The Five Biggest Lies in the Health Care Debate

[Tahoma 2,292]

The objective is to get more Americans access to healthcare when they need it.

The objective is not to shrink government.

You've picked the wrong metric, once again.

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[Y's_habibitk 2]

A related myth is that health-care reform will be financed through $500 billion in medicare cuts. This refers to proposed decreases in medicare increases. That is, spending is on track to reach $803 billion in 2019 from today's $422 billion, and that would be dialed back. Even the $560 billion in reductions (which would be spread over 10 years and come from reducing payments to private medicare advantage plans, reducing annual increases in payments to hospitals and other providers, and improving care so seniors are not readmitted to a hospital) is misleading: the house bill also gives medicare $340 billion more over a decade. The money would pay docs more for office visits, eliminate copays and deductibles for preventive care, and help close the "doughnut hole" in the medicare drug benefit, explains medicare expert Tricia Neuman of the Kaiser Family Foundation.

The fact is that if all of the medicare cuts do take place in the home health sector, small and rural home health agencies will go out of business which will leave seniors and disabled persons on medicare no choice to go home after a hospitalization due to chronic illness, thus INCREASING hospitalization AND admissions to skilled nursing facilities(which end up costing us more in tax dollars).

Home health services save Medicare millions a year.

This is the part of the plan makes no sense to me, it will end up costing more in tax dollars eventually.

:stepping on the soapbox for a moment:

We may have to spend more to staff and administer a better monitoring system, but if they would crack down on medicare/medicaid fraud...we would save billions a year.

Lighten the caseload on social workers that handle and maintain medicaid applications and receipients and send them out in the field to see who really needs/qualifies for their coverage. Most of the time these are also the same workers who can make home visits for their food stamp(and other forms of assistance)recepients. If they see that they are driving a brand new escalade and wearing designer clothes, then their benefits should be taken away...for example. These savings from tracking/dropping these fraud cases would probably be enough to fund the healthcare plan.

Not to mention the many providers that are fraudulently billing everyday.

[rebeccajo 14]

Now lets not play games,

Q: Do you actually believe any Healthcare legislation passed would prevent the further growth of Government in this area?

Let's not play games.

I don't CARE if promotes the further growth of government. Because right now I and the rest of us need protected from the greed of the insurance companies. The government either needs to provide an alternative to that greed, or they need to regulate the HELL out of them.

[Heracles 417]

Hate to shoot you down again but; you will notice, the higher taxed areas seem to have no better and often worse roads.

I have been to my county's meetings and seen the local republicans protest against spending money on infrastructure. This is why I started disagreeing with repubs; we have to two totally different views on country first. Some people seem to be stuck in the 1800's. Heck, even then they had side-walks and actually designed cities with some character, with some thought.

What it comes down to is a battle of class and ideology. For some a crappy truck is nice, yet for the rest of the developed world they prefer quality such as Lexus, BMW etc. The less civilized and educated one is, the less likely they are to care about improving their city or town they live in, let alone their country. Wheres, progress and quality of infrastructure means a lot to people from developed and civilized countries.

[mawilson 2,133]

For some a crappy truck is nice, yet for the rest of the developed world they prefer quality such as Lexus, BMW etc.

Lexus and BMW don't make trucks, so if you need a truck...

[Heracles 417]

For some a crappy truck is nice, yet for the rest of the developed world they prefer quality such as Lexus, BMW etc.

Lexus and BMW don't make trucks, so if you need a truck...

Hey I understand if someone is buying one for farm work or in the construction industry, however, the majority of trucks I see going by are driven by idiots trying to act all tough and cool. Cool in a freagin POS truck. That is how you know a demographic (segment) is out of touch with reality.

Buy a 600hp M5 or a Bentley and then act cool.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

For some a crappy truck is nice, yet for the rest of the developed world they prefer quality such as Lexus, BMW etc.

Lexus and BMW don't make trucks, so if you need a truck...

Hey I understand if someone is buying one for farm work or in the construction industry, however, the majority of trucks I see going by are driven by idiots trying to act all tough and cool. Cool in a freagin POS truck. That is how you know a demographic (segment) is out of touch with reality.

Buy a 600hp M5 or a Bentley and then act cool.

yo im'a roll up around yo hood in a mu'fuсkin' SMARTCAR, WHUT WHUT!

[mawilson 2,133]

For some a crappy truck is nice, yet for the rest of the developed world they prefer quality such as Lexus, BMW etc.

Lexus and BMW don't make trucks, so if you need a truck...

Hey I understand if someone is buying one for farm work or in the construction industry, however, the majority of trucks I see going by are driven by idiots trying to act all tough and cool. Cool in a freagin POS truck. That is how you know a demographic (segment) is out of touch with reality.

Buy a 600hp M5 or a Bentley and then act cool.

Maybe when they fix the roads...

[eros_EX_Plumber 0]

For some a crappy truck is nice, yet for the rest of the developed world they prefer quality such as Lexus, BMW etc.

Lexus and BMW don't make trucks, so if you need a truck...

Hey I understand if someone is buying one for farm work or in the construction industry, however, the majority of trucks I see going by are driven by idiots trying to act all tough and cool. Cool in a freagin POS truck. That is how you know a demographic (segment) is out of touch with reality.

Buy a 600hp M5 or a Bentley and then act cool.

Let me explain about US male mentality......

the smaller their ####### is...the BIGGER the truck they need to ride around..... once you understand that...everything else fall into place and make sense.

:rofl:

[Heracles 417]

Let me explain about US male mentality......

the smaller their ####### is...the BIGGER the truck they need to ride around..... once you understand that...everything else fall into place and make sense.

:rofl:

I better get a smartcar then.

[Heracles 417]

Maybe when they fix the roads...

You're right. You would destroy a car like that on these roads. Plus die by running off the road or hitting a pothole.

[mawilson 2,133]

Let me explain about US male mentality......

the smaller their ####### is...the BIGGER the truck they need to ride around..... once you understand that...everything else fall into place and make sense.

:rofl:

I better get a smartcar then.

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

Let me explain about US male mentality......

the smaller their ####### is...the BIGGER the truck they need to ride around..... once you understand that...everything else fall into place and make sense.

:rofl:

I better get a smartcar then.

eric is that you?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Let me explain about US male mentality......

the smaller their ####### is...the BIGGER the truck they need to ride around..... once you understand that...everything else fall into place and make sense.

:rofl:

I better get a smartcar then.

eric is that you?

Hiippies and their eco-friendly tin cans always seem to get stuck between my doolies!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Let me explain about US male mentality......

the smaller their ####### is...the BIGGER the truck they need to ride around..... once you understand that...everything else fall into place and make sense.

:rofl:

I better get a smartcar then.

eric is that you?

Hiippies and their eco-friendly tin cans always seem to get stuck between my doolies!

The question is, what does this choice of vehicle say about your equipment?