Limbaugh tells caller who can't afford $6,000 to treat broken wrist: "Well, you shouldn't have broken your wrist"

[HAL 9000 96]

How is getting sick "an action"?

Blaming people for getting sick is more than a little silly.

Well you know... people have choices on what illnesses to fall victim to.

So are you going to ignore the fact that most of our health issues come from our own actions? And once again I said most not all

I'm going to have to go and check a few hallways over to see if your statement is factually true. As someone that actually works in biomedicine, I think I can blame most health conditions as genetic and environmental in origin vs assuming most health issues are a result of obesity, induced diabetes, and user-created actions. Notice I am not condemning you for thinking that heart disease is mostly caused by eating one too many steaks or that bones are broken by falling off a motorbike- since those are not the only or even most of the health concerns people seek treatment for.

[_Simpson_ 250]

How is getting sick "an action"?

Blaming people for getting sick is more than a little silly.

Pike most of our health issues are a result of our actions/decisions. Smoking, drinking, overeating...

So if someone's kid gets Leukemia say, your opinion is that its their fault. Wow.

If you slip on ice and snap your ankle, that's your fault too presumably.

And what about if you get e-coli poisoning from a restaurant? - sorry its your fault, ** you.

I said most not all but theres another type of responsibility that can be applied here, take the responsibility of covering your #### in case things like this happen.

I love how its so simple for you.

But lets make this even simpler - people DO take personal responsibility for their actions: its why most bankruptcies in this country are directly attributable to healthcare costs.

Its not that simple and lets face were not exactly talking in depth right now on this topic so no need for the " I love how its so simple for you" line.

[HAL 9000 96]

Its definitely not simple. So it would be really inaccurate to blame most health care users seeking treatment without really having an idea about how medical conditions can come about in many combinatorial ways.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How is getting sick "an action"?

Blaming people for getting sick is more than a little silly.

Pike most of our health issues are a result of our actions/decisions. Smoking, drinking, overeating...

So if someone's kid gets Leukemia say, your opinion is that its their fault. Wow.

If you slip on ice and snap your ankle, that's your fault too presumably.

And what about if you get e-coli poisoning from a restaurant? - sorry its your fault, ** you.

I said most not all but theres another type of responsibility that can be applied here, take the responsibility of covering your #### in case things like this happen.

I love how its so simple for you.

But lets make this even simpler - people DO take personal responsibility for their actions: its why most bankruptcies in this country are directly attributable to healthcare costs.

Its not that simple and lets face were not exactly talking in depth right now on this topic so no need for the " I love how its so simple for you" line.

There's every need when you come out with stupid chit!

[_Simpson_ 250]

How is getting sick "an action"?

Blaming people for getting sick is more than a little silly.

Well you know... people have choices on what illnesses to fall victim to.

So are you going to ignore the fact that most of our health issues come from our own actions? And once again I said most not all

I'm going to have to go and check a few hallways over to see if your statement is factually true. As someone that actually works in biomedicine, I think I can blame most health conditions as genetic and environmental in origin vs assuming most health issues are a result of obesity, induced diabetes, and user-created actions. Notice I am not condemning you for thinking that heart disease is mostly caused by eating one too many steaks or that bones are broken by falling off a motorbike- since those are not the only or even most of the health concerns people seek treatment for.

Was he speeding on the that motorbike?

Theres smoking and drinking you have failed to address.

Lets face it most doctor visits are contributed to decisions we have made.

[HAL 9000 96]

How is getting sick "an action"?

Blaming people for getting sick is more than a little silly.

Well you know... people have choices on what illnesses to fall victim to.

So are you going to ignore the fact that most of our health issues come from our own actions? And once again I said most not all

I'm going to have to go and check a few hallways over to see if your statement is factually true. As someone that actually works in biomedicine, I think I can blame most health conditions as genetic and environmental in origin vs assuming most health issues are a result of obesity, induced diabetes, and user-created actions. Notice I am not condemning you for thinking that heart disease is mostly caused by eating one too many steaks or that bones are broken by falling off a motorbike- since those are not the only or even most of the health concerns people seek treatment for.

Was he speeding on the that motorbike?

Theres smoking and drinking you have failed to address.

Lets face it most doctor visits are contributed to decisions we have made.

Colds, Flu, Hereditary Disease, slip/falls... yeah... I don't think you're accurate there.

Besides what are 10 year old alcoholic smokers doing in the doctor's office? So many of those!!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

This responsibility guff is such a poor premise:

Mental illness? - it was your fault that you got abused!

Flu? - You must not have washed your hands! That'll learn you!

Parkinsons? - Don't give me any of that genetic illness ####### - its still your fault!

Cancer? - It must have been something you did. People don't get cancer for no reason, ya-know!

Birth Defects? - It was your fault you came out of the womb the wrong way

[Peikko 1,575]

Talk about conditioning, how did that come about, that there are people that believe their health is purely in their own hands? That's the difficulty with trying counter arguments in a nut shell on health care, or so it appears, this hard core of people who believe that if you get sick it's down to something you did or did not do. How totally sad.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What's the point of it anyway - are there going to be tribunal hearings to determine whether or not a patient's illness is attributable to "reckless" behaviour?

Computah says nahhh!

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

What's the point of it anyway - are there going to be tribunal hearings to determine whether or not a patient's illness is attributable to "reckless" behaviour?

Computah says nahhh!

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[one...two...tree 2,762]

Talk about conditioning, how did that come about, that there are people that believe their health is purely in their own hands? That's the difficulty with trying counter arguments in a nut shell on health care, or so it appears, this hard core of people who believe that if you get sick it's down to something you did or did not do. How totally sad.

It's taking the idea of individual responsibility to an extreme. There is the prevailing notion that helping someone is being a crutch (not really helping). According to many on the Right - people are in poverty entirely by choice and it is entirely their choice to seek medical attention if they want it. It's a very simplistic view about economics, but I say if Right Wingers want to hold that view, let them. Just let the American hear these views and they'll see just how unpopular their POV is, particularly when millions of Americans can't afford health insurance.

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't know about left wing/right wing. I do know that this view is exploited by those who do not want to have the insurance stranglehold challenged.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't know about left wing/right wing. I do know that this view is exploited by those who do not want to have the insurance stranglehold challenged.

MC, there are different mindsets about the role of government in this country. You can't avoid using some label to describe those differences.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Anything deemed unhealthy will void you're health coverage. Just like the tax on the "fat" people that was proposed. Lets see if that makes it into the final bill.

I'd respond to all my fans one by one here, but i've been working all day and didn't have time before several pages accumulated. So You'll just have to be satisfied with a drive-by one liner.

Cheers.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Naturally if you buy the idea that the provision of healthcare ought to be an entirely profit-driven commodity, the quality of which is dependent purely on how much money you have in the bank - its simply convenient to assign blame to people for getting sick.

The reality of course is that $hit happens, usually at the worst possible time, and that you discover very quickly that the current system we have is not on your side.

Again - no coincidence that the majority of private bankruptcies are due largely to healthcare costs (and there is a link to that).