John Stossel and 20/20 nail Obama-care to the wall

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Quit FVCKIN wondering and get with the FVCKIN program! You aint gonna get no free fvckin ride no matter what! Wake the FVCK_UP!

Australians live longer than Americans and they have (public/private) NHS. Actually Australians now live a good 3 years longer; and it's said to be increasing. Man, I'm killing myself by being here.

So that rules that 'opinion' out.

I don't need a free ride.

So get out of section 8 bud.

Remember, you know nothing about me.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I don't need a free ride.

So get out of section 8 bud.

Livin so long you shite the bed? Oh yeah baby, theres a fvckin plus!

Ooooops, meant to include hazies remarks.

Edited August 28, 2009 by ={Rogue}=

[Heracles 417]

In terms of life span: Australia is ranked (5) and Canada is ranked (6).

US? (35) - yeah what a great system private is. Noooot!

Remember, you know nothing about me.

Dude you're probably that genius who called the cop racist for arresting him.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

In terms of life span: Australia is ranked (5) and Canada is ranked (6).

US? (35) - yeah what a great system private is. Noooot!

So your folks live so long they shite the bed?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

In terms of life span: Australia is ranked (5) and Canada is ranked (6).

US? (35) - yeah what a great system private is. Noooot!

Remember, you know nothing about me.

Dude you're probably that genius who called the cop racist for arresting him.

Maybe you should learn not to shi t where you eat? Just a suggetion.

[trailmix 77]

I like Stossel, but this is sensationalistic. For instance, the woman who had the quadruplets - yes she had to fly to Montana because there were not enough neonatal beds available - what they don't mention is that she paid nothing for it. They also don't mention that there is a new hospital being built in that same city and an extension on another.

It's a horrible thing for her, no question - but it made headlines because it's not the norm - not because it is.

Canadian healthcare is not perfect, but I don't see why American media keeps referring to it, you are not Canada, you will not have the same system.

As for the innovation based on profit, I don't see how that would change and why it is in a piece about Canadian healthcare, it clouds the issue. I don't know about all provinces but in Alberta there is no coverage by Alberta health care for drugs - so innovation is not hindered drug-wise (there is also no coverage for dental or vision - except for seniors). Since, in the U.S. system, they will be caring for more people, one would think that there would still be a profit to be made on other types of innovations as well.

There are wait times here for specialists and tests - some are not acceptable - but I think the reason there probably isn't in the U.S. is because so many people are excluded - that doesn't make it right.

In New Zealand they have public health care but they have a two tier system, where you can buy additional insurance (or just pay) to go to a private hospital, why do they never mention that type of system in these pieces?

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I like Stossel, but this is sensationalistic. For instance, the woman who had the quadruplets - yes she had to fly to Montana because there were not enough neonatal beds available - what they don't mention is that she paid nothing for it. They also don't mention that there is a new hospital being built in that same city and an extension on another.

It's a horrible thing for her, no question - but it made headlines because it's not the norm - not because it is.

Canadian healthcare is not perfect, but I don't see why American media keeps referring to it, you are not Canada, you will not have the same system.

As for the innovation based on profit, I don't see how that would change and why it is in a piece about Canadian healthcare, it clouds the issue. I don't know about all provinces but in Alberta there is no coverage by Alberta health care for drugs - so innovation is not hindered drug-wise (there is also no coverage for dental or vision - except for seniors). Since, in the U.S. system, they will be caring for more people, one would think that there would still be a profit to be made on other types of innovations as well.

There are wait times here for specialists and tests - some are not acceptable - but I think the reason there probably isn't in the U.S. is because so many people are excluded - that doesn't make it right.

In New Zealand they have public health care but they have a two tier system, where you can buy additional insurance (or just pay) to go to a private hospital, why do they never mention that type of system in these pieces?

You only see what you want,Right?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I like Stossel, but this is sensationalistic. For instance, the woman who had the quadruplets - yes she had to fly to Montana because there were not enough neonatal beds available - what they don't mention is that she paid nothing for it. They also don't mention that there is a new hospital being built in that same city and an extension on another.

It's a horrible thing for her, no question - but it made headlines because it's not the norm - not because it is.

Canadian healthcare is not perfect, but I don't see why American media keeps referring to it, you are not Canada, you will not have the same system.

As for the innovation based on profit, I don't see how that would change and why it is in a piece about Canadian healthcare, it clouds the issue. I don't know about all provinces but in Alberta there is no coverage by Alberta health care for drugs - so innovation is not hindered drug-wise (there is also no coverage for dental or vision - except for seniors). Since, in the U.S. system, they will be caring for more people, one would think that there would still be a profit to be made on other types of innovations as well.

There are wait times here for specialists and tests - some are not acceptable - but I think the reason there probably isn't in the U.S. is because so many people are excluded - that doesn't make it right.

In New Zealand they have public health care but they have a two tier system, where you can buy additional insurance (or just pay) to go to a private hospital, why do they never mention that type of system in these pieces?

You only see what you want,Right?

Just like you, right?

[Heracles 417]

Just like you, right?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I like Stossel, but this is sensationalistic. For instance, the woman who had the quadruplets - yes she had to fly to Montana because there were not enough neonatal beds available - what they don't mention is that she paid nothing for it. They also don't mention that there is a new hospital being built in that same city and an extension on another.

It's a horrible thing for her, no question - but it made headlines because it's not the norm - not because it is.

Canadian healthcare is not perfect, but I don't see why American media keeps referring to it, you are not Canada, you will not have the same system.

As for the innovation based on profit, I don't see how that would change and why it is in a piece about Canadian healthcare, it clouds the issue. I don't know about all provinces but in Alberta there is no coverage by Alberta health care for drugs - so innovation is not hindered drug-wise (there is also no coverage for dental or vision - except for seniors). Since, in the U.S. system, they will be caring for more people, one would think that there would still be a profit to be made on other types of innovations as well.

There are wait times here for specialists and tests - some are not acceptable - but I think the reason there probably isn't in the U.S. is because so many people are excluded - that doesn't make it right.

In New Zealand they have public health care but they have a two tier system, where you can buy additional insurance (or just pay) to go to a private hospital, why do they never mention that type of system in these pieces?

You only see what you want,Right?

Just like you, right?

Answering a question with a question? You know what that means? Your blankin out bud!

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Just like you, right?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

And you do the same, so we're all even. Only Marc and I are Americans and love the country.

I like Stossel, but this is sensationalistic. For instance, the woman who had the quadruplets - yes she had to fly to Montana because there were not enough neonatal beds available - what they don't mention is that she paid nothing for it. They also don't mention that there is a new hospital being built in that same city and an extension on another.

It's a horrible thing for her, no question - but it made headlines because it's not the norm - not because it is.

Canadian healthcare is not perfect, but I don't see why American media keeps referring to it, you are not Canada, you will not have the same system.

As for the innovation based on profit, I don't see how that would change and why it is in a piece about Canadian healthcare, it clouds the issue. I don't know about all provinces but in Alberta there is no coverage by Alberta health care for drugs - so innovation is not hindered drug-wise (there is also no coverage for dental or vision - except for seniors). Since, in the U.S. system, they will be caring for more people, one would think that there would still be a profit to be made on other types of innovations as well.

There are wait times here for specialists and tests - some are not acceptable - but I think the reason there probably isn't in the U.S. is because so many people are excluded - that doesn't make it right.

In New Zealand they have public health care but they have a two tier system, where you can buy additional insurance (or just pay) to go to a private hospital, why do they never mention that type of system in these pieces?

You only see what you want,Right?

Just like you, right?

Answering a question with a question? You know what that means? Your blankin out bud!

Monkey see, monkey do.

[MrsCat 6]

Just like you, right?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

And you do the same, so we're all even. Only Marc and I are Americans and love the country.

Well now I feel alienated.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Just like you, right?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

And you do the same, so we're all even. Only Marc and I are Americans and love the country.

Well now I feel alienated.

If you love the US, then you aren't alienated. You live here and like it here, so you're cool.

[Heracles 417]

Only Marc and I are Americans and love the country.

Which means what exactly? That you are so sort of patriot. Plllleeeeeseee. Don't make me laugh. Harder than I did for the Boston is a tough guy city comment you made.

PS Strange to see someone attack me because I'm a foreigner, with differing views, yet be in an immigration forum.

Edited August 28, 2009 by haza

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Only Marc and I are Americans and love the country.

Which means what exactly? That you are so sort of patriot. Plllleeeeeseee. Don't make m laugh.

PS Strange to see someone attack me because I'm a foreigner, with differing views, yet be in an immigration forum.

I'm not a foreigner, I'm on a forum for people who immigrate to America. You are an America basher. You don't want to be here, so go home. Problem solved. Your views don't bother me at all. You think it's hot in the kitchen? Get out. We don't need people like you here, that's all.