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I do have questions about the OP--How on earth did that guy manage to get FIVE slaps in?

Why didn't the mother intervene after the 1st one?

I thought the same thing myself. But maybe she was picking something from a shelf and wasn't looking. Although I believe in disciplining our kids, I would beat the sh!t out of that guy if it was my child.

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Spanking is really not a very useful tool in discipline, that's why people don't use it any more. Most spanking was/is to satisfy the frustration of the adult - it does not teach a child anything.

OF course we disagree :)

Spanking does work and maybe the people you know don't use it but many do.

Lashing out with a spanking in anger will not have near the good effect as calm... measured action.

I think it's also a good idea to rationally decide what type of offenses warrant a spanking.

For me it was, direct disobedience. For most other "infractions" I have other creative ways to MAKE THEM PAY.

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OH dear god in heaven..... why do you do this to me. I actually agree with danno on this. As much as it pains me. Spankings do work in my opinion and my experience. However, lashing out at a child in anger is selfishly satisfying your own rage. I received several spankings when I was a kid and can honestly admit that I deserved each and every one. My father never did it in anger, and would always explain to me why I got it, and more importantly, what would happen if I did it again.

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Spanking is really not a very useful tool in discipline, that's why people don't use it any more. Most spanking was/is to satisfy the frustration of the adult - it does not teach a child anything.

I respectfully disagree. It was a very effective on my parents when done by my grandparents. It was very effective on me and my brother when done by my parents... and having had children, having gone through the trials and hurdles, obstacles, and clever attempts to outwit the seemingly endless energy of a toddler... sometimes you have to have more than just a promise or a removal of a favorite toy in your arsenal. Kids test how far they can go. They see which reactions are "I can get around this if I press hard" and which are "ok, never gonna do that again" type of activities. A lecture is one punishment. Removal of toys, treats, activities, is another... and sometimes, a spank on the rear is needed.

Trust me, when you are going through your arsenal of tools to try and still the behavior, you will consider it all and choose what works best at that moment.

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I agree with Dannos post too Naked Surf. And Madame Cleo (I think, I apologize if it was someone elses post!!) said that she thought most of us here that were pro-spanking were probably spanked as kids. And for the record I am only pro-spanking SOMETIMES! I don't have kids yet so who knows exactly what I will do....although as of now I think I will use spanking sometimes....maybe...undecided!. My parents are hard core hippies and I was never spanked not even one time, ever. They used the time out method, discounting money from our allowance method, taking away toys etc method...and nothing seemed to work. Me and my brothers were terrible kids and really disrespected our parents -something I regret. My bothers are still disrespect my parents to a great deal and we just don't talk to our parents the way I think we should. I'm not saying that if my parents had spanked us we would be angels, I'm just saying that whatever they did, didn't work.

That being said, me and my brothers have a great relationship with my parents now and we did as children as well -we just weren't as respectful as I know I"d want my kids to be...but clearly my parents didn't mind so much.

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The funniest thing about all this, is that those who are rambling on and on about how badly behaved kids are 'nowadays' and how they need a good 'slapping' to straighten themout were almost certainly slapped as kids - but the question is, if that is the case, what were they slapped for? All that excellent behaviour? :lol:

I remember very clearly several occasions where I was punished. One time, I shouted and screamed at my brother how I hated him and how he was such a pain. My parents were very calm and told me to come outside in the backyard. My mother told me that it was completely wrong and inappropriate. That we never, ever say we hate a family member, that it was not our way. My father got a plastic ring that was from a yard dart set, unhooked it so that it wasn't a ring anymore, and then he spanked my butt, through the clothes with it. Yes, it was traumatic at the time, I realized how angry they were and how badly I had behaved. Let me tell you, I never, ever said that again to my brother, or anyone else for that matter. I believe "hate" to be a very strong word and should only be used in extreme situations when used against another person. I was in the 3rd or 4th grade.

I remember smarting off to my mother in the car, she whirled around cupped her hand and slapped me across the mouth. I was a tween/teen... and I rarely sassed my mother.

I remember telling a joke about my father and embarrassing him in front of other family members. He spanked me. That was my last spanking and I remember it clearly.

I have probably only spanked my children a handful of times, when they were too young for rational thought, logic, etc. And then, it was through diapers or cloths. One or two swats at most, always with open hand, never leaving a red mark. The action was so foreign to them it got their attention better than anything else.

My children never bit other children. They did not use pacifiers or blankets. They never got in trouble for hitting, slapping, or otherwise hurting another child. They are very well behaved for the most part. Honestly, they are usually at their worst when it's just me and then, and that's because my older daughter is embracing puberty and tweendome and we are in the mother/daughter "try not to kill each other" stage of development.

Just because someone chooses to use an alternative method to your own, doesn't necessarily make it better or worse. What matters most is that children learn morals, ethics, how to behave in social situations... and how to be decent, honorable adults. It is also important that they learn consequences for their actions. They have to learn that sometimes... doing something will have very unpleasant, uncomfortable, and sometimes harmful results. In my opinion, if they don't experience that as children, they will be unprepared for when it happens, (and it will) when they are out on their own. Childhood is all about learning.

I respect those people that have found their own way to raise their children to be decent, law-abiding, citizens. I might have just used a different path than the one they chose.

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The funniest thing about all this, is that those who are rambling on and on about how badly behaved kids are 'nowadays' and how they need a good 'slapping' to straighten themout were almost certainly slapped as kids - but the question is, if that is the case, what were they slapped for? All that excellent behaviour? :lol:

Well, you kind of have to screw up a few times before you figure out the right way to behave.

One time I broke all the eggs in the middle of the kitchen floor, wrote all over my wall with crayon, and unrolled all the toilet paper on the roller. All in the space of fifteen minutes while my mother was on the phone. That spanking was a real doozy.

Once I called my mother a nasty name and she slapped me. I said it again, a little quieter this time. I got slapped again. I whispered it and got slapped a third time. Then I cried and it was over.

My mother didn't spank or hit me very often but whenever it happened, it was memorable. I was a fairly good kid for most of my childhood. And a downright saint as a teenager. :lol:

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If someone followed me and my kid and hit my kid like that, I think I would be the one arrested for far worse than assault...

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If someone followed me and my kid and hit my kid like that, I think I would be the one arrested for far worse than assault...

Slapping someoen elses child is like getting between a grizzly bear and her cub....... except in this sitaution, the man that slapped the toddler probably forgot that in a store, quite often they have things like baseball bats and golf clubs.

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:lol: I think the easterbunny guy lives in my area. He looks familiar. I am generally against spanking (except my husband :innocent: ) especially when it comes to other people's kids. Spanking an infant/toddler for crying is just wrong. I would have killed he guy if he had touched my son.

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If someone followed me and my kid and hit my kid like that, I think I would be the one arrested for far worse than assault...

Slapping someoen elses child is like getting between a grizzly bear and her cub....... except in this sitaution, the man that slapped the toddler probably forgot that in a store, quite often they have things like baseball bats and golf clubs.

forget the sports section, I'm thinking the kitchen section, with all those knives and forks there :devil:

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I do have questions about the OP--How on earth did that guy manage to get FIVE slaps in?

Why didn't the mother intervene after the 1st one?

I thought the same thing myself. But maybe she was picking something from a shelf and wasn't looking. Although I believe in disciplining our kids, I would beat the sh!t out of that guy if it was my child.

well, in different news story about this incident I read , that he followed them into a different aisle and saw the kid was still crying and grabbed the kid and started slapping her.. I am sure the mother was in shock and maybe she didn't notice right away..

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