Problem with DS-156 K

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

The USC doesnt need a visa. If she is there ( here ) she wont be following you; she's in front of you. You dont need to list her.

I know she doesnt need a visa! lol. That isnt an issue. How sure are you that I neednt list her at all tho? It does say ALL children, regardless of where they are...

Because they are talking about the beneficiary, not the petitioner. You are the petitioner and therefore you do not list your children, only the beneficiary's children, in that age category.

The OP is the beneficiary, not the petitioner. The daughter is the child of the petitioner and the beneficiary, so the beneficiary will need to list her on his DS-156K as it says all children under the age of 21.

[WelshDave86 0]

The USC doesnt need a visa. If she is there ( here ) she wont be following you; she's in front of you. You dont need to list her.

I know she doesnt need a visa! lol. That isnt an issue. How sure are you that I neednt list her at all tho? It does say ALL children, regardless of where they are...

Because they are talking about the beneficiary, not the petitioner. You are the petitioner and therefore you do not list your children, only the beneficiary's children, in that age category.

I am the beneficiary - that's why I am filling the form out. If i've misunderstood please let me know!

[thepizzadude 26]

I have filled in my daughter's information but wasn't sure what to put for the next 2 parts - She WILL NOT be accompanying me, because she is already a USC and living with her mother; my fiancee, and she will then obviously NOT be following me - because she's there.

Ning, i'm not going to insult your intelligence because you have pretty much taken care of that. But quit trying to twist tangents to fit your lack of understanding of the question he asked.

Its pretty SIMPLE he said "I have filled in my daughter's information but wasn't sure what to put for the next 2 parts" & "Does this mean I shouldn't list her at all?"

The next 2 parts he is asking about are the 2 YES/NO questions. GET IT nowhere does he ask if he needs to list her again as you keep trying to say.

Reread the post and then go on back in the corner and sulk and browse.

[grinchus 11]

While we're at it, here's another question re DS-156: In question 36 it asks "Has anyone ever filed an immigrant visa petition on your behalf?" In my guidebook to filling this out it says to put "no." But I (the sponsor-fiancee) did file an I-129F for us, which is why I'm filling this form out.

So do I put "no" because this is a NON-immigrant visa application? Or do I put "yes" because we're in the process of this whole K-1 visa thing?

Confused!

[thepizzadude 26]

The USC doesnt need a visa. If she is there ( here ) she wont be following you; she's in front of you. You dont need to list her.

I know she doesnt need a visa! lol. That isnt an issue. How sure are you that I neednt list her at all tho? It does say ALL children, regardless of where they are...

Because they are talking about the beneficiary, not the petitioner. You are the petitioner and therefore you do not list your children, only the beneficiary's children, in that age category.

I am the beneficiary - that's why I am filling the form out. If i've misunderstood please let me know!

If she is your child then yes you have understood correctly and should list like you have. If she is your petitioners child by another marriage or ex of some kind then no you do not list her.

Good Luck

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

While we're at it, here's another question re DS-156: In question 36 it asks "Has anyone ever filed an immigrant visa petition on your behalf?" In my guidebook to filling this out it says to put "no." But I (the sponsor-fiancee) did file an I-129F for us, which is why I'm filling this form out.

So do I put "no" because this is a NON-immigrant visa application? Or do I put "yes" because we're in the process of this whole K-1 visa thing?

Confused!

Your guidebook is correct. The beneficiary should answer "no" to this question on the DS-156 UNLESS someone else has previously filed an immigrant visa petition on his/her behalf. While the K-1 visa presumes immigrant intent, it is technically speaking a non-immigrant visa. Hence, the I-129F is not an immigrant visa petition.

Edited September 1, 2009 by Stephen + Elisha

[Ning 619]

The USC doesnt need a visa. If she is there ( here ) she wont be following you; she's in front of you. You dont need to list her.

I guess I can not find a way to make this clear.

You said " I filled in my daughters information but wasnt sure what to put in the next two parts". I answered your questions about those " parts".

The answers to those "two parts" are common sense.

I can see my answer isnt clear to you. The question is simple if you let it be. If you have children list them. Then just use common sense as to the other " two parts" . You answered your own question in the post & then question your own understanding of the same answer.

I am stunned that you think you need to list her as following you if shes not going to. That is what your post is about.

Good luck with the rest of the journey.

Um... first you said don't list her, then you said don't list her as following you. It really wasn't clear the first time around.

To the OP: The form is pretty clear: List all children under the age of 21. She won't be accompanying you, and she won't be following you, so tick "No" for both. If you're concerned about it, you could write "See explanation on attached sheet" on the next line and attach a sheet explaining that your child is a US citizen and already living in the US—but this probably isn't necessary. It will already be clear from question 37 on the DS-156, "Are any of the following persons in the U.S., or do they have U.S. legal permanent residence or U.S. citizenship?"

To bad everyone can't just say "I was wrong in my original answer", It happens to everyone once in awhile. Instead we have to watch the hole digging and squirming. It's easier for me to say "OOPS" sorry I was wrong.

Hey Pizza boy stick with what you understand. Cheese & sauce.

You dont have to watch anything except the oven temp.

I'm not wrong. The answer I gave is correct.

Read what is written again & see if you can figure it out.

I'm sorry to see that all of this has got your knickers in a twist/panties in a bunch NING, but firstly I am a GUY! thats why it says BRITT & DYFED - i signed these posts as Dyfed!

Secondly - what do u mean I LISTED THE KID?? I added my daughters to the form as it requests i do so.

IT WAS YOU.. YES... YOU!! that said not to bother "listing" my daughter. I originally stated that i had put her on the forms and that I'd need to put NO for both answers. The other guys on here corroborated these facts and that i was correct to do so, so the matter is simply over. Why on earth you are trying to convince us that you meant something you clearly didnt say is beyond me. No one that has read your posts agreed with that you said.

Its really immature to think you had a go at Pizzadude when he was being light hearted and was clearly correct when he stated that you were wrong!!

What else do you want to say?? Just remember - we can READ what you have previously said so contradicting yourself is not going to get you anywhere.

You have made me laugh if anything, so thanks for that!

Just try to read what the next post ( Baron 55 ) says & try to understand.

I couldnt care less who or what you are. I dont need to " get any where". Unlike you I figured out how to do the simple forms myself a long time ago.

I answered you thinking you didnt need to be told what you told us; that you listed your kid. You dont really even need to do that if you really understand the form but I didnt want to say that.

You said you didnt understand the " second part ". You still dont but others have done the actual thinking for you & made you feel better.

Pizza man is commenting when he doesnt need to nor know what he is talking about & neither do you.

The idea here on V J is to try to offer info that is helpful. I am sorry I couldnt help.

[WelshDave86 0]

The USC doesnt need a visa. If she is there ( here ) she wont be following you; she's in front of you. You dont need to list her.

I guess I can not find a way to make this clear.

You said " I filled in my daughters information but wasnt sure what to put in the next two parts". I answered your questions about those " parts".

The answers to those "two parts" are common sense.

I can see my answer isnt clear to you. The question is simple if you let it be. If you have children list them. Then just use common sense as to the other " two parts" . You answered your own question in the post & then question your own understanding of the same answer.

I am stunned that you think you need to list her as following you if shes not going to. That is what your post is about.

Good luck with the rest of the journey.

Um... first you said don't list her, then you said don't list her as following you. It really wasn't clear the first time around.

To the OP: The form is pretty clear: List all children under the age of 21. She won't be accompanying you, and she won't be following you, so tick "No" for both. If you're concerned about it, you could write "See explanation on attached sheet" on the next line and attach a sheet explaining that your child is a US citizen and already living in the US—but this probably isn't necessary. It will already be clear from question 37 on the DS-156, "Are any of the following persons in the U.S., or do they have U.S. legal permanent residence or U.S. citizenship?"

To bad everyone can't just say "I was wrong in my original answer", It happens to everyone once in awhile. Instead we have to watch the hole digging and squirming. It's easier for me to say "OOPS" sorry I was wrong.

Hey Pizza boy stick with what you understand. Cheese & sauce.

You dont have to watch anything except the oven temp.

I'm not wrong. The answer I gave is correct.

Read what is written again & see if you can figure it out.

I'm sorry to see that all of this has got your knickers in a twist/panties in a bunch NING, but firstly I am a GUY! thats why it says BRITT & DYFED - i signed these posts as Dyfed!

Secondly - what do u mean I LISTED THE KID?? I added my daughters to the form as it requests i do so.

IT WAS YOU.. YES... YOU!! that said not to bother "listing" my daughter. I originally stated that i had put her on the forms and that I'd need to put NO for both answers. The other guys on here corroborated these facts and that i was correct to do so, so the matter is simply over. Why on earth you are trying to convince us that you meant something you clearly didnt say is beyond me. No one that has read your posts agreed with that you said.

Its really immature to think you had a go at Pizzadude when he was being light hearted and was clearly correct when he stated that you were wrong!!

What else do you want to say?? Just remember - we can READ what you have previously said so contradicting yourself is not going to get you anywhere.

You have made me laugh if anything, so thanks for that!

Just try to read what the next post ( Baron 55 ) says & try to understand.

I couldnt care less who or what you are. I dont need to " get any where". Unlike you I figured out how to do the simple forms myself a long time ago.

I answered you thinking you didnt need to be told what you told us; that you listed your kid. You dont really even need to do that if you really understand the form but I didnt want to say that.

You said you didnt understand the " second part ". You still dont but others have done the actual thinking for you & made you feel better.

Pizza man is commenting when he doesnt need to nor know what he is talking about & neither do you.

The idea here on V J is to try to offer info that is helpful. I am sorry I couldnt help.

What an idiot. I wrote on the forms EXACTLY as I originally said - just wanted to make sure I was right in doing so. Only idiots like you give bad advice.

The other guys have just reassured me thats all. I really don't know what you problem is.

In regards to my previous post, I said please forgive me if I've misunderstood in reference to the post not the form. It was actually pointless me asking the question in hindsight as I pretty much knew it was right but wanted to make sure - then all this happened lol

[thepizzadude 26]

Just try to read what the next post ( Baron 55 ) says & try to understand.

I couldnt care less who or what you are. I dont need to " get any where". Unlike you I figured out how to do the simple forms myself a long time ago.

I answered you thinking you didnt need to be told what you told us; that you listed your kid. You dont really even need to do that if you really understand the form but I didnt want to say that.

You said you didnt understand the " second part ". You still dont but others have done the actual thinking for you & made you feel better.

Pizza man is commenting when he doesnt need to nor know what he is talking about & neither do you.

The idea here on V J is to try to offer info that is helpful. I am sorry I couldnt help.

Because they are talking about the beneficiary, not the petitioner. You are the petitioner and therefore you do not list your children, only the beneficiary's children, in that age category.

Ok you say read his post and try to understand...um lemme see...WRONG apparently you missed this post....

I am the beneficiary - that's why I am filling the form out. If i've misunderstood please let me know!

He is the beneficiary.

Now you start by saying "The idea here on V J is to try to offer info that is helpful." after you say to him that he doesn't understand the forms and Pizza Man doesn't either when I gave him correct information from the start, you didn't. AND After you told him "The USC doesnt need a visa. If she is there ( here ) she wont be following you; she's in front of you. You dont need to list her."

WRONG, he does need to list her and he didn't even ask about getting her a visa so you offered info that was not even asked about. Then later you said the he "You answered your own question in the post" so apparently he knew what he was asking just seeking confirmation so why you say about "Pizza man is commenting when he doesnt need to nor know what he is talking about & neither do you."

So does he or doesn't he know what he is talking about, and for that matter point out my errors in my posts so I can apologize to him.

Dude I have given info before that was incorrect and it was due to misreading something but I didn't try to argue my reason into oblivion, you are on the road to nowhere. You will never be right, and nobody really cares, it's your telling others that they don't know what they are saying and how much "common sense" it takes to understand your lack of understanding. Get over it and have a great day.

[WelshDave86 0]

He is the beneficiary.

Now you start by saying "The idea here on V J is to try to offer info that is helpful." after you say to him that he doesn't understand the forms and Pizza Man doesn't either when I gave him correct information from the start, you didn't. AND After you told him "The USC doesnt need a visa. If she is there ( here ) she wont be following you; she's in front of you. You dont need to list her."

WRONG, he does need to list her and he didn't even ask about getting her a visa so you offered info that was not even asked about. Then later you said the he "You answered your own question in the post" so apparently he knew what he was asking just seeking confirmation so why you say about "Pizza man is commenting when he doesnt need to nor know what he is talking about & neither do you."

So does he or doesn't he know what he is talking about, and for that matter point out my errors in my posts so I can apologize to him.

Dude I have given info before that was incorrect and it was due to misreading something but I didn't try to argue my reason into oblivion, you are on the road to nowhere. You will never be right, and nobody really cares, it's your telling others that they don't know what they are saying and how much "common sense" it takes to understand your lack of understanding. Get over it and have a great day.

Well said.

Listen Ning, you were right on one thing - "I guess I can not find a way to make this clear"....

Now just leave it - I am sure Pizzadude didnt mean any offence, and nor did I. You just dug yourself a hole.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

The answer to the question has been given. Either move on now, or if you have something further that is useful to the discussion and has not yet been discussed then post it. If not, don't say anything. Bickering, name calling and insults add nothing to the discussion, and if it continues this thread will be closed.