Dr. Tom Coburn tells the wife of a brain-injury victim to suck it up.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Or foreigners need to realize that this is a different country then where they came from and that to try to bring their Socialistic policies here will be resisted.

Foreigners. Lol. I can buy and sell 100 Texans with a swipe of a card. So do not sit here and try to teach me about capitalism.

Yet you come on VJ to save the money for an attorney. Right.

No I just do not like lawyers.

Yeah right. The sheep will buy that one here because they are gullible but the rest will know you are BS.

[Ban Hammer 13,369]

Or foreigners need to realize that this is a different country then where they came from and that to try to bring their Socialistic policies here will be resisted.

Foreigners. Lol. I can buy and sell 100 Texans with a swipe of a card. So do not sit here and try to teach me about capitalism.

sure thing big guy who's card did you steal?

Edited August 29, 2009 by charles!

[Heracles 417]

Right. What other conclusion can one make? God, you Right Wingers are blinded by your own rigid ideology.

Refer to the article in my signature.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

It's called paraphrasing....you know like calling end of life counseling, death panels.

Paraphrasing merely shortens the content, it does not infer a different interpretation than is supported by the content. Hence the criticism.

That's your interpretation. I agree with the author of the article. He paraphrased Dr. Coburn's response appropriately.

It's called paraphrasing....you know like calling end of life counseling, death panels.

No, it's called not telling the truth.

Are death panels telling the truth?

Currently, no. Probably not acceptable any time soon. Down the road, who can tell? If you are going to cut costs, then you have to spent less. Whether or not that ends up being a "death panel", we will see how far society is willing to go.

What a slippery slope you're on there, Mr. Bill. The selective outrage by you Right Wingers when someone from your side is paraphrased while such paraphrasing has been widely done by opponents of health care reform is telling.

No one will find any reference to death panels in the bill, yet you seem unfazed or certainly not outraged by such paraphrasing. Tsk, tsk.

You miss the point. I am making an observation, and looking at the cold realities of the current system. Where the Government, and hence the taxpayer, spend it's healthcare dollar, is nothing more than a ponzi scheme to benefit the elderly. That is the current situation.

If you are going to extend the current medicare system to cover everybody, and if you are going to cut costs, eventually you have to come to the conclusion that you are going to spend less money on old people. It's cold, hard logic, nothing more.

Or to save money we will do like other countries with Socialized health care and become stagnant and build less hospitals, less people become health care providers, stifle innovation because no need to try. Which will result in long waits for sub standard health care and be denied for health care because they can say that a clogged artery is an elective surgery and so on and so on.

I can live with that. But continuing to divert 15.3% of my income so that old people can have free healthcare, and pention, when those over 65 have more wealth than those whose wealth is taken from them is generational theft. No, I say, get it over with, and let the government pay for everybody's healthcare.

Edited August 29, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[luckytxn 2,264]

Or foreigners need to realize that this is a different country then where they came from and that to try to bring their Socialistic policies here will be resisted.

Foreigners. Lol. I can buy and sell 100 Texans with a swipe of a card. So do not sit here and try to teach me about capitalism.

sure thing big guy who's card did you steal?

Has to think his green card is an ATM card.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

It's called paraphrasing....you know like calling end of life counseling, death panels.

Paraphrasing merely shortens the content, it does not infer a different interpretation than is supported by the content. Hence the criticism.

That's your interpretation. I agree with the author of the article. He paraphrased Dr. Coburn's response appropriately.

It's called paraphrasing....you know like calling end of life counseling, death panels.

No, it's called not telling the truth.

Are death panels telling the truth?

Currently, no. Probably not acceptable any time soon. Down the road, who can tell? If you are going to cut costs, then you have to spent less. Whether or not that ends up being a "death panel", we will see how far society is willing to go.

What a slippery slope you're on there, Mr. Bill. The selective outrage by you Right Wingers when someone from your side is paraphrased while such paraphrasing has been widely done by opponents of health care reform is telling.

No one will find any reference to death panels in the bill, yet you seem unfazed or certainly not outraged by such paraphrasing. Tsk, tsk.

You miss the point. I am making an observation, and looking at the cold realities of the current system. Where the Government, and hence the taxpayer, spend it's healthcare dollar, is nothing more than a ponzi scheme to benefit the elderly. That is the current situation.

If you are going to extend the current medicare system to cover everybody, and if you are going to cut costs, eventually you have to come to the conclusion that you are going to spend less money on old people. It's cold, hard logic, nothing more.

Right. What other conclusion can one make? God, you Right Wingers are blinded by your own rigid ideology.

Get real Steve.

[Heracles 417]

Or foreigners need to realize that this is a different country then where they came from and that to try to bring their Socialistic policies here will be resisted.

Foreigners. Lol. I can buy and sell 100 Texans with a swipe of a card. So do not sit here and try to teach me about capitalism.

sure thing big guy who's card did you steal?

Has to think his green card is an ATM card.

The House prices in my area are almost doooouble that of Crapxas. The majority of us also have this thing called a 'degree'. Which means we have some sort of logic to our opinions.

Now if you want to compare a shitty state like Texas to Australia, you will lose. That is why I picked DC to compare, at least with that city you have a chance.

Edited August 29, 2009 by haza

[one...two...tree 2,762]

It's called paraphrasing....you know like calling end of life counseling, death panels.

Paraphrasing merely shortens the content, it does not infer a different interpretation than is supported by the content. Hence the criticism.

That's your interpretation. I agree with the author of the article. He paraphrased Dr. Coburn's response appropriately.

It's called paraphrasing....you know like calling end of life counseling, death panels.

No, it's called not telling the truth.

Are death panels telling the truth?

Currently, no. Probably not acceptable any time soon. Down the road, who can tell? If you are going to cut costs, then you have to spent less. Whether or not that ends up being a "death panel", we will see how far society is willing to go.

What a slippery slope you're on there, Mr. Bill. The selective outrage by you Right Wingers when someone from your side is paraphrased while such paraphrasing has been widely done by opponents of health care reform is telling.

No one will find any reference to death panels in the bill, yet you seem unfazed or certainly not outraged by such paraphrasing. Tsk, tsk.

You miss the point. I am making an observation, and looking at the cold realities of the current system. Where the Government, and hence the taxpayer, spend it's healthcare dollar, is nothing more than a ponzi scheme to benefit the elderly. That is the current situation.

If you are going to extend the current medicare system to cover everybody, and if you are going to cut costs, eventually you have to come to the conclusion that you are going to spend less money on old people. It's cold, hard logic, nothing more.

Right. What other conclusion can one make? God, you Right Wingers are blinded by your own rigid ideology.

Get real Steve.

Would getting real require that I too buy into such nonsense as calling Medicare and Social Security a ponzi scheme? You realize that ponzi schemes are illegal under U.S. Law. So I only need to get real to see your nonsensical POV? Oye.

[luckytxn 2,264]

It's called paraphrasing....you know like calling end of life counseling, death panels.

Paraphrasing merely shortens the content, it does not infer a different interpretation than is supported by the content. Hence the criticism.

That's your interpretation. I agree with the author of the article. He paraphrased Dr. Coburn's response appropriately.

It's called paraphrasing....you know like calling end of life counseling, death panels.

No, it's called not telling the truth.

Are death panels telling the truth?

Currently, no. Probably not acceptable any time soon. Down the road, who can tell? If you are going to cut costs, then you have to spent less. Whether or not that ends up being a "death panel", we will see how far society is willing to go.

What a slippery slope you're on there, Mr. Bill. The selective outrage by you Right Wingers when someone from your side is paraphrased while such paraphrasing has been widely done by opponents of health care reform is telling.

No one will find any reference to death panels in the bill, yet you seem unfazed or certainly not outraged by such paraphrasing. Tsk, tsk.

You miss the point. I am making an observation, and looking at the cold realities of the current system. Where the Government, and hence the taxpayer, spend it's healthcare dollar, is nothing more than a ponzi scheme to benefit the elderly. That is the current situation.

If you are going to extend the current medicare system to cover everybody, and if you are going to cut costs, eventually you have to come to the conclusion that you are going to spend less money on old people. It's cold, hard logic, nothing more.

Or to save money we will do like other countries with Socialized health care and become stagnant and build less hospitals, less people become health care providers, stifle innovation because no need to try. Which will result in long waits for sub standard health care and be denied for health care because they can say that a clogged artery is an elective surgery and so on and so on.

I can live with that. But continuing to divert 15.3% of my income so that old people can have free healthcare, and petion, when those over 65 have more wealth than those whose wealth is taken from then is generational theft. No, I say, get it over with, and let the government pay for everybody's healthcare.

And lets all pay for it and stop trying to say that taxes will only be paid by the rich. They can only do so much and as with all government bureaucracies in the past this will be even more expensive then originally stated and become yearly more cumbersome and stagnant. Never has our government been able to be frugal and streamlined in the past. This will result in our government controlling the citizenry to a high degree.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You realize that ponzi schemes are illegal under U.S. Law. So I only need to get real to see your nonsensical POV? Oye.

To paraphrase Nixon, "It's not illegal when the government does it!"

Edited August 29, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[luckytxn 2,264]

Or foreigners need to realize that this is a different country then where they came from and that to try to bring their Socialistic policies here will be resisted.

Foreigners. Lol. I can buy and sell 100 Texans with a swipe of a card. So do not sit here and try to teach me about capitalism.

sure thing big guy who's card did you steal?

Has to think his green card is an ATM card.

The House prices in my area are almost doooouble that of Crapxas.

As Barnum said many years ago. There's a sucker born every minute. He especially meant foreigners I think.

[Ban Hammer 13,369]

Or foreigners need to realize that this is a different country then where they came from and that to try to bring their Socialistic policies here will be resisted.

Foreigners. Lol. I can buy and sell 100 Texans with a swipe of a card. So do not sit here and try to teach me about capitalism.

sure thing big guy who's card did you steal?

Has to think his green card is an ATM card.

The House prices in my area are almost doooouble that of Crapxas. The majority of us also have this thing called a 'degree'. Which means we have some sort of logic to our opinions.

Now if you want to compare a shitty state like Texas to Australia, you will lose. That is why I picked DC to compare, at least with that city you have a chance.

i'm sure the house prices are almost double - there's a lot of suckers up in virginia

and btw, your envy of texas is obvious.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

And lets all pay for it and stop trying to say that taxes will only be paid by the rich. They can only do so much and as with all government bureaucracies in the past this will be even more expensive then originally stated and become yearly more cumbersome and stagnant. Never has our government been able to be frugal and streamlined in the past. This will result in our government controlling the citizenry to a high degree.

It already is. Time to make the leap, and see if Marx was right, after all.

[Heracles 417]

You realize that ponzi schemes are illegal under U.S. Law. So I only need to get real to see your nonsensical POV? Oye.

To paraphrase Nixon, "It's not illegal when the government does it!"

I wish cancer on certain people as only then will you realize who the enemy is. Lets see what you think once an insurance company denies your treatment. I would say your family but natty boo showed me that certain repubs don't give a ####### about anyone. Therefore, individuals have to suffer themselves to understand (comprehend) anything.

[Heracles 417]

i'm sure the house prices are almost double - there's a lot of suckers up in virginia

and btw, your envy of texas is obvious.

I must touch a nerve of guys who just so happen to have Brazilian wives.

By the way, your shitty truck couldn't beat my audi running on one cylinder.

Edited August 29, 2009 by haza