Public option is dead. It's official.

[natty bumppo 297]

Ok - whatever you want to call it. Like AJ said, if you want to go with that definition, then a whole lot of people yelling at town hall meetings ought to be turning down their Medicare when they turn 65 just out of general principle.

IMO, there is no way to control health care costs unless you do away with the fee-for-service model. And you can't do away with that model as long as you have so many different providers. Nations with 'nationalized' (as you care to call it) systems can control costs because they treat the patients entire condition, and not each step of it.

why? didn't the people (who legally worked) pay into it? why should they turn down something for which they paid?

Because it's the same thing they say they don't want?

so the people now paying twice for medical coverage ... one coverage for today ... the coverage for the future ... don't want medical coverage in the future?

[rebeccajo 14]

Ok - whatever you want to call it. Like AJ said, if you want to go with that definition, then a whole lot of people yelling at town hall meetings ought to be turning down their Medicare when they turn 65 just out of general principle.

IMO, there is no way to control health care costs unless you do away with the fee-for-service model. And you can't do away with that model as long as you have so many different providers. Nations with 'nationalized' (as you care to call it) systems can control costs because they treat the patients entire condition, and not each step of it.

why? didn't the people (who legally worked) pay into it? why should they turn down something for which they paid?

Because it's the same thing they say they don't want?

so the people now paying twice for medical coverage ... one coverage for today ... the coverage for the future ... don't want medical coverage in the future?

Go outside and think outside the box...........

[natty bumppo 297]

Ok - whatever you want to call it. Like AJ said, if you want to go with that definition, then a whole lot of people yelling at town hall meetings ought to be turning down their Medicare when they turn 65 just out of general principle.

IMO, there is no way to control health care costs unless you do away with the fee-for-service model. And you can't do away with that model as long as you have so many different providers. Nations with 'nationalized' (as you care to call it) systems can control costs because they treat the patients entire condition, and not each step of it.

why? didn't the people (who legally worked) pay into it? why should they turn down something for which they paid?

Because it's the same thing they say they don't want?

so the people now paying twice for medical coverage ... one coverage for today ... the coverage for the future ... don't want medical coverage in the future?

Go outside and think outside the box...........

what is that box doing in the gutter?