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[ready4ONE 5,400]

Citizens 18 and over, not otherwise barred, are eligible to vote. At some points in history, some voting blocs are more motivated than others. The Black vote put Obama over the top. So, we should blame them when he fails and we're seeking further recovery.

Too bad the economy seems to be recovering already, although there is likely a long hard road to total recovery. Also too bad that Obama seems pretty adept at getting his legislative agenda enacted.

One more time VW, next time don't run a loser? Ok? This is a democracy, and last November, you lost.

I didn't lose a thing. I just voted. The whole country lost and they can't blame me. However, I'm quite sure than not voting for a candidate doesn't preclude anyone from voicing an opinion and attempting to block their policies. Obama hasn't done all that much, so we disagree with his adeptness at getting his agenda enacted. Nearly 10% unemployment - and that's not counting the unemployed who've dropped off the radar - and triple the debt are things only a kool-aid guzzler can celebrate and call an economic recovery.

Barry can't even keep his promises not to raise taxes, be transparent, post bills before votes, not hire lobbyists, and adopt a kennel dog. He's just getting started being a big disappointment. I have the luxury of knowing he's not my fault. That's my victory.

So sorry, we went over this yesterday, the bill is online for all to see, shut off Fox and go read it.

Also, so sorry, but the size of the mess, and indications things are improving via the path baby stepped at the end by Bush to help fix his own mess, and which Obama added to in spades was a huge accomplishment.

Obama is making good time on any number of his agenda items he indicated were priorities while running.

By your reasoning, Bush wasn't my fault, but I lived with him. Now on to bigger and better things, that is my victory.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Citizens 18 and over, not otherwise barred, are eligible to vote. At some points in history, some voting blocs are more motivated than others. The Black vote put Obama over the top. So, we should blame them when he fails and we're seeking further recovery.

Too bad the economy seems to be recovering already, although there is likely a long hard road to total recovery. Also too bad that Obama seems pretty adept at getting his legislative agenda enacted.

One more time VW, next time don't run a loser? Ok? This is a democracy, and last November, you lost.

I didn't lose a thing. I just voted. The whole country lost and they can't blame me. However, I'm quite sure than not voting for a candidate doesn't preclude anyone from voicing an opinion and attempting to block their policies. Obama hasn't done all that much, so we disagree with his adeptness at getting his agenda enacted. Nearly 10% unemployment - and that's not counting the unemployed who've dropped off the radar - and triple the debt are things only a kool-aid guzzler can celebrate and call an economic recovery.

Barry can't even keep his promises not to raise taxes, be transparent, post bills before votes, not hire lobbyists, and adopt a kennel dog. He's just getting started being a big disappointment. I have the luxury of knowing he's not my fault. That's my victory.

So sorry, we went over this yesterday, the bill is online for all to see, shut off Fox and go read it.

Also, so sorry, but the size of the mess, and indications things are improving via the path baby stepped at the end by Bush to help fix his own mess, and which Obama added to in spades was a huge accomplishment.

Obama is making good time on any number of his agenda items he indicated were priorities while running.

By your reasoning, Bush wasn't my fault, but I lived with him. Now on to bigger and better things, that is my victory.

I've already read more than one version of the bill. I'm not sure what planet you're on, but on earth, Obama's faltering. Take off your blinders and . . . On the other hand, nix that. I enjoy seeing grown up libs cry.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Citizens 18 and over, not otherwise barred, are eligible to vote. At some points in history, some voting blocs are more motivated than others. The Black vote put Obama over the top. So, we should blame them when he fails and we're seeking further recovery.

Too bad the economy seems to be recovering already, although there is likely a long hard road to total recovery. Also too bad that Obama seems pretty adept at getting his legislative agenda enacted.

One more time VW, next time don't run a loser? Ok? This is a democracy, and last November, you lost.

I didn't lose a thing. I just voted. The whole country lost and they can't blame me. However, I'm quite sure than not voting for a candidate doesn't preclude anyone from voicing an opinion and attempting to block their policies. Obama hasn't done all that much, so we disagree with his adeptness at getting his agenda enacted. Nearly 10% unemployment - and that's not counting the unemployed who've dropped off the radar - and triple the debt are things only a kool-aid guzzler can celebrate and call an economic recovery.

Barry can't even keep his promises not to raise taxes, be transparent, post bills before votes, not hire lobbyists, and adopt a kennel dog. He's just getting started being a big disappointment. I have the luxury of knowing he's not my fault. That's my victory.

So sorry, we went over this yesterday, the bill is online for all to see, shut off Fox and go read it.

Also, so sorry, but the size of the mess, and indications things are improving via the path baby stepped at the end by Bush to help fix his own mess, and which Obama added to in spades was a huge accomplishment.

Obama is making good time on any number of his agenda items he indicated were priorities while running.

By your reasoning, Bush wasn't my fault, but I lived with him. Now on to bigger and better things, that is my victory.

I've already read more than one version of the bill. I'm not sure what planet you're on, but on earth, Obama's faltering. Take off your blinders and . . . On the other hand, nix that. I enjoy seeing grown up libs cry.

If he is not succeeding with his agenda, what are you whining about?

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Citizens 18 and over, not otherwise barred, are eligible to vote. At some points in history, some voting blocs are more motivated than others. The Black vote put Obama over the top. So, we should blame them when he fails and we're seeking further recovery.

Too bad the economy seems to be recovering already, although there is likely a long hard road to total recovery. Also too bad that Obama seems pretty adept at getting his legislative agenda enacted.

One more time VW, next time don't run a loser? Ok? This is a democracy, and last November, you lost.

I didn't lose a thing. I just voted. The whole country lost and they can't blame me. However, I'm quite sure than not voting for a candidate doesn't preclude anyone from voicing an opinion and attempting to block their policies. Obama hasn't done all that much, so we disagree with his adeptness at getting his agenda enacted. Nearly 10% unemployment - and that's not counting the unemployed who've dropped off the radar - and triple the debt are things only a kool-aid guzzler can celebrate and call an economic recovery.

Barry can't even keep his promises not to raise taxes, be transparent, post bills before votes, not hire lobbyists, and adopt a kennel dog. He's just getting started being a big disappointment. I have the luxury of knowing he's not my fault. That's my victory.

So sorry, we went over this yesterday, the bill is online for all to see, shut off Fox and go read it.

Also, so sorry, but the size of the mess, and indications things are improving via the path baby stepped at the end by Bush to help fix his own mess, and which Obama added to in spades was a huge accomplishment.

Obama is making good time on any number of his agenda items he indicated were priorities while running.

By your reasoning, Bush wasn't my fault, but I lived with him. Now on to bigger and better things, that is my victory.

I've already read more than one version of the bill. I'm not sure what planet you're on, but on earth, Obama's faltering. Take off your blinders and . . . On the other hand, nix that. I enjoy seeing grown up libs cry.

If he is not succeeding with his agenda, what are you whining about?

Having an opinion contrary to yours is whining? If Barry's succeeding with his agenda, why's he often complaining about Fox, Rush, and anyone else who opposes him? A president who believes everyone should agree with him is asking for trouble. I'm not sure why you hae a problem with my disagreement with him, either. Politics is adversarial. That's par for the course.

[Niels Bohr 72]

"In the meantime, those who actually purport to be journalists and lawmakers have let law enforcement slide, attacked our Constitution, advocated their own personal biases and manufactured crisis..."

So as a Conserative, were you for or against the Bush Administration? Just wondering because your statement I bolded was what we endured the last 8 years.

Do you think Bush and conservative are related? I assure you, they are not. I don't worry so much about the past 8 years. I lived thru Jimmy Carter and Nixon. Both were far worse than Bush. The past is over. I'm more concerned about the here and now.

The Conservatives are what put the Bush Administration in office in the first place. The past may be over but we are still living the legacy of the past 8 years and will be until we can reverse the damage that they caused. I think personally Bush himself wasn't as bad as Nixon but his administration (some of which served under Nixon) were.

I agree.

Currently, these people are furthering their efforts by destroying themselves with rhetorical ideas. Socialists? Where have our country moved to? Equal land? Equal share? Nothing. I still see rich people being taxed the most. I still see poor people being taxed less. Heck, I still see people getting enough food to eat daily. No homeless people starving on the streets (maybe one or two but not thousands). Socialist country don't have charities. Heck, we still have time to go online and posts on threads.

Edited August 12, 2009 by Niels Bohr

[nowhereman 1]

It seemed to be ok to call Bush the same things when he was president. Seems to hurt the bleating sheep when the same names get used toward their grand Socialist.

Or the same people who stood silently while the Bush administration wrecked the country are now screaming bloody murder over anything & everything Obama does. Works both ways buddy.

[nowhereman 1]

Citizens 18 and over, not otherwise barred, are eligible to vote. At some points in history, some voting blocs are more motivated than others. The Black vote put Obama over the top. So, we should blame them when he fails and we're seeking further recovery.

Too bad the economy seems to be recovering already, although there is likely a long hard road to total recovery. Also too bad that Obama seems pretty adept at getting his legislative agenda enacted.

One more time VW, next time don't run a loser? Ok? This is a democracy, and last November, you lost.

I didn't lose a thing. I just voted. The whole country lost and they can't blame me. However, I'm quite sure than not voting for a candidate doesn't preclude anyone from voicing an opinion and attempting to block their policies. Obama hasn't done all that much, so we disagree with his adeptness at getting his agenda enacted. Nearly 10% unemployment - and that's not counting the unemployed who've dropped off the radar - and triple the debt are things only a kool-aid guzzler can celebrate and call an economic recovery.

Barry can't even keep his promises not to raise taxes, be transparent, post bills before votes, not hire lobbyists, and adopt a kennel dog. He's just getting started being a big disappointment. I have the luxury of knowing he's not my fault. That's my victory.

So sorry, we went over this yesterday, the bill is online for all to see, shut off Fox and go read it.

Also, so sorry, but the size of the mess, and indications things are improving via the path baby stepped at the end by Bush to help fix his own mess, and which Obama added to in spades was a huge accomplishment.

Obama is making good time on any number of his agenda items he indicated were priorities while running.

By your reasoning, Bush wasn't my fault, but I lived with him. Now on to bigger and better things, that is my victory.

I've already read more than one version of the bill. I'm not sure what planet you're on, but on earth, Obama's faltering. Take off your blinders and . . . On the other hand, nix that. I enjoy seeing grown up libs cry.

VW you made your mind up about Obama a very long time ago... in your mind he has failed & will fail regardless of what the actual facts are. You are a hopeless partisan sheep, incapable of independent thought & stuck on the same worn-out messages about liberals, socialists, etc (labels individuals like you overuse & abuse freely). A few pages ago you lectured someone about circular logic... sorry I didn't respond but I just stopped laughing... that's like Michael Vick lecturing someone about animal abuse. You're a real class act & always the entertainer. Keep up the good work!

[Niels Bohr 72]

Should be in everyone's nightmares. Especially immigrants from communist countries.

Well...That's good. You guys like to rule people by fear by saying the liberals are socialists, communism.

Make sure you don't come near me, or I'll feed you to the slaughter house because after all, I'm a communist like you said. Muwhahaha.

You have no idea about democracry if you labeled me as a communist. I am very democratic.

Edited August 12, 2009 by Niels Bohr

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Fine - you don't idolise Rush. You just reference him (a lot).

Of course there's not even a pause for thought when it comes to dire state of the media in this country and how the press aren't filling their natural role in a democratic society - the horror! Of course the popularity of media personalities (like Rush) doesn't factor into that picture at all, does it.

No need to answer - I get it. And I'm sure there's room for a semantic reversal of my words - which in lieu of a counterpoint you may feel free to put up.

It's what I expect.

Here's some news for you, I don't reference him alot. I acknowledge that I listen to him, and I will correct misinformation about him, but I rarely raise the subject of Rush myself. Since he's a Leftist target, you Leftists have been effectively programmed, like Pavlov's dogs, to react to any objections to Barry's agenda by blaming Bush and Rush, so he comes up alot.

Rush does factor into the equation, but not nearly as much as politicians who make law do. Since Rush isn't a journalist nor a politician, merely a pundit, I'm not sure why he looms so large for libs other than he sticks in Barry's craw. He's been around for a long time, and during that time, Democrats and Republicans came and went in and out of power. He didn't make any of that happen. During that time, he hasn't started nor ended a war, levied a tax, signed or vetoed a bill, or sanctioned a treaty. He has nothing more than a microphone and his own opinions to offer.

In the meantime, those who actually purport to be journalists and lawmakers have let law enforcement slide, attacked our Constitution, advocated their own personal biases and manufactured crisis to further an agenda that seeks to convince us that the US is a cancer on the earth. Obama runs around apologizing to communists and dictators for slights, real and imagined and talking this country down, to the delight of the liberal media. Those are the people I have my eye on and the ones who concern me the most.

Keep your eye on them by all means.

But once a partisan extremist, always a partisan extremist... The polarised black and white views you (and others) espouse that require people to be generalised and placed into neat little labelled boxes are as bad a problem as deficient journalism. In fact, when soundbite talking points are repeated verbatim from politicians, columnists and media personalities (like Rush) I question whether those attitudes can be separated from the bad journalism at all.

Seems to me that the poster who went off on that rather crazy off the wall rant when I asked for clarity on Rush's alleged 98.8% is a classic case in point.

If you're here to constantly remind people that they are partisan, you're wasting your time. People who post on political threads do so because they tend to take sides on issues. I'm not a middle of the road, millymouth, non-commital fence sitter, but then, I'm not a journalist whose role is to be objective and informative, under the mandate of the First Amendment. I don't have to be impartial, nor does anyone else here, so stop confusing opinionated voters here with the Constitutionally protected media.

You're right - you don't have to be impartial.

You just have to be honest (actually no you don't have to be that either, it being a free country and all, but its surely a good thing set your aim somewhat high, eh?) - and constantly stereotyping people in order to villify them and their views isn't honest.

It's also best not to be hypocritical. You'll have to be around here for a lot longer in order to have spent more time not stereotypng and villifying posters and ideas you disgree with than you will have spent stereotyping them, so far. Let us know when to start the countdown.

Put it this way, your paint box only has one brush in it, and its a mighty wide one. All its good for us painting "liberal" in very large letters.

Perhaps you can let us know when you buy some finer ones.

[jundp 191]

I stopped reading all the bs on page two.

But, as to the OP: it's ridiculous RIDICULOUS for anyone in this day and age to ever use the Nazis as a comparison for anything...unless you are comparing genocide to genocide. End of story.

[nowhereman 1]

Pike don't waste your time with VW... she'll argue herself into a corner & then recycle what she said 2 pages ago. At least with Rogue you get an occasionally funny one-liner!

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

One more time VW, next time don't run a loser? Ok? This is a democracy, and last November, you america lost.

fixxored

It seemed to be ok to call Bush the same things when he was president. Seems to hurt the bleating sheep when the same names get used toward their grand Socialist.

Or the same people who stood silently while the Bush administration wrecked the country are now screaming bloody murder over anything & everything Obama does. Works both ways buddy.

why yes, it does.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

One more time VW, next time don't run a loser? Ok? This is a democracy, and last November, you america lost.

fixxored

It seemed to be ok to call Bush the same things when he was president. Seems to hurt the bleating sheep when the same names get used toward their grand Socialist.

Or the same people who stood silently while the Bush administration wrecked the country are now screaming bloody murder over anything & everything Obama does. Works both ways buddy.

why yes, it does.

Maybe he will get it when his dollar is worth half a cent and all his dreamy social programs are gone.

[HAL 9000 96]

I stopped reading all the bs on page two.

But, as to the OP: it's ridiculous RIDICULOUS for anyone in this day and age to ever use the Nazis as a comparison for anything...unless you are comparing genocide to genocide. End of story.

You notice I'm not contributing to the back and forth right?

Too much not-realizing-it-doesn't serve-any-good to play with people that are angry, very angry (with all the irrational anger that comes from such anger), and oppose anything that the current administration and Congressional structure just out of spite.

Even the former Reagan staffer David Gergen mentioned how all this anger will have a civil backlash against the source of the angry... making for some more sour grapes as the volume of sour whine continues to decrease.

[Danno 1,228]

My first response to this article was how unfortunate it was this guy used the WW2 story of his father for such a cheap political swipe at the Right.

(Thats pretty low)

Really and truly the Left use the Hitler/ Nazi association are a regular tactic, the only one they use more is "racist".

I suspect Rush and others are trying to return the same attacks that have been a constant at them.

Generally Elected officials are more careful but; someone help me remember...... Didn't some Congressman/ Senator Use the Nazi comparison when speaking of Gitmo Prison in Cuba?

Now I'm wondering.... if Using the Nazi comparison is ... or should be, off limits (at least until the Dems are out of power)... is the Communist comparison still Kool?

One could add up the deaths, figure in the the equally inhumane treatment of "its" victims and make an equally (perhaps even more) compelling case for make Communisms comparative use as taboo too.

I say let people use what terms they want, I think it is clear when someone "over-reaches" with such extreme comparisons anyway.

Certainly no one thinks Rush, Palin Beck are "Deniers" (no matter what else you might think) to even post this piece here with a straight face is laughable.

Thanks Gary, I knew someone "had gone there".

Why no outrage when this was said..... and said from the Senate floor by an elected official..... ABOUT OUR TROOPS!!