Public option is dead. It's official.

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Those damn public opinion poll thugs. It is nice to see that Obama the Socialist uses the method where he sticks his finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing. This should bring a few more sheep back to the flock.

You're a Socialist in denial.

Indeed he is. And W used public opinion polls all the time. It's just want the politicians do to pander to their interests.

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Those damn public opinion poll thugs. It is nice to see that Obama the Socialist uses the method where he sticks his finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing. This should bring a few more sheep back to the flock.

You're a Socialist in denial.

Indeed he is. And W used public opinion polls all the time. It's just want the politicians do to pander to their interests.

If people are going to throw that term around so loosely, lets be consistent and admit just how much of a dirty Socialist each and every one of us are.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Those damn public opinion poll thugs. It is nice to see that Obama the Socialist uses the method where he sticks his finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing. This should bring a few more sheep back to the flock.

You're a Socialist in denial.

Indeed he is. And W used public opinion polls all the time. It's just want the politicians do to pander to their interests.

If people are going to throw that term around so loosely, lets be consistent and admit just how much of a dirty Socialist each and every one of us are.

You havent had a shower today?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Socialized Medicine isn't the way to go.. Let's hope they come up with a better plan!!! Like the $5,000 a year health rebate that John McCain had , I could buy pretty good coverage for $400-500 a month for my family, At least I could pick my plan and Doctors this way

What coverage can you buy for your family as an individual for 400-500 a month? I'd really like to know 'cause the group plan that my employer offers costs right about twice the high end of your figure and carries a 500/1000 deductible with 90/10 split after that. So, if I can go out and buy a plan like that for my family for half the cost or less, I'd certainly be interested.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I'm actually for a benevolent dictatorship myself. The only problem is that I'm the only one I'd trust as Dictator in Chief.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

The Left didn't care enough about preserving the public option to even show up at town halls to fight for it. This was like shooting fish in a barrel. Funny how politicians will listen when we steadfastly remind them who's boss.

Ive noticed that theyre running a little slim lately around here too.

That's because they took our computer privileges away at the homeless shelters.

Be grateful that those of us making $250,000/yr or more give you beggers a place to live at all

Thank God. I still think Obama has tricks up his sleeve. This was his big chance to ensure democrat control for decades, it is not abandoned lightly.

I still don't understand why it is so important to get Republican support. There are enough Democrats to just pass what they want.

Because misery loves company.

[Ban Hammer 13,676]

Thank God. I still think Obama has tricks up his sleeve. This was his big chance to ensure democrat control for decades, it is not abandoned lightly.

I still don't understand why it is so important to get Republican support. There are enough Democrats to just pass what they want.

Because misery loves company.

and it helps to share the blame when things go wrong.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Socialized Medicine isn't the way to go.. Let's hope they come up with a better plan!!! Like the $5,000 a year health rebate that John McCain had , I could buy pretty good coverage for $400-500 a month for my family, At least I could pick my plan and Doctors this way

What coverage can you buy for your family as an individual for 400-500 a month? I'd really like to know 'cause the group plan that my employer offers costs right about twice the high end of your figure and carries a 500/1000 deductible with 90/10 split after that. So, if I can go out and buy a plan like that for my family for half the cost or less, I'd certainly be interested.

I dont see the word quality?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Socialized Medicine isn't the way to go.. Let's hope they come up with a better plan!!! Like the $5,000 a year health rebate that John McCain had , I could buy pretty good coverage for $400-500 a month for my family, At least I could pick my plan and Doctors this way

What coverage can you buy for your family as an individual for 400-500 a month? I'd really like to know 'cause the group plan that my employer offers costs right about twice the high end of your figure and carries a 500/1000 deductible with 90/10 split after that. So, if I can go out and buy a plan like that for my family for half the cost or less, I'd certainly be interested.

I dont see the word quality?

Neither did I which is why I inquired what's actually available at the rate quoted.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Socialized Medicine isn't the way to go.. Let's hope they come up with a better plan!!! Like the $5,000 a year health rebate that John McCain had , I could buy pretty good coverage for $400-500 a month for my family, At least I could pick my plan and Doctors this way

What coverage can you buy for your family as an individual for 400-500 a month? I'd really like to know 'cause the group plan that my employer offers costs right about twice the high end of your figure and carries a 500/1000 deductible with 90/10 split after that. So, if I can go out and buy a plan like that for my family for half the cost or less, I'd certainly be interested.

I dont see the word quality?

Neither did I which is why I inquired what's actually available at the rate quoted.

It depends upon the age of the youngest spouse, but Kaiser in NorCal offers a pretty good family plan starting below $500 a month. For instance, subscriber, spouse, and one or more children, 35-39 costs $414/mo for a $1500 deductible plan.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Socialized Medicine isn't the way to go.. Let's hope they come up with a better plan!!! Like the $5,000 a year health rebate that John McCain had , I could buy pretty good coverage for $400-500 a month for my family, At least I could pick my plan and Doctors this way

What coverage can you buy for your family as an individual for 400-500 a month? I'd really like to know 'cause the group plan that my employer offers costs right about twice the high end of your figure and carries a 500/1000 deductible with 90/10 split after that. So, if I can go out and buy a plan like that for my family for half the cost or less, I'd certainly be interested.

I dont see the word quality?

Neither did I which is why I inquired what's actually available at the rate quoted.

It depends upon the age of the youngest spouse, but Kaiser in NorCal offers a pretty good family plan starting below $500 a month. For instance, subscriber, spouse, and one or more children, 35-39 costs $414/mo for a $1500 deductible plan.

What's the deal after the 1,500.00 deductible is met? Preventive care fully covered? Pre-existing conditions? Coverage max?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Socialized Medicine isn't the way to go.. Let's hope they come up with a better plan!!! Like the $5,000 a year health rebate that John McCain had , I could buy pretty good coverage for $400-500 a month for my family, At least I could pick my plan and Doctors this way

What coverage can you buy for your family as an individual for 400-500 a month? I'd really like to know 'cause the group plan that my employer offers costs right about twice the high end of your figure and carries a 500/1000 deductible with 90/10 split after that. So, if I can go out and buy a plan like that for my family for half the cost or less, I'd certainly be interested.

I dont see the word quality?

Neither did I which is why I inquired what's actually available at the rate quoted.

It depends upon the age of the youngest spouse, but Kaiser in NorCal offers a pretty good family plan starting below $500 a month. For instance, subscriber, spouse, and one or more children, 35-39 costs $414/mo for a $1500 deductible plan.

What's the deal after the 1,500.00 deductible is met? Preventive care fully covered? Pre-existing conditions? Coverage max?

I hope I am not violating TOS, but here is the link, and check out for yourself: http://www.kp.org

There is a medical questionaire.

Edited August 17, 2009 by Mister_Bill

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Socialized Medicine isn't the way to go.. Let's hope they come up with a better plan!!! Like the $5,000 a year health rebate that John McCain had , I could buy pretty good coverage for $400-500 a month for my family, At least I could pick my plan and Doctors this way

What coverage can you buy for your family as an individual for 400-500 a month? I'd really like to know 'cause the group plan that my employer offers costs right about twice the high end of your figure and carries a 500/1000 deductible with 90/10 split after that. So, if I can go out and buy a plan like that for my family for half the cost or less, I'd certainly be interested.

I dont see the word quality?

Neither did I which is why I inquired what's actually available at the rate quoted.

It depends upon the age of the youngest spouse, but Kaiser in NorCal offers a pretty good family plan starting below $500 a month. For instance, subscriber, spouse, and one or more children, 35-39 costs $414/mo for a $1500 deductible plan.

What's the deal after the 1,500.00 deductible is met? Preventive care fully covered? Pre-existing conditions? Coverage max?

I hope I am not violating TOS, but here is the link, and check out for yourself: http://www.kp.org

There is a medical questionaire.

No need to post links and fear violation of TOS. That bolded part answers my question on pre-existing conditions.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Socialized Medicine isn't the way to go.. Let's hope they come up with a better plan!!! Like the $5,000 a year health rebate that John McCain had , I could buy pretty good coverage for $400-500 a month for my family, At least I could pick my plan and Doctors this way

What coverage can you buy for your family as an individual for 400-500 a month? I'd really like to know 'cause the group plan that my employer offers costs right about twice the high end of your figure and carries a 500/1000 deductible with 90/10 split after that. So, if I can go out and buy a plan like that for my family for half the cost or less, I'd certainly be interested.

I dont see the word quality?

Neither did I which is why I inquired what's actually available at the rate quoted.

It depends upon the age of the youngest spouse, but Kaiser in NorCal offers a pretty good family plan starting below $500 a month. For instance, subscriber, spouse, and one or more children, 35-39 costs $414/mo for a $1500 deductible plan.

What's the deal after the 1,500.00 deductible is met? Preventive care fully covered? Pre-existing conditions? Coverage max?

I hope I am not violating TOS, but here is the link, and check out for yourself: http://www.kp.org

There is a medical questionaire.

No need to post links and fear violation of TOS. That bolded part answers my question on pre-existing conditions.

My wife had a preexisting condition, but it wasn't covered by the questionaire, and she qualified. I was overweight and an ex smoker, and I qualified. There are certain conditions they are prohibited by law from asking you about prior to being accepted by the plan. I only met one person that didn't qualify, and they were on COBRA, and being treated for a serious condition. Even they were able to negociate coverage finally with Kaiser.

If you go through an employer, or group plan, then no medical questionaire is required.

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I am sure all the money that has been flowing into the Socialist coffers the last and then the next election cycles from the Health insurance industry has had nothing to do with this.

Can you form a sentence without the word 'socialist'?