Woman gives birth on pavement 'after being refused ambulance'

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

No. This is much, much worse. This is a glimpse into the evil that is Socialism. NHS actually wished she would die in childbirth, this was purposeful neglect.

I know somebody who was refused care by a big health provider too. She needed a small growth removed from her nose that was preventing her from breathing properly when asleep and causing apnoea. Apparently such a thing was considered a "cosmetic procedure" by some suit in a cubical who never saw the patient.

It was my wife, denied by her private health insurance provider, in the United States.

The moral of the story? The NHS doesn't have the monopoly on ###### up medical decisions.

That story is a lie.

[JeremyR 8]

No. This is much, much worse. This is a glimpse into the evil that is Socialism. NHS actually wished she would die in childbirth, this was purposeful neglect.

I know somebody who was refused care by a big health provider too. She needed a small growth removed from her nose that was preventing her from breathing properly when asleep and causing apnoea. Apparently such a thing was considered a "cosmetic procedure" by some suit in a cubical who never saw the patient.

It was my wife, denied by her private health insurance provider, in the United States.

The moral of the story? The NHS doesn't have the monopoly on ###### up medical decisions.

That story is a lie.

Idiot. (leaves thread, I shouldn't be in places like this, hell I'm probably a communist in your eyes, huh? Better revoke that Green card, I ticked a box to say I wasn't one, remember?)

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

No. This is much, much worse. This is a glimpse into the evil that is Socialism. NHS actually wished she would die in childbirth, this was purposeful neglect.

I know somebody who was refused care by a big health provider too. She needed a small growth removed from her nose that was preventing her from breathing properly when asleep and causing apnoea. Apparently such a thing was considered a "cosmetic procedure" by some suit in a cubical who never saw the patient.

It was my wife, denied by her private health insurance provider, in the United States.

The moral of the story? The NHS doesn't have the monopoly on ###### up medical decisions.

That story is a lie.

Idiot. (leaves thread, I shouldn't be in places like this, hell I'm probably a communist in your eyes, huh? Better revoke that Green card, I ticked a box to say I wasn't one, remember?)

The NHS can never hold a candle to private insurance. Private insurance is humane and kind and run by gentlemen. NHS is run by socialist pigs fattened on the public dole.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get. Its the usual neener-neener rubbish which serves the sole purpose of dismissing any sort of attempt to reform the problems of the healthcare system in *this* country.

NHS has been around for 70 years or so, it isn't going anywhere and no political party in the UK would get elected on the promise of disbanding it. That doesn't mean that people are (or should be) happy with the service it provides - and there are indeed many problems, which successive governments have tried to address with varying success.

The idea that anyone will have a utopian system is laughable, but the US can do a heck of a lot better than a system that approximately 1/6 of the national population have not have affordable access to.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get.

Esp. since the system actually being considered is much closer to the Dutch/Swiss model.

[Peikko 1,575]

No. This is much, much worse. This is a glimpse into the evil that is Socialism. NHS actually wished she would die in childbirth, this was purposeful neglect.

I know somebody who was refused care by a big health provider too. She needed a small growth removed from her nose that was preventing her from breathing properly when asleep and causing apnoea. Apparently such a thing was considered a "cosmetic procedure" by some suit in a cubical who never saw the patient.

It was my wife, denied by her private health insurance provider, in the United States.

The moral of the story? The NHS doesn't have the monopoly on ###### up medical decisions.

That story is a lie.

Are you moonlighting as a shock jock again A.J?

[natty bumppo 297]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get. Its the usual neener-neener rubbish which serves the sole purpose of dismissing any sort of attempt to reform the problems of the healthcare system in *this* country.

NHS has been around for 70 years or so, it isn't going anywhere and no political party in the UK would get elected on the promise of disbanding it. That doesn't mean that people are (or should be) happy with the service it provides - and there are indeed many problems, which successive governments have tried to address with varying success.

The idea that anyone will have a utopian system is laughable, but the US can do a heck of a lot better than a system that approximately 1/6 of the national population have not have affordable access to.

National Health Service started on July 5 1948. (hint from another thread ... after WWII)

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/HistoryNHS.html

guess math wasn't your favorite subject

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get. Its the usual neener-neener rubbish which serves the sole purpose of dismissing any sort of attempt to reform the problems of the healthcare system in *this* country.

NHS has been around for 70 years or so, it isn't going anywhere and no political party in the UK would get elected on the promise of disbanding it. That doesn't mean that people are (or should be) happy with the service it provides - and there are indeed many problems, which successive governments have tried to address with varying success.

The idea that anyone will have a utopian system is laughable, but the US can do a heck of a lot better than a system that approximately 1/6 of the national population have not have affordable access to.

National Health Service started on July 5 1948. (hint from another thread ... after WWII)

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/HistoryNHS.html

guess math wasn't your favorite subject

NHS actively discourages math.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get. Its the usual neener-neener rubbish which serves the sole purpose of dismissing any sort of attempt to reform the problems of the healthcare system in *this* country.

NHS has been around for 70 years or so, it isn't going anywhere and no political party in the UK would get elected on the promise of disbanding it. That doesn't mean that people are (or should be) happy with the service it provides - and there are indeed many problems, which successive governments have tried to address with varying success.

The idea that anyone will have a utopian system is laughable, but the US can do a heck of a lot better than a system that approximately 1/6 of the national population have not have affordable access to.

National Health Service started on July 5 1948. (hint from another thread ... after WWII)

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/HistoryNHS.html

guess math wasn't your favorite subject

Is there some point to this Natty - or are you just trying to score points by being a #######?

Perhaps I just don't get your sense of humour, but whichever way you cut it this kind of thing really only makes you look pretty stupid.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Pike, you would know math if you grew up with private insurance.

NHS wants you to be mathematically-challenged, that way you can't call them on their shenanigans!

[Krikit 1,165]

'They said they were not sending an ambulance and told me I had had nine months to sort out a lift.'

Wow. That's some tough love, right there.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

'They said they were not sending an ambulance and told me I had had nine months to sort out a lift.'

Wow. That's some tough love, right there.

Insurance would never be that rude to you. To the contrary, they'd let you listen to soothing elevator music to calm your nerves and facilitate a smooth delivery.

[natty bumppo 297]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get. Its the usual neener-neener rubbish which serves the sole purpose of dismissing any sort of attempt to reform the problems of the healthcare system in *this* country.

NHS has been around for 70 years or so, it isn't going anywhere and no political party in the UK would get elected on the promise of disbanding it. That doesn't mean that people are (or should be) happy with the service it provides - and there are indeed many problems, which successive governments have tried to address with varying success.

The idea that anyone will have a utopian system is laughable, but the US can do a heck of a lot better than a system that approximately 1/6 of the national population have not have affordable access to.

National Health Service started on July 5 1948. (hint from another thread ... after WWII)

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/HistoryNHS.html

guess math wasn't your favorite subject

Is there some point to this Natty - or are you just trying to score points by being a #######?

Perhaps I just don't get your sense of humour, but whichever way you cut it this kind of thing really only makes you look pretty stupid.

hey what's a 6 vs 7 (or a decade) among friends?

i mean ... after the NHS discussion/lend lease/rebuild the country/UK repayment for war material loans discussion last week ... heck ... what's wrong with correcting an "honest" mistake?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Joking aside - constantly bringing up the NHS in relation to healthcare reforms in the US is as big a red herring as its possible to get. Its the usual neener-neener rubbish which serves the sole purpose of dismissing any sort of attempt to reform the problems of the healthcare system in *this* country.

NHS has been around for 70 years or so, it isn't going anywhere and no political party in the UK would get elected on the promise of disbanding it. That doesn't mean that people are (or should be) happy with the service it provides - and there are indeed many problems, which successive governments have tried to address with varying success.

The idea that anyone will have a utopian system is laughable, but the US can do a heck of a lot better than a system that approximately 1/6 of the national population have not have affordable access to.

National Health Service started on July 5 1948. (hint from another thread ... after WWII)

http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Documents/HistoryNHS.html

guess math wasn't your favorite subject

Is there some point to this Natty - or are you just trying to score points by being a #######?

Perhaps I just don't get your sense of humour, but whichever way you cut it this kind of thing really only makes you look pretty stupid.

hey what's a 6 vs 7 (or a decade) among friends?

i mean ... after the NHS discussion/lend lease/rebuild the country/UK repayment for war material loans discussion last week ... heck ... what's wrong with correcting an "honest" mistake?

You have a peculiar talent for seizing on trivialities in lieu of anything to say on the topic.

Clearly you feel that some victory is achieved by this. Stranger and stranger.

[Peikko 1,575]

'They said they were not sending an ambulance and told me I had had nine months to sort out a lift.'

Wow. That's some tough love, right there.

Insurance would never be that rude to you. To the contrary, they'd let you listen to soothing elevator music to calm your nerves and facilitate a smooth delivery.

They provide that service even when you are not covered by the insurance?