Woman gives birth on pavement 'after being refused ambulance'

[natty bumppo 297]

'They said they were not sending an ambulance and told me I had had nine months to sort out a lift.'

Wow. That's some tough love, right there.

Insurance would never be that rude to you. To the contrary, they'd let you listen to soothing elevator music to calm your nerves and facilitate a smooth delivery.

They provide that service even when you are not covered by the insurance?

happens in houston ... just look at the illegals getting free services for child birth

[HAL 9000 96]

gotta love the wonderful display of humanity here.

[natty bumppo 297]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get. Its the usual neener-neener rubbish which serves the sole purpose of dismissing any sort of attempt to reform the problems of the healthcare system in *this* country.

NHS has been around for 70 years or so, it isn't going anywhere and no political party in the UK would get elected on the promise of disbanding it. That doesn't mean that people are (or should be) happy with the service it provides - and there are indeed many problems, which successive governments have tried to address with varying success.

The idea that anyone will have a utopian system is laughable, but the US can do a heck of a lot better than a system that approximately 1/6 of the national population have not have affordable access to.

National Health Service started on July 5 1948. (hint from another thread ... after WWII)

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/HistoryNHS.html

guess math wasn't your favorite subject

Is there some point to this Natty - or are you just trying to score points by being a #######?

Perhaps I just don't get your sense of humour, but whichever way you cut it this kind of thing really only makes you look pretty stupid.

hey what's a 6 vs 7 (or a decade) among friends?

i mean ... after the NHS discussion/lend lease/rebuild the country/UK repayment for war material loans discussion last week ... heck ... what's wrong with correcting an "honest" mistake?

You have a peculiar talent for seizing on trivialities in lieu of anything to say on the topic.

Clearly you feel that some victory is achieved by this. Stranger and stranger.

name calling ... now projecting

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get. Its the usual neener-neener rubbish which serves the sole purpose of dismissing any sort of attempt to reform the problems of the healthcare system in *this* country.

NHS has been around for 70 years or so, it isn't going anywhere and no political party in the UK would get elected on the promise of disbanding it. That doesn't mean that people are (or should be) happy with the service it provides - and there are indeed many problems, which successive governments have tried to address with varying success.

The idea that anyone will have a utopian system is laughable, but the US can do a heck of a lot better than a system that approximately 1/6 of the national population have not have affordable access to.

National Health Service started on July 5 1948. (hint from another thread ... after WWII)

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/HistoryNHS.html

guess math wasn't your favorite subject

Is there some point to this Natty - or are you just trying to score points by being a #######?

Perhaps I just don't get your sense of humour, but whichever way you cut it this kind of thing really only makes you look pretty stupid.

hey what's a 6 vs 7 (or a decade) among friends?

i mean ... after the NHS discussion/lend lease/rebuild the country/UK repayment for war material loans discussion last week ... heck ... what's wrong with correcting an "honest" mistake?

You have a peculiar talent for seizing on trivialities in lieu of anything to say on the topic.

Clearly you feel that some victory is achieved by this. Stranger and stranger.

name calling ... now projecting

Baiting followed by more baiting Funny it isn't and I don't - except in the sense of how pathetic it is.

[natty bumppo 297]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get. Its the usual neener-neener rubbish which serves the sole purpose of dismissing any sort of attempt to reform the problems of the healthcare system in *this* country.

NHS has been around for 70 years or so, it isn't going anywhere and no political party in the UK would get elected on the promise of disbanding it. That doesn't mean that people are (or should be) happy with the service it provides - and there are indeed many problems, which successive governments have tried to address with varying success.

The idea that anyone will have a utopian system is laughable, but the US can do a heck of a lot better than a system that approximately 1/6 of the national population have not have affordable access to.

National Health Service started on July 5 1948. (hint from another thread ... after WWII)

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/HistoryNHS.html

guess math wasn't your favorite subject

Is there some point to this Natty - or are you just trying to score points by being a #######?

Perhaps I just don't get your sense of humour, but whichever way you cut it this kind of thing really only makes you look pretty stupid.

hey what's a 6 vs 7 (or a decade) among friends?

i mean ... after the NHS discussion/lend lease/rebuild the country/UK repayment for war material loans discussion last week ... heck ... what's wrong with correcting an "honest" mistake?

You have a peculiar talent for seizing on trivialities in lieu of anything to say on the topic.

Clearly you feel that some victory is achieved by this. Stranger and stranger.

name calling ... now projecting

Baiting followed by more baiting Funny it isn't and I don't - except in the sense of how pathetic it is.

baiting? sorry ... not from my direction. now if it was MC .... I'd be looking for some "special bait"

oh well ... enjoy

[jundp 191]

They provide that service even when you are not covered by the insurance?

Sure. You just have to pay an arm and a leg or get sent to collections afterwards if you can't pay your medical bill.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

We were advised by the hospital to drive there for the delivery, including my wife if she had to. A woman going into labor is suppose to time her contractions and the time between contractions is what she is to gauge before checking herself into the hospital. There have been plenty of babies born in cars and taxis. I don't know all the details of this particular case, but I imagine some culpability lies with the woman. I'm pretty sure, if a woman going into labor here in the states, dials 911, the dispatcher will assess whether an ambulance is actually needed. So making this into a problem with the health care system is not accurate.

Edited August 18, 2009 by Col. 'Bat' Guano

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Edit: I should add that the hospital told us that they would send my wife home (refuse to admit her) unless certain conditions existed. The main condition - time between the contractions.

[HAL 9000 96]

Sounds like communism at work.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

'They said they were not sending an ambulance and told me I had had nine months to sort out a lift.'

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

When I'm 70 I want to be soylent green!

[mawilson 2,133]

I'm pretty sure, if a woman going into labor here in the states, dials 911, the dispatcher will assess whether an ambulance is actually needed.

Another example of a government bureaucrat standing between you and your doctor.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Fvckin right wing haters!

[luckytxn 2,265]

Wow! I am just gonna hope that the next time this lady will know to sort out a lift.

[mawilson 2,133]

Too bad it wasn't Octomom.