Suspicious about Background Check

[rebeccajo 14]

AND what if he doesn't win the case? Not only will he lose the job but he'd be hard pressed to find another one once word got around that he's someone who will file a suit. He's going to change jobs once he gets back from his trip to Cairo so for now he just suffers through it all. The money's still good but it could be a LOT better if the guy wasn't such an azz.

I guess it depends on how badly he wants to work - or how important it is financially for him to work. I don't want to hurt your feelings by getting into a discussion with you about either of those. All I can say that for me, in the most personal of senses, I would not want my husband working under those circumstances. But that is just me.

Let's just leave it at this - I'm glad to hear he is planning on seeking other employment.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

It's all been settled btw.

[rebeccajo 14]

It's all been settled btw.

Well, good then.

[Y's_habibitk 2]

It's all been settled btw.

so he got the job?

[Chica Yeyé 41]

idk --- but it is part of the school policies. It is common when foreign faculty/staff are hired to do so -- and the cost goes to the hiring department. I checked for sister Alhayat.

[Y's_habibitk 2]

idk --- but it is part of the school policies. It is common when foreign faculty/staff are hired to do so -- and the cost goes to the hiring department. I checked for sister Alhayat.

cool. I thought it might be something to do with it being a university. anyway, im glad for her.

[AlHayatZween 2]

Indeed, Sister Len did some PI work of her own. Many thanks for that!

Yes, i agree it's a lot of paperwork to process, and i have no idea of the legal specifics, but will definitely read up on Rebeccajo's websites, just because it would be important to know all that stuff in any event.

i think he has the job pending the criminal background check, which they do require of all employees. He interviewed and gave him his state dl and ss card and green card for the I9, because i think they made him fill out the I9 on the spot. i think he gave them everything because he is so super self-conscious (for better or for worse) that people know he's here legally to work.

i agree, all the other documents for the background check seems excessive, but i think they do it to check his criminal background in Morocco... same as they would check mine in New Jersey, i guess, if i applied for the same job?

Now, i'm just curious to see if their private agency completes criminal background checks in Morocco faster than the State Department.

But in any event, thanks for all the good advice. i'll let you know how it goes!

[AlHayatZween 2]

That's a lot of effort for a part time job, and counsel cost $$$$$. My husband's boss told him several times that he hates muslims. He constantly puts him in the section that has the least amount of action in the restaurant and berates him every chance he gets. We won't do a thing because counsel cost $$$$$$ and in the end they'd just find a stupid reason to get rid of him.

That's the problem with a lot of these laws. It's great in theory that they're on the books but they're not that enforceable unless you have time, $$$, and another job already lined up.

DB, that is terrible & sorry to hear it is so rough. Hope he finds another job soon!

[GabiandVi 34]

how do you know they dont do the same thing for all applicants? my company does. including a check to make sure that you are legal to work in the us, if you are not then they are breaking the law.

How does your employer do a 'check' to make sure someone is 'legal to work'.

I presume you are aware that any such checks cannot be performed until someone is actually hired.

In the case of the OP, her husband has not even been offered the job. Employers cannot ask for identifying documents until someone has been hired.

The OP said "they gave him a temporary okay" in her first post ..IE- they offered him the job but want to preform the checks...

So, how are they breaking the law?

My understanding is the employee has to actually be hired before any identifying documents can be requested. I am unclear as to how a 'temporary OK' would be a 'hiring'. Perhaps it is.

At any rate, my understanding is that the husband in question was asked to produce these documents prior to his offer of employement. Perhaps I am wrong there.

If a person possesses a driver's license and a state ID then that satisfies the requirements of the I9. An employer cannot ask to see a greencard. I interpreted the post as he was required to produce a greencard before anything was mentioned about a background check.

I have had my background checked before for jobs. I have never been asked to provide ANY documentation other than signing a form that I consented to the check. My husband (the immigrant) had a background check for a prior job and there was no request for documents on that employer's part.

The extant question here would be (if the University requires a background check on employees) what documents does it request from employees?

I think we have to remember we are dealing with an educational institution. They require different types of checks on employees. Before I could be officially hired by my school district, I had to be fingerprinted and have a background check. It wasn't as extensive as it sounds like is being done here, but I had to give all my information before I was hired. I had been fingerprinted once before when I first started working in public schools here about 17 years ago, but I guess they wanted a digital fingerprint now that I was gettng back in the system. The same thing is done for janitors, secretaries, bus drivers, people who work in the main office nowhere near students. It's a state law. It's part a sincere effort to protect the students and part a CYA thing.