.

"Did I say it was Bed-time?"

"I'm counting to ten, anyone not tucked in bed waiting for a story is gonna have a cherry red Azz."

(kids flying down the hall)

* it works, if you mean it.

[Heracles 417]

Poppa Danno's sure-fire method.

"Did I say it was Bed-time?"

"I'm counting to ten, anyone not tucked in bed waiting for a story is gonna have a cherry red Azz."

(kids flying down the hall)

* it works, if you mean it.

Strange that this method that has worked for 5,000 years is no longer acceptable.

Too many parents trying to be their kids friends. Aka trying to live vicariously through their child.

Anyone noticed any graffiti on the pyramids or the Parthenon? I wonder why..

[GabiandVi 34]

I take it a lot of you have not spent a lot of time around 2 year olds...

Seriously

Agreed! I cannot believe the ignorance of the statements being made here. They sound like my uncle who has never had children himself but knows how to be a good parent and is willing to tell anyone who doesn't want to listen.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Poppa Danno's sure-fire method.

"Did I say it was Bed-time?"

"I'm counting to ten, anyone not tucked in bed waiting for a story is gonna have a cherry red Azz."

(kids flying down the hall)

* it works, if you mean it.

Strange that this method that has worked for 5,000 years is no longer acceptable.

Too many parents trying to be their kids friends. Aka trying to live vicariously through their child.

Anyone noticed any graffiti on the pyramids or the Parthenon? I wonder why..

Probably because they didn't have spray cans in the bronze age.

They did have chisels however, and yes - there is grafitti

It was pretty notorious in ancient Rome of course. But when it was perfectly permissable to buy and rape slaves (of any age), I find it difficult that anyone could seriously argue that parenting was any better in such an age...

[GabiandVi 34]

I also hope nobody dares throw out the you don't know what is wrong with this child because every second kid seems to be autistic in the US. Yes there are kids who genuinely have medical issues; however, it seems autism is now the new ADHD. Never bad or negligent parenting of course.

One guy loses it and strikes a child, how dare he bla bla bla. Yet thousands of kids are abused or neglected each year by their own parents but that is justified as freedom of choice. Unfortunately, in the long-term people like myself end up having to literally pay for these parent's choices or lack of. Funny how I don't get a choice with that but the parent sure as hell does.

First of all, I won't address the broad, baseless generalization that you have made about "American" children. But what does this man's action have to do with child abuse or neglect by legal guardians? They are totally separate issues. Parental child abuse does not excuse child abuse by strangers. That's called criminal assault. This is not a minor or humorous issue. NO ONE has the right to strike a stranger's two-year-old. Think about that for just two seconds. TWO-YEAR-OLD! Do any of you supporting this action have any concept of what that means? TWO-YEARS-OLD. A year ago, they weren't walking. Two years ago, all they could do was sleep, eat, ######, and cry. A lot of two-year-olds aren't even verbal. For GOD'S sake, consider what you are laughing about.

Edited September 3, 2009 by GabiandVi

[Heracles 417]

NO ONE has the right to strike a stranger's two-year-old. Think about that for just two seconds. TWO-YEAR-OLD! Do any of you supporting this action have any concept of what that means? TWO-YEARS-OLD. A year ago, they weren't walking. Two years ago, all they could do was sleep, eat, ######, and cry. A lot of two-year-olds aren't even verbal. For GOD'S sake, consider what you are laughing about.

I thought I addressed that here.

Once I read the entire article, I agree his actions against this toddler were excessive. He could have simply told her off. I think people are just sick and tired of parents who put their kids on a pedestal and act as if the world revolves around then. Parents who endorse and indirectly promote their kids to not care about their impact on other people around them.

But that is also a generation thing. If my neighbor, teach, principal or another adult told me off for misbehaving, my parents would have endorsed it. Heck my parents used to tell my teacher, "twist his ear of he does not calm down or shutup". It was basically an unwritten code, almost like tag team parenting. Nowadays, the parents will want to start a fight just for telling a child to behave, "how dare you bla bla bla".. So naturally people are sick to death of that. This lack of discipline and respect for others is why we have shows like the nanny in 2009. But knowing this I would have shove my foot up the parents azz rather than a kid who does not know any better.

[Danno 1,228]

Poppa Danno's sure-fire method.

"Did I say it was Bed-time?"

"I'm counting to ten, anyone not tucked in bed waiting for a story is gonna have a cherry red Azz."

(kids flying down the hall)

* it works, if you mean it.

Strange that this method that has worked for 5,000 years is no longer acceptable.

Too many parents trying to be their kids friends. Aka trying to live vicariously through their child.

Anyone noticed any graffiti on the pyramids or the Parthenon? I wonder why..

I have actually seen parents using these "communication techniques" as the kid is slapping the parent in the face.

There is a Family psychologist John Rosemond’s website: www.rosemond.com

I used to enjoy his columns when I took the new paper.

He is very practical and debunks a lot of the BS that so commonly gets passed off as "parental advice" by his peers.

He even has a free newsletter by email.

Here is his latest posting this week about "adoption specialists" in his field.

Living with Children

John Rosemond

Copyright 2009, John K. Rosemond

As a psychologist, I am a member of what is called the “helping professions.” The term is generally accurate­—most of us are helpful, most of the time. Nonetheless, it conceals the fact that when all is said and done, mental health care is a business. As such, entrepreneurial mental health professionals are no different than other businesspeople: they try to create new “products” and new markets. An example is the relatively new field of “adoption specialist.” The not-so-implicit message behind this specialty: adoption is a special circumstance fraught with psychological IEDs that cannot be negotiated properly without a constant vigilance; thus, the need for a specially-trained professional to guide one through the adoption minefield.

I recently spoke with the parents of a 3-year-old whom they adopted from overseas shortly after she was born. Since then, several adoption specialists have told them that a rather nebulous condition called “attachment disorder” is an ever-present threat to their child’s mental health. Apparently, her primary attachment is to her biological mother, even after three years. According to said professionals, she remembers her mother’s face, smell, and voice, and there is a part of her psyche that is constantly grieving the loss. This unresolved (unresolvable?) issue manifests itself in anxieties, fears, shyness, temper tantrums, defiance, moodiness, and other behaviors associated with normal toddlerhood.

The little girl’s parents have no reason to think that people with capital letters after their names are pulling things out of thin air, so this barrage of misinformation has kept them in a perpetual state of anxiety. They have come to see the issue of their daughter’s adoption behind every imperfect behavior. In addition, they’ve been told that they should make every effort to compensate for the child’s ever-present attachment issues, including allowing her to occupy the marital bed. When she misbehaves, they don’t know whether to respond with understanding or discipline. Consequently, their attempts to discipline are generally ineffective. While they were talking with me, the mother’s turmoil was especially evident. She exerted great effort to keep from sobbing.

These parents are not alone. Over the years, I’ve spoken to numerous adoptive parents who have received similar apocalyptic, anxiety-arousing information and advice from adoption specialists. To be fair, I’ve also met adoption specialists who do not hold to these views, but they testify to being in the minority and to not being well-received by their peers.

The facts: A consistent body of hard, objectively-gathered scientific evidence to the effect that adopted children are more prone to psychological problems than children who live with one or two biological parents is lacking. On the other hand, there is significant evidence to the effect that even orphaned children exposed during their early, supposedly “formative” years to severe conditions of emotional deprivation and material neglect recover quite nicely when adopted by loving parents. For more on the subject, I highly recommend Dr. John Bruer’s The Myth of the First Three Years (The Free Press, 1999). An excellent related article can be found at http://www.gladwell.com/2000/2000_01_10_a_baby.htm.

The unscientific claims being disseminated by certain adoption specialists does no measurable good for adopted children and presents the potential of doing significant emotional harm to adoptive parents, the parents above being a case in point. As we are given to say in North Carolina, “It just ain’t right.”

Family psychologist John Rosemond’s website: www.rosemond.com

[Danno 1,228]

I also hope nobody dares throw out the you don't know what is wrong with this child because every second kid seems to be autistic in the US. Yes there are kids who genuinely have medical issues; however, it seems autism is now the new ADHD. Never bad or negligent parenting of course.

One guy loses it and strikes a child, how dare he bla bla bla. Yet thousands of kids are abused or neglected each year by their own parents but that is justified as freedom of choice. Unfortunately, in the long-term people like myself end up having to literally pay for these parent's choices or lack of. Funny how I don't get a choice with that but the parent sure as hell does.

First of all, I won't address the broad, baseless generalization that you have made about "American" children. But what does this man's action have to do with child abuse or neglect by legal guardians? They are totally separate issues. Parental child abuse does not excuse child abuse by strangers. That's called criminal assault. This is not a minor or humorous issue. NO ONE has the right to strike a stranger's two-year-old. Think about that for just two seconds. TWO-YEAR-OLD! Do any of you supporting this action have any concept of what that means? TWO-YEARS-OLD. A year ago, they weren't walking. Two years ago, all they could do was sleep, eat, ######, and cry. A lot of two-year-olds aren't even verbal. For GOD'S sake, consider what you are laughing about.

Easy Momma Bear

I don't think anyone was "supporting" what that guy did.

It's a pity that little crybaby didn't have you for a mom.... I am betting the would have needed a cop and ambulance.

[Heracles 417]

Probably because they didn't have spray cans in the bronze age.

They did have chisels however, and yes - there is grafitti

It was pretty notorious in ancient Rome of course. But when it was perfectly permissable to buy and rape slaves (of any age), I find it difficult that anyone could seriously argue that parenting was any better in such an age...

Ah okay. How about 30 or 40 years ago then?

You don't agree with anyone presenting experience of their own or that of others from 20, 30 or 40 years ago; however, you are first to generalize yourself by stating that parenting is as good as it's ever been. Strange, considering the recent report of the huge increase in the number of unwed and single mothers trying to raise kids. You're basically insinuating that the possibility of a change in attitude and culture is slim, or even non-existent. 50 years ago the US had segregation now it does not. And that is an enormous shift in culture and attitude. Yet I am expected to believe that something such as parenting, has not changed an inch. The attitude and culture alone has change so much over the last few decades. Therefore, it's not that hard to see how parenting skills or lack of could have changed too.

Are there still great parents? yes.

Are there noticeably more bad or negligent parents? in my experience yes. Maybe your experience from the UK differs to that of my own.