Limbaugh tells caller who can't afford $6,000 to treat broken wrist: "Well, you shouldn't have broken your wrist"

[Tahoma 2,292]

Picture it.. VJ 2009..

Joseph is accused of stereotyping the left during every post he makes...

At the same time, those same accusers make post after post saying conservatives hate small children with muscular dystrophy and want them to die.

Priceless...

Do you always talk about yourself in the third person?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Marc needs his change for another Forty

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Picture it.. VJ 2009..

Joseph is accused of stereotyping the left during every post he makes...

At the same time, those same accusers make post after post saying conservatives hate small children with muscular dystrophy and want them to die.

Priceless...

Do you always talk about yourself in the third person?

He's Bob Dole.

[Tahoma 2,292]

Its funny how much liberals "care" and want healthcare for all. Ok, why don't they band together and volunteer to pay for it? No, they want to force everyone else into trillions and trillions of more debt. It isn't about prosperity for all, its that they are miserable and want misery spread equally.

Band together and volunteer to pay for it? Hey, that's a good idea. Isn't that the same thing you did to pay for Bush's wars, military spending, corporate welfare, and tax cuts for the wealthy? Did it work well for you?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Its funny how much liberals "care" and want healthcare for all. Ok, why don't they band together and volunteer to pay for it? No, they want to force everyone else into trillions and trillions of more debt. It isn't about prosperity for all, its that they are miserable and want misery spread equally.

Band together and volunteer to pay for it? Hey, that's a good idea. Isn't that the same thing you did to pay for Bush's wars, military spending, corporate welfare, and tax cuts for the wealthy? Did it work well for you?

Stop making sense. There's no place for sense in OT.

[Danno 1,228]

Joseph, it is the Right that is fundamentally against government programs like Social Security and Medicare. Their answer - leave it up to the private sector to take care of the handicapped in this country who cannot care for themselves, but on the other side of their argument, they're saying SS and Medicare are unsustainable. In other words, the Right has no answer - except that it's not their problem. But feel free to tell me about a viable solution to help those cannot help themselves without using SS or Medicare.

IF this is so true, do you misrepresent sound bites (like this), why not post real clips of Rush calling for an end to SSI for little old ladies?

By the way, in his conversation with this caller he made a lot of sense about "Why the guys bill was so high and what to do about it."

Danno, the Right have long wanted to 'privatize' Social Security, which essentially means getting the government out of it all together. That's no secret. Same with Medicare. Do a little research and look who were fundamentally opposed to both programs when they were first proposed. Reagan was staunchly against Medicare. FDR was called a Socialist for proposing Social Security. You'd have to be living in a cave not to know where the Right stands on those two programs. That said, true Conservatives do not oppose those programs now, given that they are now established (traditional). But ideologically, most on the Right are fundamentally against any government social programs, including public education, which makes it pathetic that political hacks on the Right have been trying to scare grandma that Obama wants to take away her Medicare and SS.

Sure they opposed those bills for the very reason we have before us today..... Massive fraud, wildly expanded groups collecting monthly... often without ever contributing and now we have a sno-ball of debt heading right for us while more and more people are collecting and fewer paying in.

Explain to me why working families, should be taxed to pay for Warren Buffets meds?

[zqt3344 21]

Danno has a point. Book em Danno!

Joseph, it is the Right that is fundamentally against government programs like Social Security and Medicare. Their answer - leave it up to the private sector to take care of the handicapped in this country who cannot care for themselves, but on the other side of their argument, they're saying SS and Medicare are unsustainable. In other words, the Right has no answer - except that it's not their problem. But feel free to tell me about a viable solution to help those cannot help themselves without using SS or Medicare.

IF this is so true, do you misrepresent sound bites (like this), why not post real clips of Rush calling for an end to SSI for little old ladies?

By the way, in his conversation with this caller he made a lot of sense about "Why the guys bill was so high and what to do about it."

Danno, the Right have long wanted to 'privatize' Social Security, which essentially means getting the government out of it all together. That's no secret. Same with Medicare. Do a little research and look who were fundamentally opposed to both programs when they were first proposed. Reagan was staunchly against Medicare. FDR was called a Socialist for proposing Social Security. You'd have to be living in a cave not to know where the Right stands on those two programs. That said, true Conservatives do not oppose those programs now, given that they are now established (traditional). But ideologically, most on the Right are fundamentally against any government social programs, including public education, which makes it pathetic that political hacks on the Right have been trying to scare grandma that Obama wants to take away her Medicare and SS.

Sure they opposed those bills for the very reason we have before us today..... Massive fraud, wildly expanded groups collecting monthly... often without ever contributing and now we have a sno-ball of debt heading right for us while more and more people are collecting and fewer paying in.

Explain to me why working families, should be taxed to pay for Warren Buffets meds?

[Danno 1,228]

Danno has a point. Book em Danno!

Danno always has a point!

... and time, most often proves him right

[_Simpson_ 250]

Its funny how much liberals "care" and want healthcare for all. Ok, why don't they band together and volunteer to pay for it? No, they want to force everyone else into trillions and trillions of more debt. It isn't about prosperity for all, its that they are miserable and want misery spread equally.

Band together and volunteer to pay for it? Hey, that's a good idea. Isn't that the same thing you did to pay for Bush's wars, military spending, corporate welfare, and tax cuts for the wealthy? Did it work well for you?

It wasn't just Bush's war, the American people were behind it so hate on all of us that supported the war and not just Bush ok. I hate to see him get all the #######.

Edited August 21, 2009 by looking_up

[Peikko 1,575]

Danno has a point. Book em Danno!

Danno always has a point!

... and time, most often proves him right

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Its funny how much liberals "care" and want healthcare for all. Ok, why don't they band together and volunteer to pay for it? No, they want to force everyone else into trillions and trillions of more debt. It isn't about prosperity for all, its that they are miserable and want misery spread equally.

Band together and volunteer to pay for it? Hey, that's a good idea. Isn't that the same thing you did to pay for Bush's wars, military spending, corporate welfare, and tax cuts for the wealthy? Did it work well for you?

It wasn't just Bush's war, the some American people were behind it so hate on all of us that supported the war and not just Bush ok. I hate to see him get all the #######.

So, you war supporters are now ready to pay up on that war you wanted? That'll bring anywhere from 1-2 trillion dollars into the federal coffers. Nice. Much appreciated.

[tmma 467]

does anyone have a clue what the public option will cost the individual that buys it instead of private insurance? or has that even been calculated?

Good question. Nobody was asking that at the Townhalls, they were too concerned with the government taking over. I will ask next time. Or do some more reading.

Hey, -I participated in a town hall meeting-and I asked that very question (amongst many questions) and a bunch of people said 'yes-we need to know that' the answer was

It will be cheaper as a whole-that's pretty much a certainty

Now, interpret that as you may. I interpreted it as 'we don't really know yet' which was basically the answer to most of the questions that were put forth.

edit-I've been reading and researching and attempting to apply what's out there ( minus all the BS eitherway) because my family is a mixture of retired medicare-private insurance-employer insurance and Tricare.

Edited August 21, 2009 by tmma

[HAL 9000 96]

does anyone have a clue what the public option will cost the individual that buys it instead of private insurance? or has that even been calculated?

Very good question Smoke. That's kind of like asking people if they've at least attempted reading the current bills.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How can anyone know when the details haven't been finalised?

[tmma 467]

How can anyone know when the details haven't been finalised?

So why have a question/answer session at a meeting if you are not prepared to answer questions?