Wife got citizenship, announced she wanted divorce the next day?

[Ban Hammer 14,455]

akdiver is still fooling people.

[baron555 934]

Why bother with the Passport if you hate your country so much?

[eekee 182]

Why bother with the Passport if you hate your country so much?

So they can go other places.

Edited August 18, 2009 by eekee

[Jamaican JNR 2]

Has this ever happened to anyone? Just curious.

Hasn't happened to me. She did get citizenship recently, and we sent off for her U.S. passport, but we're still happily married. Coming up on our fourth wedding anniversary (less than a month). My, does time fly!

Cheers!

AKD

I have heard of situations like what you ask over this medium (VJ). Happy anniversary when it comes.

[baron555 934]

Why bother with the Passport if you hate your country so much?

So they can go other places.

But you don't need a passport to leave.

[slim 1,533]

I'm firmly in the camp of RUB forum having ZERO mods. This should be a mod-free zone. We don't need 'em!

Akdiver, welcome back and when I read the topic and saw it was you, of course, it was read cum grano salis. I would like to see more of your posts though. The bank robbery story still takes the cake and is securely holding onto the "best VJ hoax ever." That was a nice relief from the monotony of waiting on a K-1 so keep that kind of stuff going.

And also, stop by here more often. It's been kind of boring around here. We're doing our best but guns and pie only gets us so far. Congrats on getting over the final hurdle and have fun diving on the mrs.

[baron555 934]

Mox, I hope you know that I do not advocate the toe the line, love it or leave it attitude.

I too do not like everything that goes on in my country and I will use my amendment rights to the fullest extent.

I did not know AK was well known here or I wouldn't have commented thusly.

[visaveteran 0]

Why bother with the Passport if you hate your country so much?

I can't speak for AK, but I don't think it's hate. I too have gotten sick and tired of all the patriotic and misty-eyed bullshit that masks as patriotism. Take for example those clowns disrupting town hall meetings, ranting and raving, and then "spontaneously" breaking into the pledge of allegiance. How shameful, and how exactly opposite from patriotism. I'm not a religious person, but I prefer to practice my patriotism like I'd prefer people to practice their religion...on the inside. I don't have a problem with the pledge as long as it's voluntary, and not sure why AK does (I don't see it as professing "slavery") but I understand the sentiment. Patriotism has been hijacked in this country by extremists, to the point where almost any formalized display leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

The "love it or leave it" argument being hinted at by baron555 is, by the way, a fallacy. I could easily turn that argument back on anyone who criticizes the country or government. Don't like health care reform? Get the hell out then. Don't like the PATRIOT act? Move to Switzerland you commie #######. What's this, criticizing the government because they're taking their sweet time in processing your K1? I guess you don't want America to be protected from foreign enemies, you should just buy a one-way ticket to Moscow. "Love it or leave it" is a lazy argument, sorry.

(I'm really trying to liven things up for you Slim. I'm really trying!)

I'm firmly in the camp of RUB forum having ZERO mods. This should be a mod-free zone. We don't need 'em!

I don't mind someone calling in a mod for trollish or stalkish behavior, that's what the report button is for. I'm sure the mod in question was called in using the report button, but I also don't think it would have taken long to figure out the OP was having a laugh. I'm told the original subject line was the clencher and was changed by the mod (anyone know what the original subject was?), but I guess it just seemed pretty damn obvious to me that there was no ill intent. If the mods don't have time to read, then they need more mods. Kinda pisses me off though that it's likely chased AK away again.

Mox wrote: "I'm not a religious person, but I prefer to practice my patriotism like I'd prefer people to practice their religion...on the inside."

Good thought...perhaps you could extend it to also cover your one-dimensional pontificating and stale left-wing talking points speeches.

Maybe I'm not as hip and cool as the California folks but I still salute the flag, get goose bumps listening to a good rendition of The Star Spangled Banner, and refuse to curse my own country.

The left-wing town meeting crashers of the past turned me off too, but I won't label them idiots or shameful or devalue them as Americans. Cherry picking criticism of only certain groups while blessing other groups for the same behavior is the worst kind of hypocrisy, as well demonstrated by Madam Speaker Pelosi.

[Otto 83]

[akdiver 3]

Why bother with the Passport if you hate your country so much?

Not sure where I said anything about hating any country - but the reason for getting the passport is to make international travel easier, in comparison to traveling on a Russian Federation passport.

Cheers!

AKD

[akdiver 3]

I'm firmly in the camp of RUB forum having ZERO mods. This should be a mod-free zone. We don't need 'em!

Akdiver, welcome back and when I read the topic and saw it was you, of course, it was read cum grano salis. I would like to see more of your posts though. The bank robbery story still takes the cake and is securely holding onto the "best VJ hoax ever." That was a nice relief from the monotony of waiting on a K-1 so keep that kind of stuff going.

And also, stop by here more often. It's been kind of boring around here. We're doing our best but guns and pie only gets us so far. Congrats on getting over the final hurdle and have fun diving on the mrs.

Ah, thanks slim (:

I was hoping things were still going well for you. I take it from your continued presence here, they are? Have you whipped her into shape yet, in terms of realistic economic theory? (:

Cheers!

AKD

[BluesTraveler 0]

Akdiver, ... The bank robbery story still takes the cake and is securely holding onto the "best VJ hoax ever."

do you have a link?

[akdiver 3]

I can't speak for AK, but I don't think it's hate. I too have gotten sick and tired of all the patriotic and misty-eyed bullshit that masks as patriotism.

That's just it. Today, "patriotism" amounts to proclaiming America to be this great and wonderful place, above all other great and wonderful places, without having even the slightest clue about the principles the country was founded upon, the importance of those principles and how they helped make the country "great" at one time, just how far we have strayed from those principles, and the reality of the current state of the union. God forbid these flag wavers actually know the Constitution, let alone understand it. At this point, it's a lost cause.

I don't have a problem with the pledge as long as it's voluntary, and not sure why AK does (I don't see it as professing "slavery") but I understand the sentiment.

You're confusing two issues. I said I can't in good conscience participate in any pledge of allegiance, and ALSO commented about the citizenship oath, which, essentially, requires you to become a slave to the government if it desires it necessary for you to do so:

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

If the government wanted to pay reasonable and market rate, it would have all the volunteers it needed for its "work of national importance". Coercing people into performing labour at reduced rates is slavery as far as I am concerned. But then again, so is forcing me to pay taxes to support all the worthless bums in society and those who cannot or will not make their own way.

The "love it or leave it" argument being hinted at by baron555 is, by the way, a fallacy. I could easily turn that argument back on anyone who criticizes the country or government. Don't like health care reform? Get the hell out then. Don't like the PATRIOT act? Move to Switzerland you commie #######. What's this, criticizing the government because they're taking their sweet time in processing your K1? I guess you don't want America to be protected from foreign enemies, you should just buy a one-way ticket to Moscow. "Love it or leave it" is a lazy argument, sorry.

Yeah, those are the worst. There tends to be a lot of overlap between this crowd and the "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" crowd (vis-à-vis warrantless searches, wiretapping, and other assorted things).

I'm firmly in the camp of RUB forum having ZERO mods. This should be a mod-free zone. We don't need 'em!

Amen.

I'm told the original subject line was the clencher and was changed by the mod (anyone know what the original subject was?)

The (now censored) subject line was "Wife got citizenship, announced she wanted divorce the next day? Ouch!"

If the mods don't have time to read, then they need more mods.

Less is more - with respect to forum mods and more formal governmental structures.

Cheers!

AKD

[akdiver 3]

Er...are you telling me that the "Ouch" part was the only part that was removed? That was...um...helpful?

That's all that was removed - but the whole "hasn't happened to me" part was ADDED by the mod.....for the benefit of those who can't be bothered to actually read a post before allowing it to get them all in a tizzy - I guess.

I guess I'm coming at it from more of a long-waits-at-the-DMV perspective. It just seems like what moderation *is* done, is often done in a haphazard manner. Really I think the solution, at least for this forum, is to appoint somebody (Slim's name has been dropped multiple times) the RU forum mod and be done with it.

Yeah, I nominated him for that a loooooooooooong time ago. I think he is sucker enough to do it too (: Edited August 19, 2009 by akdiver

[Captain Oates 911]

Has this ever happened to anyone? Just curious.

Hasn't happened to me. She did get citizenship recently, and we sent off for her U.S. passport, but we're still happily married. Coming up on our fourth wedding anniversary (less than a month). My, does time fly!

Cheers!

AKD

I have a good friend whose wife just got her U.S. citizenship; and, sadly, I expect to hear about her divorcing him (just any day now).

You didn't ask, but she is Ukrainian. And it seems of all the Russian couples I personally know (30 to 40 couples), the Ukrainian spouses are the most difficult - come to the U.S.; get married; get SSN and driver's license; maybe get some additional college paid for; acquire U.S. citizenship; and then go and file for divorce, claiming their American husbands don't treat them well. - This is only a few, but it sickens me when I see it happen.

I have been to Odessa (THE Odessa), and if I were a resident there I would be prepared to marry Elton to get out. Don't know why they don't ditch the spouse after the green card and do naturalization on their own after 5 years. I am sure there are genuine Ukrainian brides but boy they have an incentive

By the way, Do any non - Asian American ladies import Thai men ? My daughter was asking and I said it doesn't work like that....

I am sure there will be AN exception somewhere