Dr. Tom Coburn tells the wife of a brain-injury victim to suck it up.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

You realize that ponzi schemes are illegal under U.S. Law. So I only need to get real to see your nonsensical POV? Oye.

To paraphrase Nixon, "It's not illegal when the government does it!"

No. It just requires using your intellect to understand the difference between a fraudulent scheme and a pay-as-you-go system. You're just parroting some Libertarian mumbo jumbo without understanding there's a difference.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You realize that ponzi schemes are illegal under U.S. Law. So I only need to get real to see your nonsensical POV? Oye.

To paraphrase Nixon, "It's not illegal when the government does it!"

I wish cancer on certain people as only then will you realize who the enemy is. Lets see what you think once an insurance company denies your treatment. I would say your family but natty boo showed me that certain repubs don't give a ####### about anyone. Therefore, individuals have to suffer themselves to understand (comprehend) anything.

You really are an evil person, aren't you.

[Heracles 417]

You really are an evil person, aren't you.

Some people are dumb so there really is no other way to put it. It just strange to see people who are obviously not rich supporting insurance boards, while refusing to band together for the greater good of the nation. We tried the repub way in doing things, the country ended up in two wars and basically bankrupt.

As I stated numerous time before, either the rest of the developed word is dumb or those against reform are dumb. I think we all know the answer to that one..

Edited August 29, 2009 by haza

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You realize that ponzi schemes are illegal under U.S. Law. So I only need to get real to see your nonsensical POV? Oye.

To paraphrase Nixon, "It's not illegal when the government does it!"

No. It just requires using your intellect to understand the difference between a fraudulent scheme and a pay-as-you-go system. You're just parroting some Libertarian mumbo jumbo without understanding there's a difference.

That is very close to the definition of a ponzi scheme.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

[luckytxn 2,264]

And lets all pay for it and stop trying to say that taxes will only be paid by the rich. They can only do so much and as with all government bureaucracies in the past this will be even more expensive then originally stated and become yearly more cumbersome and stagnant. Never has our government been able to be frugal and streamlined in the past. This will result in our government controlling the citizenry to a high degree.

It already is. Time to make the leap, and see if Marx was right, after all.

Actually I agree. We might as well so people can truly see the light after it is too late to turn back. Once we make that leap there will be no turning back.

[Heracles 417]

Yes covering everyone is a ponzi scheme. Seriously, are you guys dumb or what?

Actually I agree. We might as well so people can truly see the light after it is too late to turn back. Once we make that leap there will be no turning back.

Care to tell me which other countries are using the system you advocate and is actually successful?

Last time I checked it was third world countries. I am sure you can show me otherwise of course.

Edited August 29, 2009 by haza

[one...two...tree 2,762]

You realize that ponzi schemes are illegal under U.S. Law. So I only need to get real to see your nonsensical POV? Oye.

To paraphrase Nixon, "It's not illegal when the government does it!"

No. It just requires using your intellect to understand the difference between a fraudulent scheme and a pay-as-you-go system. You're just parroting some Libertarian mumbo jumbo without understanding there's a difference.

That is very close to the definition of a ponzi scheme.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

Good grief, Bill. Can you really see no difference between an illegal Ponzi scheme and Social Security??? You really are way out there. Just curious. Where did you first get this idea? Don't tell me it was from those librul professors in college.

[Heracles 417]

Good grief, Bill. Can you really see no difference between an illegal Ponzi scheme and Social Security??? You really are way out there. Just curious. Where did you first get this idea? Don't tell me it was from those librul professors in college.

Most knowledgeable professor of them all, Rush.

[Ban Hammer 13,367]

i'm sure the house prices are almost double - there's a lot of suckers up in virginia

and btw, your envy of texas is obvious.

I must touch a nerve of guys who just so happen to have Brazilian wives.

By the way, your shitty truck couldn't beat my audi running on one cylinder.

mkay big guy, you keep thinking that when you're stuck in the snow.

i'm sure it would smoke you in a quarter mile as it's quick off the start in 4 wheel drive.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Yes covering everyone is a ponzi scheme. Seriously, are you guys dumb or what?

Make your point, and move on. Covering everybody in not a ponzi scheme. Transfering wealth from one generation to another is. The current system is a ponzi scheme. Single payer healthcare is the only fair solution.

[Heracles 417]

i'm sure the house prices are almost double - there's a lot of suckers up in virginia

and btw, your envy of texas is obvious.

I must touch a nerve of guys who just so happen to have Brazilian wives.

By the way, your shitty truck couldn't beat my audi running on one cylinder.

mkay big guy, you keep thinking that when you're stuck in the snow.

i'm sure it would smoke you in a quarter mile as it's quick off the start in 4 wheel drive.

Lets forget the audi as its in a class of it;s own, aka you have to have money.

Maybe we can compare a G8 to any truck. The G8 in neutral could beat your shitty truck. Heck the G8 with holes cut into the floor, Flintstones styles, could beat it.

Edited August 29, 2009 by haza

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I know this won't faze you, Bill, but this is the SSA's response to those Right Wing Nuts who call it a ponzi scheme...

There is a superficial analogy between pyramid or Ponzi schemes and pay-as-you-go insurance programs in that in both money from later participants goes to pay the benefits of earlier participants. But that is where the similarity ends. A pay-as-you-go system can be visualized as a simple pipeline, with money from current contributors coming in the front end and money to current beneficiaries paid out the back end. As long as the amount of money coming in the front end of the pipe maintains a rough balance with the money paid out, the system can continue forever. There is no unsustainable progression driving the mechanism of a pay-as-you-go pension system, and so it is not a pyramid or Ponzi scheme.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Securi...or_Ponzi_scheme

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You realize that ponzi schemes are illegal under U.S. Law. So I only need to get real to see your nonsensical POV? Oye.

To paraphrase Nixon, "It's not illegal when the government does it!"

No. It just requires using your intellect to understand the difference between a fraudulent scheme and a pay-as-you-go system. You're just parroting some Libertarian mumbo jumbo without understanding there's a difference.

That is very close to the definition of a ponzi scheme.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

Good grief, Bill. Can you really see no difference between an illegal Ponzi scheme and Social Security??? You really are way out there. Just curious. Where did you first get this idea? Don't tell me it was from those librul professors in college.

B.S. Applied Mathematics, Computer Science, Sonoma State University (1988)

Edited August 29, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[one...two...tree 2,762]

You realize that ponzi schemes are illegal under U.S. Law. So I only need to get real to see your nonsensical POV? Oye.

To paraphrase Nixon, "It's not illegal when the government does it!"

No. It just requires using your intellect to understand the difference between a fraudulent scheme and a pay-as-you-go system. You're just parroting some Libertarian mumbo jumbo without understanding there's a difference.

That is very close to the definition of a ponzi scheme.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to separate investors from their own money or money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

Good grief, Bill. Can you really see no difference between an illegal Ponzi scheme and Social Security??? You really are way out there. Just curious. Where did you first get this idea? Don't tell me it was from those librul professors in college.

B.S. Applied Mathematics, Computer Science, Sonoma State University (1988)

You had a professor in college tell you that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme?

[GabiandVi 34]

It's called paraphrasing....you know like calling end of life counseling, death panels.

Again, my poor understanding of the language is getting in the way. I always thought paraphrasing meant to repeat the original by rewording it without changing the meaning or intent. I guess I've always misunderstood.

I also misunderstood that you disapproved of this sort of thing, but your practice of it either makes me mistaken or you a hypocrite.