Filipina filed for divorce

[Pinay Wife 47]

NutMagnet, that provision applies only if the marriage occurred in the Philippines. The thing is, nydvo's marriage was solemnized in the US, under US laws. Their marriage certificate was issued by US authorities. Can you tell us how in the world can they file for annulment in the Philippines for a marriage that occurred in the US. What would be the basis, a US marriage contract? No Philippine court has jurisdiction over a marriage that occured in the US. No Philippine court can order that a US marriage be declared null and void.

If you can show us the law that specifically says that marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreign national that was celebrated abroad can be subject to annulment in the Philippines, that would be good.

Ray and nydvo, three lawyers already gave you advice, you're in good hands.

Edited August 18, 2009 by Pinay Wife

[NutMagnet 2]

Mr. NutMagnet,

I am not sounding like an angry man who swallowed a bitter pill. I would love to reply to your points one by one again, but it is tiring. I would like you to answer this for me... How can a marriage be annuled if it never existed? Now before you copy and paste again all the Philippine laws and codes again, this is the very question that a lawyer in the Philippines asked my fiance when she went just this morning again to inquire about this issue. Again, a lawyer in the US and a lawyer again in the Philippines explained all this to her and I but you seem to be annoyed or mad by this. It is not required to report a marriage taking place in the US to the Philippines. There is no legal requirement to do so. It is recognized only if the marriage is reported. Read the Philippine laws again. I think I remember that it needs to be reported within a certain amount of time. So again, keep refering to "Mr. Spiteful" and what he should or shouldn't have done. The fact again is, and this was confirmed by 3 lawyers, the marriage wasn't reported and there is no marriage to annul. She has a CENOMAR stating she is single and that there is no marriages on record. She just recently received another one stating this. There is just more point I want to bring up to you....We also contacted an official in the LCR, Local Civil Registry, office and asked about this situation. Her response was the same. If we hire a lawyer to do this "annulment" as you and a few others seem so sure we have to do....it cannot be done because there is no record of a marriage to annul. There has to be a record of marriage in order for an annulment to happen.

Now, if 3 lawyers confirm this and the registry office themselves confirm this, I would think we are ok, and you should be too, NutMagnet.

Mr Ray,

There are things that only experience and hard knocks can teach. Its not my job to school you, or anyone on this board or elsewhere. But I will share with you some thoughts and you may have your pleasure in rationalizing their applicability.

My friend, you are in pursuit of a life changing experience, a marriage, and also to a foreign woman who's people and culture are vastly different than is known here in the USA. A challenging, long distance relationship replete with enough emotions to fill a truck. Many things you are hearing from abroad are not making sense as you relate them to your own personal experiences, but you have the faith, trust, and determination to accomplish your goals; a very noble stance.

I'll keep the chop & paste to a minimum and address your questions and throw in a little commentary to boot.

Q: "How can a marriage be annulled if it never existed?"

A: Apparently because those responsible failed to report it in the Philippines. You stated that you paid for her divorce in the USA, if it never existed, what was the point? As previously quoted, "Also the mere fact that no record of marriage can be found, does not invalidate the marriage provided all the requisites for its validity are present." And that would be the existence of the Pinay's USA marriage and divorce document. The USCIS will get a local copy if necessary.

"It is not required to report a marriage taking place in the US to the Philippines. There is no legal requirement to do so. It is recognized only if the marriage is reported. Read the Philippine laws again. I think I remember that it needs to be reported within a certain amount of time."

Not by US law, but by Philippine Law. The Pinay Citizen (in this case) is the one responsible for following the laws of her own country even when abroad, same as you are bound to USA laws when out of the USA. Having reviewed the "Family Code of the Philippines" "The Handbook of the Family Code of the Philippines" and "Primer of Civil Registration" registration of marriage is to be accomplished with the LCR within 15 days. Foreign reports of marriage within one year. There are form filled affidavits available and accepted for all late civil registrations.

My friend, you are getting misinformation from Filipino attorneys and government office clerks. Its Filipino way to tell you what you want to hear to avoid a confrontation or out of embarrassment of their own ignorance. Try calling the Philippine Consulates and Embassies here in the USA for a better chance of the truth, and if in doubt, read their websites they explain all.

You situation is unique as the majority of Filipinos lack the financial capacity to legally initiate and petition for divorce and apart from that they are unable to do so by Philippine law. How most accomplish it is by acquiring citizenship in another country and renouncing their Philippine citizenship by never renewing their passports. Later they can file a 13A and regain their Philippine citizenship, however the statutes are not clear whether a divorce occurring during that time would be recognized under Philippine law.

For your reading: http://jlp-law.com/blog/divorce-annulment-philippines/ and http://jlp-law.com/blog/judicial-recogniti...divorce-decree/

The laws on foreign divorce are very clear, in time you will learn to accept the way that they are.

Good night,

NM

[marklovetina 52]

NutMagnet, that provision applies only if the marriage occurred in the Philippines. The thing is, nydvo's marriage was solemnized in the US, under US laws. Their marriage certificate was issued by US authorities. Can you tell us how in the world can they file for annulment in the Philippines for a marriage that occurred in the US. What would be the basis, a US marriage contract? No Philippine court has jurisdiction over a marriage that occured in the US. No Philippine court can order that a US marriage be declared null and void.

If you can show us the law that specifically says that marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreign national that was celebrated abroad can be subject to annulment in the Philippines, that would be good.

Ray and nydvo, three lawyers already gave you advice, you're in good hands.

HOW ABOUT A PERSON WHOS IS MARRIED HERE INT HE PHIL. WENT TO THE U.S DIDNT FILE A DIVORCE DECREE TO A FIL. SPOUSE HERE IN THE PHIL BUT STILL MARRIED A USC...? WHAT ABOUT THAT CASE...? ...

[nydvo 0]

My friend, you are getting misinformation from Filipino attorneys and government office clerks. Its Filipino way to tell you what you want to hear to avoid a confrontation or out of embarrassment of their own ignorance. Try calling the Philippine Consulates and Embassies here in the USA for a better chance of the truth, and if in doubt, read their websites they explain all.

I really hope that Mr. Ray Bacon, an american immigration lawyer, wasnt giving us wrong informations. He helped alot of Filipino- American couples going thru the immigration process..

[NutMagnet 2]

NutMagnet, that provision applies only if the marriage occurred in the Philippines. The thing is, nydvo's marriage was solemnized in the US, under US laws. Their marriage certificate was issued by US authorities. Can you tell us how in the world can they file for annulment in the Philippines for a marriage that occurred in the US. What would be the basis, a US marriage contract? No Philippine court has jurisdiction over a marriage that occured in the US. No Philippine court can order that a US marriage be declared null and void.

If you can show us the law that specifically says that marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreign national that was celebrated abroad can be subject to annulment in the Philippines, that would be good.

Ray and nydvo, three lawyers already gave you advice, you're in good hands.

NutMagnet, that provision applies only if the marriage occurred in the Philippines. The thing is, nydvo's marriage was solemnized in the US, under US laws. Their marriage certificate was issued by US authorities. Can you tell us how in the world can they file for annulment in the Philippines for a marriage that occurred in the US. What would be the basis, a US marriage contract? No Philippine court has jurisdiction over a marriage that occured in the US. No Philippine court can order that a US marriage be declared null and void.

If you can show us the law that specifically says that marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreign national that was celebrated abroad can be subject to annulment in the Philippines, that would be good.

Ray and nydvo, three lawyers already gave you advice, you're in good hands.

I believe that you are Filipino and through no fault of your own have a difficult time understanding all about divorce, the same as us Yanks not understanding why not in the Philippines? Its a cultural difference and takes time to understand. I hope I can help sort it out for you.

Q:Can you tell us how in the world can they file for annulment in the Philippines for a marriage that occurred in the US. What would be the basis, a US marriage contract? No Philippine court has jurisdiction over a marriage that occured in the US. No Philippine court can order that a US marriage be declared null and void.

It would not be subject to annulment, it would simply be dissolved if initiated by the foreigner spouse overseas. No need for further annulment. But to make it legal after that, a summary process recognizing the foreign divorce needs to be filed in Philippine court to amend the Filipino's marriage documents and cenomar, this can also be done through foreign embassies.

If you are referring to the situation with Nydvo is it simple but the process is long and complicated. First off, you would think, How could anybody know in the Philippines that she was married and divorced in the USA, she says there is no NSO marriage index on her? The files, documents, fingerprints, audio/video of her previous interview on her ex-husband's petition will be waiting for her at the US Embassy.

Just because the mariage is not registered with the NSO, does not mean that a marriage does not exist. In her situation, a foreign report of marriage was never filed in the Philippines and she has a clear cenomar. Here is a quote for you on this:

http://attyatwork.com/annulment-divorce-le...stions-answers/

What if no marriage certificate could be found?

Justice Sempio-Dy, in the “Handbook of on the Family Code of the Philippines” (p. 26, 1997 reprint), says: “The marriage certificate is not an essential or formal requisite of marriage without which the marriage will be void. An oral marriage is, therefore, valid, and failure of a party to sign the marriage certificate or the omission of the solemnizing officer to send a copy of the marriage certificate to the proper local civil registrar, does not invalidate the marriage. Also the mere fact that no record of marriage can be found, does not invalidate the marriage provided all the requisites for its validity are present."

THE BASIS: In Nydvo's short marriage, they did apply for Adjustment of Status after they were married, and so they sent in their marriage certificate, and both birth certificates to the US Immigration for processing. The Immigration processed those papers and issued her an A# similar to an SSS number. This is the nukber she will use on her upcoming petition as well.

NYdvo left the country before the AOS process was complete, still legally married to Mr. Spiteful.

If the foreign divorce was initiated, filed, or petitioned by the foreigner spouse, then it will be recognized in the Philippines, no further annulment necessary, but you would need to file for a recognition of a foreign divorce with the Philippines court.

NYDVO's problem is that her new boyfriend gave her the money to initiate, file, or petition for her divorce. That doesn't work because it has to be the FOREIGNER spouse to initiate, file, or petition for divorce in order for it to be recognized in the Philippines. All it does is able the foreign spouse to re-marry while the Filipino spouse is still married under RP law. So make sure your foreign husband files the papers...not you, diba?

And that goes back to the theory that Filipino citizens abroad are bound by the laws of their home country when abroad. The Family Code of the RP was amended for consideration of those Filipinos who's' spouses divorced them.

(No Philippine court has jurisdiction over a marriage that occured in the US.

How about 'recognized' instead of 'jurisdiction'? There is not much in the way or reciprocacy between the USA and the RP, many laws still in place from the military base days.

The late Cory Aquino on

17 July 1987: Executive Order No. 227 was signed into law, amending Article 36 of the Family Code, among others. Article 26 now reads:

ART. 26. All marriages solemnized outside the Philippines in accordance with the laws in force in the country where they were solemnized, and valid there as such, shall also be valid in this country, except those prohibited under Articles 35(1), (4), (5) and (6), 36, 37 and 38.

Where a marriage between a Filipino citizen and a foreigner is validly celebrated and a divorce is thereafter validly obtained abroad by the alien spouse capacitating him or her to remarry, the Filipino spouse shall have capacity to remarry under Philippine law.

and here: http://jlp-law.com/blog/judicial-recogniti...divorce-decree/

No Philippine court can order that a US marriage be declared null and void. )

No court ordering necessary when the foreigner divorces the Filipino outside the Philippines. If the Filipino divorces the foreigner, there is no recognition of dissolution in the Philippines, ever, only via annulment.

At times, lawyers are a necessary evil, finding one who really knows his field of practice is like a haystack needle. As busuinessmen, they are out to make money on their client's misfortunes. Leeches!

Tale of Immigration Lawyers

Immigration Lawyers do it with taste.

Immigration Lawyers do it with high self-esteem.

Immigration Lawyers do it to get to the trial.

Immigration Lawyers do it for justice's sake.

Immigration Lawyers do it for however long there is money behind the deal.

Immigration Lawyers do it for as long as it's legal.

Immigration Lawyers' Club

A group of crooks decided to break in to a lawyers' club. The old Immigration Lawyers fought for their life and their money. The crooks were happy to leave the place intact and escape the fight.

"We're not that bad off," one of the thieves commented. "We have $35 between the lot of us."

The eldest thief screamed in desperation, "We had $1,000 when we went in the club!"

[NutMagnet 2]

HOW ABOUT A PERSON WHOS IS MARRIED HERE INT HE PHIL. WENT TO THE U.S DIDNT FILE A DIVORCE DECREE TO A FIL. SPOUSE HERE IN THE PHIL BUT STILL MARRIED A USC...? WHAT ABOUT THAT CASE...? ...

So a married Filipino goes to the USA and gets married again to a USA citizen? And is still married in the RP? Both of them?

That's called bigamy. 6-12 years in the RP monkey house and also a felony in most parts of the USA.

Edited August 18, 2009 by NutMagnet

[marklovetina 52]

HOW ABOUT A PERSON WHOS IS MARRIED HERE INT HE PHIL. WENT TO THE U.S DIDNT FILE A DIVORCE DECREE TO A FIL. SPOUSE HERE IN THE PHIL BUT STILL MARRIED A USC...? WHAT ABOUT THAT CASE...? ...

So a married Filipino goes to the USA and gets married again to a USA citizen? And is still married in the RP? Both of them?

That's called bigamy. 6-12 years in the RP monkey house and also a felony in most parts of the USA.

yes that the situation... married here went to us and married a usc there hehehehehehe... but i thought bigamy is teritorrial....? can someone give me learning about this matter here....

HOW ABOUT A PERSON WHOS IS MARRIED HERE INT HE PHIL. WENT TO THE U.S DIDNT FILE A DIVORCE DECREE TO A FIL. SPOUSE HERE IN THE PHIL BUT STILL MARRIED A USC...? WHAT ABOUT THAT CASE...? ...

So a married Filipino goes to the USA and gets married again to a USA citizen? And is still married in the RP? Both of them?

That's called bigamy. 6-12 years in the RP monkey house and also a felony in most parts of the USA.

yes that the situation... married here went to us and married a usc there hehehehehehe... but i thought bigamy is teritorrial....? can someone give me learning about this matter here....

[tnguy21809 0]

NYDVO, I would take NUTMAGNET's advice if I were you. It is the sanest and most lawful advice you will ever get.

As for the three lawyers, they are giving you really bad advices. I wouldn't trust them with my future, I studied family code in school and no where did it state that recording of marriage done outside the Philippines needs recording in NSO for it to be valid in the Philippines.

If you need better lawyers, send me a PM, I can refer you to one of my former professors or their law firm. There are so many fly by night lawyers in the Philippines, if you want somebody reputable.. you can also go to Integrated Bar of the Philippines for a referal for Family Law pratitioners. You have to get somebody who is practicing Family Law, lawyers have different specialties. Most lawyers you see here in the Philippines practice Business law, that's where the money is.

You are in deep sh*t, sad to say, but you will find a light at the end of the tunnel. Just don't rush things and hope to get a crafty work around the Philippine laws. Trust me, the marriage is recorded in the USCIS and US Embassy, and the COs at the US Embassy Manila studied the Philippine laws and they will apply it without discrimination.

Good luck to both of you.

-TNGIRL

Edited August 18, 2009 by tnguy21809

[nydvo 0]

Thanks TNGIRL for the reply and the concern.

1 of the lawyer that we talked to is an american immigration lawyer that Helped alot of filipino-american couples going thru immigration process. Hes popular in one of the fil-am forum like visajourney.. Infact, we're gonna hire him to do the k1.

I appreciate all the answers and inputs to my queries here. And thank you so much!

I might think that im so unlucky becoz i got an exhusband who NEVER plan to file the divorce. and i am from a country that is not that fair when it comes to this marriage thingy.. but i know that I didnt do anything wrong. no fraud. no overstaying. it just happened that my marriage didnt work out and im a filipino..but still I deserve every chance in the world to start again.

The k1 will go on. and at the time of the interview,. i will have my divorce decree and my CENOmar. and the rest of the documents. I will be ready.honest with everything.. and alot of prayers.

If theres delays, RFE, AR.Denial,whatsoever, then we'll handle it when it happens..

I hope you all can pray for me. I will be posting my timeline as soon as we will get our NOA1.

I do believe in "Do your best, and God will do the rest"...

Thank you ALL again....

[jom 4]

Thanks TNGIRL for the reply and the concern.

1 of the lawyer that we talked to is an american immigration lawyer that Helped alot of filipino-american couples going thru immigration process. Hes popular in one of the fil-am forum like visajourney.. Infact, we're gonna hire him to do the k1.

I appreciate all the answers and inputs to my queries here. And thank you so much!

I might think that im so unlucky becoz i got an exhusband who NEVER plan to file the divorce. and i am from a country that is not that fair when it comes to this marriage thingy.. but i know that I didnt do anything wrong. no fraud. no overstaying. it just happened that my marriage didnt work out and im a filipino..but still I deserve every chance in the world to start again.

The k1 will go on. and at the time of the interview,. i will have my divorce decree and my CENOmar. and the rest of the documents. I will be ready.honest with everything.. and alot of prayers.

If theres delays, RFE, AR.Denial,whatsoever, then we'll handle it when it happens..

I hope you all can pray for me. I will be posting my timeline as soon as we will get our NOA1.

I do believe in "Do your best, and God will do the rest"...

Thank you ALL again....

Go NYDVO and hopefully you will be back again in the US, and this time I am sure you will have a better married life.

Just remember, It is the US government that will decide your approval not the Philippine government and its laws. If the US Embassy in Manila will honor the divorce decree you obtained from their own courts you are good to go and the Philippine govt cant do much about it. As long as you comply with the CFO requirements, you will be just fine.

Godbless you and your journey.

Myla

[nydvo 0]

There seems to be alot of fly by night lawyers here in these posts who think they know more then the next person, Tnguy. You and NutMagnet seem bothered by our situation the most. NutMagnet, what do you do for a living? It seems you want to be an immigration lawyer maybe because you are real good at quoting Article 26. You definitely are a conspiracy theorist. It seems no matter what we have written here, you go off and find some sort of link or article to justify your point. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but getting 3 lawyers opinion on our situation, (3 immigration and familly law lawyers), not local business lawyers mind you, seems ok with me.

Tnguy, go back and read all the posts again. No one, not even, the lawyer to be NutMagnet, is talking about the US marriage. The US marriage is valid. This whole discussion has been weather or not the US marriage is valid in the Philippines. Yes, NutMagnet, we are all very aware of your Article 26 so no need to always copy and paste it. We are also very aware that the poor, abused Mr Spiteful should have filed the divorce for it to be recognized.

I am sorry if we are going to take the word and opinion of 3 Immigration and Family Law lawyers over yours NutMagnet. I find it hard to believe that 3 of them are all involved in a conspiracy to make our K-1 visa fail or delayed, and when someone even from the local registry office which would handle any annulment tells us also that there is no record of marriage on file, then or now, and then an annulment cant be filed because there is nothing to reference TO DO AN ANNULMENT, what am I or my fiance to do? Yes, any government agency in the US would be aware of her first marriage. Yes, they had US marriage license which was used for their AOS. You dont need to state the obvious, but what you must also know NutMagnet and Tnguy is that it is not the Philippine government who decides if a visa is granted. It is the US government. Also, there is no legal requirement for a US marriage to be filed in the Philippines. Again, if it is recognized by the Philippines, great, but without a recorded marriage licence in the Philippines, which anyone would have to apply for and receive, how can anyone apply for an annulment of a marriage if there is no record of it? The US marriage license or certificate proves a marriage happened in the US, not in the Philippines. Also, a US marriage certificate or license cannot be use to file an annulment in the Philippines. Proof of a Philippine marriage is required. All you say and repeat over and over is that we have to have the marriage annuled, BUT HOW? You are not giving any answer to that question. You just repeat Articles and opinion.

Yes I paid for their divorce other wise, Mr Spiteful would still be hanging around making his own troubles. He was never going to file the divorce on his own. He said this to me directly. So I handled it and I really dont care what your opinion is on that matter. According to US law, my fiance and I are free and able to marry in the US....and it is US law that applies here. There is nothing the Philippine government can do about it because THERE IS NOTHING TO DO ABOUT IT. All our paperwork in in order and we have all the required documents. So again NutMagnet, thank you for all your "help"??? but I have talked to enough experienced people on situations like this, in both countries, and I am satisfied with what they tell me. There is no conspiracy happening here by me, my fiance or lawyers in either country which is what it seems you think is going on.

Good day to you sir...

[Pinay Wife 47]

Trust me, the marriage is recorded in the USCIS and US Embassy, and the COs at the US Embassy Manila studied the Philippine laws and they will apply it without discrimination.

And the same US marriage has been dissolved by the same US government that the USCIS and the US Embassy belong to.

I believe that you are Filipino and through no fault of your own have a difficult time understanding all about divorce, the same as us Yanks not understanding why not in the Philippines? Its a cultural difference and takes time to understand. I hope I can help sort it out for you

I don't pretend to know everything about the law. Even lawyers and judges have a difficult time understanding the law that's why we have a Court of Appeals and a Supreme Court who has the final say on how to interpret the law. Even among the Supreme Court justices, there are dissenters.

How about 'recognized' instead of 'jurisdiction'? There is not much in the way or reciprocacy between the USA and the RP, many laws still in place from the military base days.

A court has to decide first if it has jurisdiction before it can hear a case. If you acknowledge that Philippine courts have no jurisdiction, how can the petition for recognition proceed? If a court has no jurisdiction, how can it hear a petition? Therefore no jurisdiction, no court case; no court case, no recognition.

How could anybody know in the Philippines that she was married and divorced in the USA, she says there is no NSO marriage index on her? The files, documents, fingerprints, audio/video of her previous interview on her ex-husband's petition will be waiting for her at the US Embassy.

Nydvo is not denying the fact that she was previously married. As a matter of fact, she will declare her previous marriage and divorce in the new petition. It is not a crime if a Filipino citizen does not report her US marriage. As far the US Embassy is concerned, she is free to marry regardless of her previous marriage and K1 petition. She married within 90 days, filed AOS (which is now considered abandoned), and left the US in a timely manner. No crime there. As far as the Philippines is concerned, nydvo does not have a Philippine marriage contract that would invalidate the US divorce decree that she obtained. What she has is a US marriage contract, subject to US marriage and divorce laws that the US Embassy recognizes, of course.

Just because the mariage is not registered with the NSO, does not mean that a marriage does not exist. In her situation, a foreign report of marriage was never filed in the Philippines and she has a clear cenomar.

I never said that a marriage does not exist if it was not registered with the NSO or the Phil. Embassy. Nydvo's US marriage is recognized here, definitely. The Philippines, however, cannot do anything about her divorce because she married in the US, under US laws. If she married in the Philippines, then yes, the divorce she initiated is not valid because she married under Philippine laws.

If the foreign divorce was initiated, filed, or petitioned by the foreigner spouse, then it will be recognized in the Philippines, no further annulment necessary, but you would need to file for a recognition of a foreign divorce with the Philippines court.

Again, nydvo was not married in the Philippines. She married in the US, subject to US laws.

Okay, if she filed a Petition to Recognize a Divorce Decree and there was one Philippine court that was ignorant enough to accept jurisdiction (which I doubt), can you tell us which Local Civil Registry can amend a marriage contract that is non-existent anywhere in the Philippines? Anong papeles ang ia-amend nila? Saan nila hahanapin ang marriage certificate? Wala, di ba? Nasaan ang papeles na dapat ay i-amend, nasa America, di ba? And do you think they can touch it? Of course not because those are US documents, hindi saklaw ng Philippines. Kaya nga, walang jurisdiction.

Again, the marriage occurred in the US, therefore US laws apply and the Philippines has no say on nydvo's divorce even if she is a Filipino citizen. The marriage occurred in the US. If the marriage occurred in the Philippines, then yes, the divorce obtained by nydvo in the US will not be recognized.

Since we are always quoting "ART. 26. All marriages solemnized outside the Philippines in accordance with the laws in force in the country where they were solemnized, and valid there as such, shall also be valid in this country, except those prohibited under Articles 35(1), (4), (5) and (6), 36, 37 and 38."

It says, "in accordance with the laws in force in the country where they were solemnized", which also means that if she married in the US, it is in accordance with US laws. US laws allow divorce, therefore the divorce obtained by nydvo in the US is valid. Although the Philippines disapproves of divorce, there is nothing it can do about the divorce that nydvo obtained. US law will prevail since the marriage occurred in the US in accordance with the laws in force in the country where they were solemnized.

NYDVO's problem is that her new boyfriend gave her the money to initiate, file, or petition for her divorce.

Why should that be a problem? It really doesn't matter who paid for divorce. That is none of our business. We should not poke our noses in other people's personal affairs and assuming the worst in them because we don't know anything about them.

And that goes back to the theory that Filipino citizens abroad are bound by the laws of their home country when abroad.

And in like manner, Filipinos must abide by the laws of their host country.

[Pinay Wife 47]

Go NYDVO and hopefully you will be back again in the US, and this time I am sure you will have a better married life.

Just remember, It is the US government that will decide your approval not the Philippine government and its laws. If the US Embassy in Manila will honor the divorce decree you obtained from their own courts you are good to go and the Philippine govt cant do much about it. As long as you comply with the CFO requirements, you will be just fine.

Godbless you and your journey.

Myla

[bulaklak 0]

There seems to be alot of fly by night lawyers here in these posts who think they know more then the next person.

I noticed that too.

[Robert E Lee 0]

There seems to be alot of fly by night lawyers here in these posts who think they know more then the next person.

I noticed that too.

Ain't you both correct? These people are de facto lawyers in their own minds!