VAWA. RFE: marriage in a good faith.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

For the address:

Have you tried contacting the utilities? Even though he has since removed your name from the account they should have record that you were once on it. They may be able to provide you with duplicate copies of statements from that time which would show your name.

How about a State ID or Driver's License? Did you have either at that address? Again you could contact the issuing agency and ask them for a transcript which would show the address.

My paycheck stubs all show my address, do you have any from that period of time?

Contact the IRS, ask about getting a transcript for those years tax returns as they should be joint listing you.

[Kim_G 4]

3bvsla,

Good faith marriage can be proved by documents that attest to commingling of financial resources. For instance, you could present evidence of having a joint checking or savings account, such as bank statements or a letter from the bank. Or better yet, if you have copies of cashed checks that bear both names. This will show to USCIS that you and your spouse spent the money together, and if two people share financial resources they most likely have bona fide ties.

Affidavits from friends or neighbors can be helpful too, they do not have to be notarized, but they must be very detailed and contain the person's contact information. People providing the affidavits have to specify in which capacity they know you and what interactions they witnessed between you and your spouse.

Good luck!

[UKRUSA 2]

3bvsla,

Good faith marriage can be proved by documents that attest to commingling of financial resources. For instance, you could present evidence of having a joint checking or savings account, such as bank statements or a letter from the bank. Or better yet, if you have copies of cashed checks that bear both names. This will show to USCIS that you and your spouse spent the money together, and if two people share financial resources they most likely have bona fide ties.

Affidavits from friends or neighbors can be helpful too, they do not have to be notarized, but they must be very detailed and contain the person's contact information. People providing the affidavits have to specify in which capacity they know you and what interactions they witnessed between you and your spouse.

Good luck!

The USCIS requests for evidence to prove "good faith" are extremely subjective at best and are only "suggestions or ideas". Reason I write this is because of my research on this "evidence" request working with a very close friend.

A very high number of I-360 self filers do not have now or had at the time of marriage items such as checking or savings accounts in their name.

(**Remember since The US Patriot act requires items such as SS card or ID for banking some women do not have during marriage and did not open with their name or jointly). To try and use a mortgage many women may not have in their name or husband had residence before marriage and never added name. Gas or power bills may be only in owners name in many states and must have credit information. So Financial Sharing proves nothing except bills were paid. For example in college if you had a roommate of the opposite sex and paid half of the rent and monthly bills does that prove you were married to him or her? NO.

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Usually only the couple of a marriage themselves know the intention of their marriage. However, the USCIS will try to interpret the true intention of the marriage when the immigration officers are reviewing immigration petitions. The USCIS always takes into account the following factors while making their interpretation:

Whether the couple have known each other for a reasonably long time;

The frequency of meetings of the couple prior to the marriage;

Whether the couple have lived together in the past or presently live together;

Whether the couple married only after one party became the subject of an investigation, removal, or deportation proceedings by the USCIS. An immigration petition may not be approved for the alien who was married after the commencement of removal, exclusion, or deportation proceeding until the alien has resided outside the U.S. for at least two years, unless the alien spouse can prove the marriage was a good faith marriage and not solely for immigration purposes.

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From my experience and research, USCIS gives only ideas or suggestions to look for but those items are "not limited to" any of those items because many petitioners do not have such items. The evidence sent to USCIS to prove "good faith" is completely subjective and open to interpretation so give details in your words what you are trying to prove with each item you send. Pictures are good but give a brief summary in your words as if you are there telling the person who, what, when where and why this picture is relevant to you proving "good faith".

[Kim_G 4]

I don't see any use in a reply like this, much of what USCIS is doing is subjective, but that doesn't mean that they are not looking for any specific things. Examples of compelling evidence of bona fide marriage are birth certificates of children and financial sharing. You could think whatever you like about what constitutes good faith marriage, but these are the things that USCIS is looking for in particular. It doesn't have to make sense, it's just how it is!

Edited November 6, 2009 by Kim_G

[ashleyblack 0]

3bvsla,

Good faith marriage can be proved by documents that attest to commingling of financial resources. For instance, you could present evidence of having a joint checking or savings account, such as bank statements or a letter from the bank. Or better yet, if you have copies of cashed checks that bear both names. This will show to USCIS that you and your spouse spent the money together, and if two people share financial resources they most likely have bona fide ties.

Affidavits from friends or neighbors can be helpful too, they do not have to be notarized, but they must be very detailed and contain the person's contact information. People providing the affidavits have to specify in which capacity they know you and what interactions they witnessed between you and your spouse.

Good luck!

The USCIS requests for evidence to prove "good faith" are extremely subjective at best and are only "suggestions or ideas". Reason I write this is because of my research on this "evidence" request working with a very close friend.

A very high number of I-360 self filers do not have now or had at the time of marriage items such as checking or savings accounts in their name.

(**Remember since The US Patriot act requires items such as SS card or ID for banking some women do not have during marriage and did not open with their name or jointly). To try and use a mortgage many women may not have in their name or husband had residence before marriage and never added name. Gas or power bills may be only in owners name in many states and must have credit information. So Financial Sharing proves nothing except bills were paid. For example in college if you had a roommate of the opposite sex and paid half of the rent and monthly bills does that prove you were married to him or her? NO.

________

Usually only the couple of a marriage themselves know the intention of their marriage. However, the USCIS will try to interpret the true intention of the marriage when the immigration officers are reviewing immigration petitions. The USCIS always takes into account the following factors while making their interpretation:

Whether the couple have known each other for a reasonably long time;

The frequency of meetings of the couple prior to the marriage;

Whether the couple have lived together in the past or presently live together;

Whether the couple married only after one party became the subject of an investigation, removal, or deportation proceedings by the USCIS. An immigration petition may not be approved for the alien who was married after the commencement of removal, exclusion, or deportation proceeding until the alien has resided outside the U.S. for at least two years, unless the alien spouse can prove the marriage was a good faith marriage and not solely for immigration purposes.

_________

From my experience and research, USCIS gives only ideas or suggestions to look for but those items are "not limited to" any of those items because many petitioners do not have such items. The evidence sent to USCIS to prove "good faith" is completely subjective and open to interpretation so give details in your words what you are trying to prove with each item you send. Pictures are good but give a brief summary in your words as if you are there telling the person who, what, when where and why this picture is relevant to you proving "good faith".

Hi ukrusa

know what I got yah .. thank you for posting some informationa about "good faith" coz as I am I dont have sharing things like joint account or something coz he never get my SSN .I can give only a photographs that prove that weve together ... He never put my name to his lease ,bills things like that.. But I am on his health insurance..

[UKRUSA 2]

I don't see any use in a reply like this, much of what USCIS is doing is subjective, but that doesn't mean that they are not looking for any specific things. Examples of compelling evidence of bona fide marriage are birth certificates of children and financial sharing. You could think whatever you like about what constitutes good faith marriage, but these are the things that USCIS is looking for in particular. It doesn't have to make sense, it's just how it is!

I simply disagree. Your are certainly entitled to that.

In my observations, It comes down to the USCIS covering their rear ends and to show others up the pole that do diligence was made in each and every case.

I'm trying to help others see objectivity from many angles on cases how they may be seen from others. For Example, if you were the one sitting in the chair looking at an I-360 case and RFE information given back to you;

Your examples given above..

1. Birth Certificates of Children - In my opinion and others I have read and heard from recently, proves nothing that a marriage was NOT entered into to only gain papers. Many people today have babies without being married. You can even adopt children without being married today. So a birth certificate proves what? Remember not all I-360 cases involve children. What if the fathers name is not on the BC?

2. Financial Proof - US Banking Laws require a person to have either a SS # or resident documents from USCIS to open a personal or joint bank account per Patriot Act 2001. MANY if not an overwhelming majority of I-360 fall into this category. So to produce banking documents is extremely difficult and impossible in many cases.

Pictures with letters from people who attended the events such as wedding, baby sitters, teachers speak louder than anything. Pictures from a trip together and a letter from those with you on the trips are good. Proof is placing people together, who, where, what, how and when. Example In Florida with him and her, his brother and wife mom and dad. He purchased tickets and Disney day by working extra time. I arranged to have friends and family meet us. Here is there account of the weekend pictures attached of us in the park and family together. This says more to many people reviewing a case of "were they really married" than numbers.

[Kim_G 4]

I don't see any use in a reply like this, much of what USCIS is doing is subjective, but that doesn't mean that they are not looking for any specific things. Examples of compelling evidence of bona fide marriage are birth certificates of children and financial sharing. You could think whatever you like about what constitutes good faith marriage, but these are the things that USCIS is looking for in particular. It doesn't have to make sense, it's just how it is!

I simply disagree. Your are certainly entitled to that.

In my observations, It comes down to the USCIS covering their rear ends and to show others up the pole that do diligence was made in each and every case.

I'm trying to help others see objectivity from many angles on cases how they may be seen from others. For Example, if you were the one sitting in the chair looking at an I-360 case and RFE information given back to you;

Your examples given above..

1. Birth Certificates of Children - In my opinion and others I have read and heard from recently, proves nothing that a marriage was NOT entered into to only gain papers. Many people today have babies without being married. You can even adopt children without being married today. So a birth certificate proves what? Remember not all I-360 cases involve children. What if the fathers name is not on the BC?

2. Financial Proof - US Banking Laws require a person to have either a SS # or resident documents from USCIS to open a personal or joint bank account per Patriot Act 2001. MANY if not an overwhelming majority of I-360 fall into this category. So to produce banking documents is extremely difficult and impossible in many cases.

Pictures with letters from people who attended the events such as wedding, baby sitters, teachers speak louder than anything. Pictures from a trip together and a letter from those with you on the trips are good. Proof is placing people together, who, where, what, how and when. Example In Florida with him and her, his brother and wife mom and dad. He purchased tickets and Disney day by working extra time. I arranged to have friends and family meet us. Here is there account of the weekend pictures attached of us in the park and family together. This says more to many people reviewing a case of "were they really married" than numbers.

You really should look at the stats on uscis website relating to I-360 denials, many adverse decisions state that the applicant failed to show good faith marriage. Then the officer would engage in a lengthy explanation that while the picture shows that the two people were in the same place at the same time, it,however, does not prove the intent of the two to live as a married couple. I'm not discounting other types of evidence, all I'm saying is that there is primary evidence of good faith marriage that they will look at in first place.

Of course, affidavits from family and friends should help establish bona fides, but depending on the situation it may or may not be sufficient.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Kim_G

[UKRUSA 2]

I don't see any use in a reply like this, much of what USCIS is doing is subjective, but that doesn't mean that they are not looking for any specific things. Examples of compelling evidence of bona fide marriage are birth certificates of children and financial sharing. You could think whatever you like about what constitutes good faith marriage, but these are the things that USCIS is looking for in particular. It doesn't have to make sense, it's just how it is!

I simply disagree. Your are certainly entitled to that.

In my observations, It comes down to the USCIS covering their rear ends and to show others up the pole that do diligence was made in each and every case.

I'm trying to help others see objectivity from many angles on cases how they may be seen from others. For Example, if you were the one sitting in the chair looking at an I-360 case and RFE information given back to you;

Your examples given above..

1. Birth Certificates of Children - In my opinion and others I have read and heard from recently, proves nothing that a marriage was NOT entered into to only gain papers. Many people today have babies without being married. You can even adopt children without being married today. So a birth certificate proves what? Remember not all I-360 cases involve children. What if the fathers name is not on the BC?

2. Financial Proof - US Banking Laws require a person to have either a SS # or resident documents from USCIS to open a personal or joint bank account per Patriot Act 2001. MANY if not an overwhelming majority of I-360 fall into this category. So to produce banking documents is extremely difficult and impossible in many cases.

Pictures with letters from people who attended the events such as wedding, baby sitters, teachers speak louder than anything. Pictures from a trip together and a letter from those with you on the trips are good. Proof is placing people together, who, where, what, how and when. Example In Florida with him and her, his brother and wife mom and dad. He purchased tickets and Disney day by working extra time. I arranged to have friends and family meet us. Here is there account of the weekend pictures attached of us in the park and family together. This says more to many people reviewing a case of "were they really married" than numbers.

You really should look at the stats on uscis website relating to I-360 denials, many adverse decisions state that the applicant failed to show good faith marriage. Then the officer would engage in a lengthy explanation that while the picture shows that the two people were in the same place at the same time, it,however, does not prove the intent of the two to live as a married couple. I'm not discounting other types of evidence, all I'm saying is that there is primary evidence of good faith marriage that they will look at in first place.

Of course, affidavits from family and friends should help establish bona fides, but depending on the situation it may or may not be sufficient.

My problem and point in some of the RFE material USCIS requests from applicants, is not permitted according to laws written since 2001, the biggest being bank information and the patriot act of 2001. Any creditor is now forbidden to issue credit of any kind to anyone not providing proper identification. Many have been interpreting this even more strictly and include companies such an Utilities, Cable TV even water company accounts fall under the PA 2001. So I'm just pointing out some of the requests USCIS tell some to use as examples or now becoming less and less available and needs to come up with a possible option.

[kwala 3]

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I proved it all. They found insufficient only proof that marriage was in a good faith. <img src="http://www.visajourney.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

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3bvsla,

The more you send the better, i suggest you get a letter from a psychaitrist...that helps alot...just try to gather everything u can from every corner...then only your case will be stronger.

yes probably ,i did send lots but just give them aportinutty to find reason to deny the case .discrepancies hapened when u send lots of evidences .

[leahandlucas 15]

Being from Russia as well is not going to help the case....but good luck with everything!!!

[maherforever 8]

Being from Russia as well is not going to help the case....but good luck with everything!!!

And your point is??? what is that have to do with anything? judgemental much?