citizenship

[nigel 7]

Hi all,

Its been a while but i just wanted to be a lazy #######, as i know the answers are all in VJ but i spent a long time on this forum yrs ago and just wanted a breif short Qs if ya dont mind please....i know ..i know....lol

Ok....been here married for 6yrs to usc got my G/C IR/1 over 3 yrs ago....So i can apply for C/ship Yes?

Now im in florida do i apply here in Florida or somewhere else?

is it form N 400 i file?

how much do they want off me now? more $$$$ again...

I see on members timeline it takes about 3/5mths correct...?

whats this test all about?... sorry i know im lazy #######....somebody show me the link to the test Qs please as one link was a pgf and my pdf software dont work on this dam pc....sorry again..

Thanks guys and dolls....again im so wacked from work ect..i just wanted sombody to give me the jist of this us citizenship stuff..

[annelizabeth 1]

You know you are in danger of being flamed!!!!

[NickD 203]

Your homework assignment for tonight is to download and printout the N-400 form, instructions, and the M-476 manual. Read and study these, tomorrow there will be one thousand question test for you to take.

[-B&T- 1]

Hi all,

Its been a while but i just wanted to be a lazy #######, as i know the answers are all in VJ but i spent a long time on this forum yrs ago and just wanted a breif short Qs if ya dont mind please....i know ..i know....lol

Ok....been here married for 6yrs to usc got my G/C IR/1 over 3 yrs ago....So i can apply for C/ship Yes?

Now im in florida do i apply here in Florida or somewhere else?-

is it form N 400 i file?

how much do they want off me now? more $ again...

I see on members timeline it takes about 3/5mths correct...?

whats this test all about?... sorry i know im lazy #######....somebody show me the link to the test Qs please as one link was a pgf and my pdf software dont work on this dam pc....sorry again..

Thanks guys and dolls....again im so wacked from work ect..i just wanted sombody to give me the jist of this us citizenship stuff..

1.Yes you may apply now.

2. Since you are in Florida, you may send your application to:

a.) USCIS LOCKBOX FACILITY

USCIS

P.O.BOX 299026

LEWISVILLE, TX 75029

b.)FOR PRIVATE COURIER (NON USPS)DELIVERIES

USCIS

ATTENTION: N-400

2501 S.STATE FWY 121, BLDG.4

LEWISVILLE,TX 75067

3. Yes.N-400 Form

4.You are going to pay $675 for the naturalization. ($595 filing fee+$80 biometrics fee)

5. There's 100 civics and history test questions for the new naturalization test on USCIS website where you can practice.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/men...CRD&print=0

http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/M-476.pdf

Good luck.Hope this helps.

[richa 0]

i don't know about your all other questions but you can go to www.uscis.gov and download form N-400 from immigration forms tab and also there is one tab called Education and study from that you can print study material for test of citizenship.

[wannabe_texan 0]

VJ's new naturalization guide would be a good place to start also: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...alization_guide

[nigel 7]

Thanks a bunch guys i know i should known better and i could have got grilled but you all proberly gave me a break being im a old fart/timer on here..

ok....besides all that i did do some homework beleive it or not... as one member kindly mention about this citizenship deal, and that was being out the usa for certain amounts of time during your G/C was given.....and ive read some different rules in this department..

Ive been married to a usc for almost 7 yrs...ive had my IR/1 G/C for 3yrs 3mths....in that time of holding a G/C i proberly spent about in tottal approx 20mths on and off inside the us over the last 3yrs/3mths.... of this time ive been in the us for 15mths without any breaks....outside the us

Reasons for breaks outside the usa after getting G/C it is valid....personal family reasons, business, and getting my uk house sold or rented ect..

Now the dreaded Q i wanted to ask will this be a problem for interveiw citizenship? or should i wait to clock up some more G/C miles before i dig deep into my moneyless pockets....?

Like i said ive read some say it be ok If you can proov why you was outside the usa, and some say no i need to have at least 20mths without a break..

Any Comments people....?

[lucyrich 20]

Thanks a bunch guys i know i should known better and i could have got grilled but you all proberly gave me a break being im a old fart/timer on here..

ok....besides all that i did do some homework beleive it or not... as one member kindly mention about this citizenship deal, and that was being out the usa for certain amounts of time during your G/C was given.....and ive read some different rules in this department..

Ive been married to a usc for almost 7 yrs...ive had my IR/1 G/C for 3yrs 3mths....in that time of holding a G/C i proberly spent about in tottal approx 20mths on and off inside the us over the last 3yrs/3mths.... of this time ive been in the us for 15mths without any breaks....outside the us

Reasons for breaks outside the usa after getting G/C it is valid....personal family reasons, business, and getting my uk house sold or rented ect..

Now the dreaded Q i wanted to ask will this be a problem for interveiw citizenship? or should i wait to clock up some more G/C miles before i dig deep into my moneyless pockets....?

Like i said ive read some say it be ok If you can proov why you was outside the usa, and some say no i need to have at least 20mths without a break..

Any Comments people....?

The M-476 is your friend. Read it and study it, especially the part about "continuous residence" and "physical presence".

The reasons for absence don't matter, assuming they weren't for something like service in the US armed forces (that might make naturalization easier) or illegal purposes like smuggling or trafficking (that would be bad). But ordinarily, they don't care whether you travelled because you wanted to take a silly meaningless vacation, or because you had to take care of an ill family member.

If you've had any single absence for more than 6 months, that's probably a break in your continuous residence, though perhaps not necessarily.

There's a "physical presence" requirement, which basically says that you must have spent at least half of your required continous residence time actually inside the US. So if you're applying under the "three years married to and living with a US Citizen spouse" rule, you must have spent at least half of the days of the past three years inside the US.

None of us here can tell if you're eligible without seeing all of the dates of entry and exit. And even if we had the dates, we'd probably want you to do the math.

[nigel 7]

Thanks a bunch guys i know i should known better and i could have got grilled but you all proberly gave me a break being im a old fart/timer on here..

ok....besides all that i did do some homework beleive it or not... as one member kindly mention about this citizenship deal, and that was being out the usa for certain amounts of time during your G/C was given.....and ive read some different rules in this department..

Ive been married to a usc for almost 7 yrs...ive had my IR/1 G/C for 3yrs 3mths....in that time of holding a G/C i proberly spent about in tottal approx 20mths on and off inside the us over the last 3yrs/3mths.... of this time ive been in the us for 15mths without any breaks....outside the us

Reasons for breaks outside the usa after getting G/C it is valid....personal family reasons, business, and getting my uk house sold or rented ect..

Now the dreaded Q i wanted to ask will this be a problem for interveiw citizenship? or should i wait to clock up some more G/C miles before i dig deep into my moneyless pockets....?

Like i said ive read some say it be ok If you can proov why you was outside the usa, and some say no i need to have at least 20mths without a break..

Any Comments people....?

The M-476 is your friend. Read it and study it, especially the part about "continuous residence" and "physical presence".

The reasons for absence don't matter, assuming they weren't for something like service in the US armed forces (that might make naturalization easier) or illegal purposes like smuggling or trafficking (that would be bad). But ordinarily, they don't care whether you travelled because you wanted to take a silly meaningless vacation, or because you had to take care of an ill family member.

If you've had any single absence for more than 6 months, that's probably a break in your continuous residence, though perhaps not necessarily.

There's a "physical presence" requirement, which basically says that you must have spent at least half of your required continous residence time actually inside the US. So if you're applying under the "three years married to and living with a US Citizen spouse" rule, you must have spent at least half of the days of the past three years inside the US.

None of us here can tell if you're eligible without seeing all of the dates of entry and exit. And even if we had the dates, we'd probably want you to do the math.

Hi Yep Many thanks for your input, i will take your advise and read up on the M-476 stuff...

without looking at my passport i think all in all in the last 3 yrs, and add it up to date is about 18/20 mths inside the us.. not good but not bad neither so with saying all that by the time this n401 goes to the interveiw i would have clocked up a extra 3/5 mths, which should leave me in better shape...maybe....but as of todays mileage its touch and go at the mo i feel..

I just don't want to pay all this cash out for them to say sorry you havent spent time in the us as needed...and they say apply next year and pay again.....im not sure if you have to pay again tho....but anyway....thanks for your advice.

[lucyrich 20]

by the time this n401 goes to the interveiw i would have clocked up a extra 3/5 mths, which should leave me in better shape...maybe

Note that you've got to meet the requirements on three separate days: On the day you file, on the day you are interviewed, and on the day you take the oath. If you miss the requirements on any one of these days, even if you only miss by one day, then you can't become a citizen and you have to wait until you meet the requirements and file again, paying a new fee.

So it's worth checking to make absolutely sure you meet the requirements before you file.

[nigel 7]

by the time this n401 goes to the interveiw i would have clocked up a extra 3/5 mths, which should leave me in better shape...maybe

Note that you've got to meet the requirements on three separate days: On the day you file, on the day you are interviewed, and on the day you take the oath. If you miss the requirements on any one of these days, even if you only miss by one day, then you can't become a citizen and you have to wait until you meet the requirements and file again, paying a new fee.

So it's worth checking to make absolutely sure you meet the requirements before you file.

yep good call thank you...

I did read up on IF.. outside the us for more than 6mths rule while you have a P/R card and it states that, you must show prove that you and your spouse was living/working or fileing IRS tax returns or any other prove ....the bottom line is they want to know you was both togethere as a married couple during that 3yr period of your P/R

So being its touch and go at the moment for me, is there a customer service centre i could call and speak with a human? instead of a robott that they normally use...would you know of such a number i can call?

Thank you for your input

Edited August 6, 2009 by nigel

[NickD 203]

Wife was working in patient assistance at the hospital with literally hundreds of forms, when an applicant came it, would do an income test, and find the best means for insurance, aid, or whatever, fill out the forms for that applicant, and send them off for approval. She would explain every question on the form to make sure it was correct. All the applicant had to do was to answer the questions honestly. Some didn't, they were rejected.

Wouldn't it be nice if the USCIS operated that way? Hire an immigration attorney or read the manual is the best thing they can tell you, and if you screw up, even on one question. They keep your fee and tell you to try again without really telling you why you were rejected. Then they ask for evidence not even listed in the manual or the the instructions.

[nigel 7]

Wife was working in patient assistance at the hospital with literally hundreds of forms, when an applicant came it, would do an income test, and find the best means for insurance, aid, or whatever, fill out the forms for that applicant, and send them off for approval. She would explain every question on the form to make sure it was correct. All the applicant had to do was to answer the questions honestly. Some didn't, they were rejected.

Wouldn't it be nice if the USCIS operated that way? Hire an immigration attorney or read the manual is the best thing they can tell you, and if you screw up, even on one question. They keep your fee and tell you to try again without really telling you why you were rejected. Then they ask for evidence not even listed in the manual or the the instructions.

Not sure what your post got to with my Question..

[NickD 203]

You said you were lazy, was comparing how a hospital operates compared to the USCIS. If a person want to know if they can find lower cost insurance, get public aid, all they have to do is walk in, no charge for this service and an experienced person asks you pertinent questions. The hospital does all the work in checking out the accuracy of your statements, your income, cost of living, utility bills, ect.

USCIS does nothing to help you, can reject your form if you leave out a single N/Am their questions are nebulous requiring more work on your part. While the instructions state the time to fill out the application is about 4 hours, can be over 40 by the time you download all the manuals, instructions, and forms, find out where you fit in, gather and copy all the evidence, and double and triple and check everything. One goof on your part can cause delays or cost you 670 bucks you will never see again.

You cannot be lazy with the USCIS.

[nigel 7]

You said you were lazy, was comparing how a hospital operates compared to the USCIS. If a person want to know if they can find lower cost insurance, get public aid, all they have to do is walk in, no charge for this service and an experienced person asks you pertinent questions. The hospital does all the work in checking out the accuracy of your statements, your income, cost of living, utility bills, ect.

USCIS does nothing to help you, can reject your form if you leave out a single N/Am their questions are nebulous requiring more work on your part. While the instructions state the time to fill out the application is about 4 hours, can be over 40 by the time you download all the manuals, instructions, and forms, find out where you fit in, gather and copy all the evidence, and double and triple and check everything. One goof on your part can cause delays or cost you 670 bucks you will never see again.

You cannot be lazy with the USCIS.

Im Miffed at his/her replys.....where is all this going?.....ive been around pal..see my timeline....ive a good idea how this stuff works, but i don't know everything.....thats why i posted.....