'Un-American' attacks can't derail health care debate

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

What planet are you righties from? Want to see the bills? There are indeed several versions in the works, and are indeed AVAILABLE. That they aren't is your Fox News, ** talking radio host idiocracy via disinformation in action...

http://www.citizen.org/hrg/healthcare/articles.cfm?ID=18405

Click the link, read away, and please for love of all that is holy, cease and desist from constantly parroting your fearless Right leadership! Some of you may want to help he who shouts socialist with every post in reading through the bills.

Presumably its easier for people to let the media do their thinking for them...

[Tinkerbell TX 0]

of all the people who would be most likely to give real examples of ways to make the system better, none were ever asked for their opinions or ideas. Shouldn't the people who drafted this monstrosity of a bill have asked DOCTORS and people who use doctors what works and what doesn't?

You must have missed the AMA's expressed support of HR3200.

"On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the American Medical Association, I am writing to express our appreciation and support for H.R. 3200, the 'America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009,'" says Dr. Michael Maves, the AMA's executive vice president and CEO.

"It's not blue or red, or Democratic or Republican. This is something that is the AMA's core values," Rohack [AMA's Prsident] said. "The status quo that is 50 million Americans not having health insurance, a system that has administrative waste and as a result drives up premiums so that it is unaffordable for many patients — that is just not acceptable."

...

House Committee Passes AMA-Supported Revisions to Health Reform Bill

Aug. 1, 2009

Statement attributable to:

J. James Rohack, MD

President, American Medical Association

“The House Energy and Commerce committee passed important AMA-supported revisions to the House bill that will allow physicians to negotiate payment rates in the public plan option and guarantee voluntary physician participation. We applaud members of the committee for recognizing that the ability to negotiate payment rates will help ensure physician participation. The committee also passed medical liability reform.

“The House bill expands coverage through a choice in plans, eliminates denials based on pre-existing conditions and repeals the flawed Medicare physician payment formula.”

Seems to me that Physicians have not only been consulted but have had their voices heard and stand with the administration and the Democrat led Congress in the effort to reform the broken health care system.

And the AMA represents 20% of Doctors, so your point is?

[Ban Hammer 13,340]

Look, I know how we are going to solve this issue. We need the same genius who decided to add gun legislation in during the credit card reform. After all, what is more important than preventing credit card companies from screwing us than ensuring Yogi bear does not attack us. I cannot wait to hear this guys stance on health care. Probably propose allowing people carry guns into hospitals.

it may make getting a second opinion easier.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

of all the people who would be most likely to give real examples of ways to make the system better, none were ever asked for their opinions or ideas. Shouldn't the people who drafted this monstrosity of a bill have asked DOCTORS and people who use doctors what works and what doesn't?

You must have missed the AMA's expressed support of HR3200.

"On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the American Medical Association, I am writing to express our appreciation and support for H.R. 3200, the 'America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009,'" says Dr. Michael Maves, the AMA's executive vice president and CEO.

"It's not blue or red, or Democratic or Republican. This is something that is the AMA's core values," Rohack [AMA's Prsident] said. "The status quo that is 50 million Americans not having health insurance, a system that has administrative waste and as a result drives up premiums so that it is unaffordable for many patients — that is just not acceptable."

...

House Committee Passes AMA-Supported Revisions to Health Reform Bill

Aug. 1, 2009

Statement attributable to:

J. James Rohack, MD

President, American Medical Association

“The House Energy and Commerce committee passed important AMA-supported revisions to the House bill that will allow physicians to negotiate payment rates in the public plan option and guarantee voluntary physician participation. We applaud members of the committee for recognizing that the ability to negotiate payment rates will help ensure physician participation. The committee also passed medical liability reform.

“The House bill expands coverage through a choice in plans, eliminates denials based on pre-existing conditions and repeals the flawed Medicare physician payment formula.”

Seems to me that Physicians have not only been consulted but have had their voices heard and stand with the administration and the Democrat led Congress in the effort to reform the broken health care system.

And the AMA represents 20% of Doctors, so your point is?

And the AMA is not the only physician organization supporting health care reform.

DOCTORS FOR AMERICA APPLAUDS HOUSE REFORM EFFORTS

Doctors: Payment reform, insurance coverage concerns addressed in bill

WASHINGTON, DC—Doctors for America applauded the bill announced today by the House as progress toward health care reform that will help patients and the doctors who treat them. The content of the bill, which provides increased access to affordable, high quality health care for all Americans while controlling the cost of health care for our patients and our nation, resonated with the group.

“Doctors across the country have told us that our health care system must be fixed so we can take better care of our patients. We are pleased that the House included a public insurance option in their plan – an option that means choice and affordability for patients to access the care they need,” said Dr. Vivek Murthy of Doctors for America. “Doctors on the front lines have pushed for payment structure changes so that they can focus on quality of patients’ care, and this bill does a good job addressing that concern, as well.”

Under the current Medicare payment system, doctors are rewarded for the number of patients they treat by the reimbursement formulas in the program, but no emphasis is placed on the quality of treatment or prevention and wellness. The bill announced today not only addresses this disparity, it rewards physicians for the most important thing – giving patients the best care possible.

Doctors for America remains committed to bringing the voices of doctors to the reform process on Capitol Hill. Last week, they pushed the urgent message of health reform in person by delivering an X-ray diagnosis of the nation’s failing health system to all one hundred Senators.

Doctors for America is a grassroots group of over 13,000 physicians with a presence in all fifty states committed to passing meaningful health reform legislation. The group works to convey the ideas and experiences of physicians in order to achieve reform that provides high quality, affordable healthcare for all Americans.

Also

The American Academy of Family Physicians, American College of Physicians and American Osteopathic Association, who collectively represent more than 330,000 physicians, released a joint statement June 18 in support of reform.

Then, there are the Physicians for National Health Program and countless other physician organizations in support of health care reform. This support is broad while the opposition would appear to be in the minority.

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of all the people who would be most likely to give real examples of ways to make the system better, none were ever asked for their opinions or ideas. Shouldn't the people who drafted this monstrosity of a bill have asked DOCTORS and people who use doctors what works and what doesn't?

You must have missed the AMA's expressed support of HR3200.

"On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the American Medical Association, I am writing to express our appreciation and support for H.R. 3200, the 'America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009,'" says Dr. Michael Maves, the AMA's executive vice president and CEO.

"It's not blue or red, or Democratic or Republican. This is something that is the AMA's core values," Rohack [AMA's Prsident] said. "The status quo that is 50 million Americans not having health insurance, a system that has administrative waste and as a result drives up premiums so that it is unaffordable for many patients — that is just not acceptable."

...

House Committee Passes AMA-Supported Revisions to Health Reform Bill

Aug. 1, 2009

Statement attributable to:

J. James Rohack, MD

President, American Medical Association

“The House Energy and Commerce committee passed important AMA-supported revisions to the House bill that will allow physicians to negotiate payment rates in the public plan option and guarantee voluntary physician participation. We applaud members of the committee for recognizing that the ability to negotiate payment rates will help ensure physician participation. The committee also passed medical liability reform.

“The House bill expands coverage through a choice in plans, eliminates denials based on pre-existing conditions and repeals the flawed Medicare physician payment formula.”

Seems to me that Physicians have not only been consulted but have had their voices heard and stand with the administration and the Democrat led Congress in the effort to reform the broken health care system.

And the AMA represents 20% of Doctors, so your point is?

And the AMA is not the only physician organization supporting health care reform.

DOCTORS FOR AMERICA APPLAUDS HOUSE REFORM EFFORTS

Doctors: Payment reform, insurance coverage concerns addressed in bill

WASHINGTON, DC—Doctors for America applauded the bill announced today by the House as progress toward health care reform that will help patients and the doctors who treat them. The content of the bill, which provides increased access to affordable, high quality health care for all Americans while controlling the cost of health care for our patients and our nation, resonated with the group.

“Doctors across the country have told us that our health care system must be fixed so we can take better care of our patients. We are pleased that the House included a public insurance option in their plan – an option that means choice and affordability for patients to access the care they need,” said Dr. Vivek Murthy of Doctors for America. “Doctors on the front lines have pushed for payment structure changes so that they can focus on quality of patients’ care, and this bill does a good job addressing that concern, as well.”

Under the current Medicare payment system, doctors are rewarded for the number of patients they treat by the reimbursement formulas in the program, but no emphasis is placed on the quality of treatment or prevention and wellness. The bill announced today not only addresses this disparity, it rewards physicians for the most important thing – giving patients the best care possible.

Doctors for America remains committed to bringing the voices of doctors to the reform process on Capitol Hill. Last week, they pushed the urgent message of health reform in person by delivering an X-ray diagnosis of the nation’s failing health system to all one hundred Senators.

Doctors for America is a grassroots group of over 13,000 physicians with a presence in all fifty states committed to passing meaningful health reform legislation. The group works to convey the ideas and experiences of physicians in order to achieve reform that provides high quality, affordable healthcare for all Americans.

Also

The American Academy of Family Physicians, American College of Physicians and American Osteopathic Association, who collectively represent more than 330,000 physicians, released a joint statement June 18 in support of reform.

Then, there are the Physicians for National Health Program and countless other physician organizations in support of health care reform. This support is broad while the opposition would appear to be in the minority.

doh!

[GaryC 7]

Physicians speak out on health care bill

Many say the costly plan won't fix problems

By CINDY HORSWELL

HOUSTON CHRONICLE

Aug. 6, 2009, 10:04PM

Johnny Hanson Chronicle

Rep. Kevin Brady said Medicare needs to be fixed before new reforms are enacted.

Physicians jammed a town hall meeting in The Woodlands on Thursday, expressing fears about the cost and effectiveness of a health care reform bill that could come up for a vote in Congress as early as September.

U.S. Rep. Kevin Brady, R-The Woodlands, hosted the meeting attended by about 90 physicians at Memorial Hermann Hospital-The Woodlands.

“The bottom line is that doctors don't want socialized medicine — another flawed health care system like Medicare. They don't believe it will lower the costs or improve quality,” Brady said. “Medicare is already going bankrupt and not quality care. It also shifts medical costs onto other paying customers. It needs to be fixed first.”

The bill is designed to insure 94 percent of all Americans (excluding those covered by Medicare, which kicks in at age 65) and would cost an estimated $1.5 trillion over 10 years. The revenue to pay for it would come from $544 billion over the next decade in income taxes on single people making more than $280,000 annually and couples making more than $350,000 annually; $37 billion in business taxes; $500 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid; and sizable penalties paid by individuals and employers who don't obtain coverage.

“I am very concerned about what this will cost us in terms of dollars,” said Dr. William Parker, the chief medical officer where the meeting was held. “Before this week, they did not tell us any details of the plan. We've had too little time to read, digest and discuss something that will be such a major overhaul of the health care system.”

U.S. Rep. Gene Green, a Democrat who represents a blue-collar area from Baytown to Denver Harbor east of Houston, has held four meetings on the health care plan and received mixed reviews.

“There seems to be an organized Republican effort to have people come to a Democrat's town meeting and dominate the discussions,” Green said. “Some have admitted they don't live in my area. This has never happened to me before.”

He plans to hold more meetings and only admit those who live in his district. Green said many citizens seem to have misconceptions about the plan. He said it will be a boost for his lower-income district, which has many more uninsured residents than The Woodlands.

“This plan will provide health care for 223,000 of the 243,000 who have no health care plans in my district,” he said,

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metrop...an/6563705.html

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Steve, why do you have a weiner as a signature?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Steve, why do you have a weiner as a signature?

I think that's pronounced "whiner".

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Steve, why do you have a weiner as a signature?

I think that's pronounced "whiner".

Did you cry when you died at the end of Die Hard?

I have a cabinet I bought from you guys that I've been trying to put together for 6 months.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Steve, why do you have a weiner as a signature?

I think that's pronounced "whiner".

Look down, someone needs a moist towelette.

Steve, why do you have a weiner as a signature?

I think that's pronounced "whiner".

Did you cry when you died at the end of Die Hard?

I have a cabinet I bought from you guys that I've been trying to put together for 6 months.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You didn't see the movie, Marc

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Steve, why do you have a weiner as a signature?

I think that's pronounced "whiner".

Did you cry when you died at the end of Die Hard?

I have a cabinet I bought from you guys that I've been trying to put together for 6 months.

Evidently, you don't have the right equipment.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Steve, why do you have a weiner as a signature?

I think that's pronounced "whiner".

Did you cry when you died at the end of Die Hard?

I have a cabinet I bought from you guys that I've been trying to put together for 6 months.

Evidently, you don't have the right equipment.

Lets just refer to him as wiener jr. Nice pic by the way.