G-325A: Four copies?

[jbiel590 0]

Hey all,

A newbie here. I sent my I-129F package in just last week and thought I had done everything right. Then I came across this site today and read that I should have including FOUR copies of the G-325A for each of us. I didn't see this ANYWHERE in the instructions and now I'm panicked that things are going to get held up or denied. Anyone have a problem with including just one copy?

BTW, how is anyone supposed to know this if it's not in the I-129F instructions?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

There's been a lot of confusion about this recently. To summarize:

• Versions of the G-325A available from USCIS prior to July contained four identical pages. The instructions specified that all four pages be signed and submitted.
• USCIS posted a new version of the form in July with only a single page plus instructions. The web page for the G-325A, however, still mentions four pages plus instructions (hence the confusion).
• You followed the instructions as given on the current edition of the form.
• USCIS has been telling callers that the new form and instructions are correct, and that only one page is required.
• To date, I have seen no reports of RFEs for following the current instructions and submitting a single page.

Try not to worry. Most likely you will be fine. If you do receive an RFE, please post and let the community know—this would be valuable information for everyone.

[MarPhee 1]

Hey all,

A newbie here. I sent my I-129F package in just last week and thought I had done everything right. Then I came across this site today and read that I should have including FOUR copies of the G-325A for each of us. I didn't see this ANYWHERE in the instructions and now I'm panicked that things are going to get held up or denied. Anyone have a problem with including just one copy?

BTW, how is anyone supposed to know this if it's not in the I-129F instructions?

Thanks in advance for your help.

yes. 4 copies for both of you of G-325A or biographic information. go to uscis website there is an instruction there for the G-325A form. here's the link. http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

thanks

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

yes. 4 copies for both of you of G-325A or biographic information. go to uscis website there is an instruction there for the G-325A form. here's the link. http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...00045f3d6a1RCRD

thanks

It is not that simple. If you click the link on that page, you will be taken to a form with a single page plus instructions. This is the version of the form that has been available since mid-July. The instructions page of the current form makes no reference to four pages or four copies.

For those who have yet to submit their I-129F, I would certainly recommend erring on the side of caution: print, sign, and submit four copies of the G-325A for petitioner and beneficiary. But to categorically say that four pages are still required is just not true. The current situation is quite unclear.

[pushbrk 12,910]

There's been a lot of confusion about this recently. To summarize:

• Versions of the G-325A available from USCIS prior to July contained four identical pages. The instructions specified that all four pages be signed and submitted.
• USCIS posted a new version of the form in July with only a single page plus instructions. The web page for the G-325A, however, still mentions four pages plus instructions (hence the confusion).
• You followed the instructions as given on the current edition of the form.
• USCIS has been telling callers that the new form and instructions are correct, and that only one page is required.
• To date, I have seen no reports of RFEs for following the current instructions and submitting a single page.

Try not to worry. Most likely you will be fine. If you do receive an RFE, please post and let the community know—this would be valuable information for everyone.

From my extensive observation, even with the old form, I've never heard of an RFE for more copies, as long as one bore an original signature. Even an unsigned G325a is technically acceptable but not all adjudicators are aware of that.

[jbiel590 0]

I agree, Stephen,it's NOT that simple. My hope is that they honor it simply because that's how it is set up on the website and it's not explained anywhere in the official instructions. Or maybe they just want one page now!

I have another question, since you're available now; Should I start gathering info for my I-134 now (i.e. letter from employer, letter from financial institution, etc) or does that stuff have to be dated within a certain amount of time from my fiancee's interview? I'd just as soon take care of it now and have it ready to go, but if her interview isn't for another 7 months or so, they may consider it old info. And same for her police clearance; if she gets it now, will they want a "fresh" one? Thoughts?

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

I agree, Stephen,it's NOT that simple. My hope is that they honor it simply because that's how it is set up on the website and it's not explained anywhere in the official instructions. Or maybe they just want one page now!

Exactly. It could be that they only need one now. In any case, hopefully USCIS won't hold anyone up for following their instructions and using their form as they posted it.

I have another question, since you're available now; Should I start gathering info for my I-134 now (i.e. letter from employer, letter from financial institution, etc) or does that stuff have to be dated within a certain amount of time from my fiancee's interview? I'd just as soon take care of it now and have it ready to go, but if her interview isn't for another 7 months or so, they may consider it old info. And same for her police clearance; if she gets it now, will they want a "fresh" one? Thoughts?

It's better to start a new thread for a new topic, but as long as I'm responding I'll give you my $0.02.

Hold off on this. The I-134 and evidence will carry much more weight if they are completed closer to the time of the interview. The consulate could very well request new evidence if the stuff you send is 7 months old.

Check the consulate's page for more info on the police clearance and its validity, but odds are it should be obtained closer to the interview date as well. A 6-7 month old report may well raise questions in the eyes of the consular officer reviewing the application, and that's exactly what you don't want.

[jbiel590 0]

Thanks, you have all been a big help. I was about to not sleep tonight worrying about that G-325 but I think I feel a little better!

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

Quick follow-up to your follow-up question: per the US Embassy Paris website, as long as the police record is issued within one year of the interview date, you'll be fine.

http://france.usembassy.gov/iv-faqs.html

[pushbrk 12,910]

Quick follow-up to your follow-up question: per the US Embassy Paris website, as long as the police record is issued within one year of the interview date, you'll be fine.

http://france.usembassy.gov/iv-faqs.html

"You'll be fine." is a very dangerous sentence and the website doesn't say that. They require the police report be no more than a year old at the interview but all Consulate prefer they be obtained as close to the interview as is practical. That's the best practice.

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

Quick follow-up to your follow-up question: per the US Embassy Paris website, as long as the police record is issued within one year of the interview date, you'll be fine.

http://france.usembassy.gov/iv-faqs.html

"You'll be fine." is a very dangerous sentence and the website doesn't say that. They require the police report be no more than a year old at the interview but all Consulate prefer they be obtained as close to the interview as is practical. That's the best practice.

Fair enough, "you'll be fine" was not the most precise language. Please refer to my original advice earlier in the thread:

Check the consulate's page for more info on the police clearance and its validity, but odds are it should be obtained closer to the interview date as well. A 6-7 month old report may well raise questions in the eyes of the consular officer reviewing the application, and that's exactly what you don't want.

[beinha 0]

Hey all,

A newbie here. I sent my I-129F package in just last week and thought I had done everything right. Then I came across this site today and read that I should have including FOUR copies of the G-325A for each of us. I didn't see this ANYWHERE in the instructions and now I'm panicked that things are going to get held up or denied. Anyone have a problem with including just one copy?

BTW, how is anyone supposed to know this if it's not in the I-129F instructions?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Reminder: Submit Four Copies of Biometric Page on USCIS G-325A Form

August 22nd, 2009

by VJ News VisaJourney would like to remind all petitioners that are required to file a USCIS G-325A Biographic Information Form to submit four copies of the Biographical Information page (page one on the newest form). In the past the G-325A form contained four pages that automatically printed out (with the same information on all pages). The new form only has one page. VisaJourney will be following up with USCIS to determine if using the new form (as released) and only submitting one copy of the Biographic Information page (as the new form prints) is the method the USCIS intended or if it was a mistake on the form. Until then it is recommend that petitioners submit four copies of the Biographic Information page with their petition. We will provide USCIS's response to this question here once we get clarification from them. updated, Aug 23 2008

http://www.visajourney.com/news/2009/08/22...is-g-325a-form/

Edited August 27, 2009 by beinha

[Stephen + Elisha 92]

Hey all,

A newbie here. I sent my I-129F package in just last week and thought I had done everything right. Then I came across this site today and read that I should have including FOUR copies of the G-325A for each of us. I didn't see this ANYWHERE in the instructions and now I'm panicked that things are going to get held up or denied. Anyone have a problem with including just one copy?

BTW, how is anyone supposed to know this if it's not in the I-129F instructions?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Reminder: Submit Four Copies of Biometric Page on USCIS G-325A Form

August 22nd, 2009

by VJ News VisaJourney would like to remind all petitioners that are required to file a USCIS G-325A Biographic Information Form to submit four copies of the Biographical Information page (page one on the newest form). In the past the G-325A form contained four pages that automatically printed out (with the same information on all pages). The new form only has one page. VisaJourney will be following up with USCIS to determine if using the new form (as released) and only submitting one copy of the Biographic Information page (as the new form prints) is the method the USCIS intended or if it was a mistake on the form. Until then it is recommend that petitioners submit four copies of the Biographic Information page with their petition. We will provide USCIS's response to this question here once we get clarification from them. updated, Aug 23 2008

http://www.visajourney.com/news/2009/08/22...is-g-325a-form/

Not terribly useful for the OP, considering he's already submitted his petition. Way to read the thread.

Once again, I am aware of no cases of RFEs for submitting only a single page of the new form.

[beinha 0]

Hey all,

A newbie here. I sent my I-129F package in just last week and thought I had done everything right. Then I came across this site today and read that I should have including FOUR copies of the G-325A for each of us. I didn't see this ANYWHERE in the instructions and now I'm panicked that things are going to get held up or denied. Anyone have a problem with including just one copy?

BTW, how is anyone supposed to know this if it's not in the I-129F instructions?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Reminder: Submit Four Copies of Biometric Page on USCIS G-325A Form

August 22nd, 2009

by VJ News VisaJourney would like to remind all petitioners that are required to file a USCIS G-325A Biographic Information Form to submit four copies of the Biographical Information page (page one on the newest form). In the past the G-325A form contained four pages that automatically printed out (with the same information on all pages). The new form only has one page. VisaJourney will be following up with USCIS to determine if using the new form (as released) and only submitting one copy of the Biographic Information page (as the new form prints) is the method the USCIS intended or if it was a mistake on the form. Until then it is recommend that petitioners submit four copies of the Biographic Information page with their petition. We will provide USCIS's response to this question here once we get clarification from them. updated, Aug 23 2008

http://www.visajourney.com/news/2009/08/22...is-g-325a-form/

Not terribly useful for the OP, considering he's already submitted his petition. Way to read the thread.

Once again, I am aware of no cases of RFEs for submitting only a single page of the new form.

Ok... You think it's not useful, I think it's useful. FYI I did read the thread and, if you are aware of no cases of RFEs.... it doesn't mean they doesn't exist, right? Anyway....

And, for the OP, he can call them/email them to ask how to proceed on his situation, so, I do think my information could be useful.

It's not good to try to prove you are right all the time, considering how hard this process is and how things can be very different to each of us.

In my case, I have got my NOA2 in 16 days... who would tell?

Let's try to help, not to be right

With respect,

Beinha

Edited August 27, 2009 by beinha

[jbiel590 0]

Whoa! Easy everybody! I didn't mean to start trouble here!

I do appreciate the feedback from everyone. While I am now aware of the advice from Visajourney regarding sending four G-325A forms, I have to say, I should not have to read a third-party website to learn this. It should be in the instructions provided by USCIS.

So my hope at this point (because it's all I really have!) is that they realize 1) the form on their website prints out only once, and 2) the instructions on the I-129F asks the petioner to send "a" G-325A (NOT four), and therefore accept what I've submitted as correct. I would be interested in hearing from anyone else who submitted only one and made it through the process.

Edited August 27, 2009 by jbiel590