Could Bush Be Prosecuted for War Crimes?

[ace13 0]

The US in your analogy is 'Mother Teresa'? Hmmmmm..

I was comparing personalities, not countries--don't read into it so much. Is a good person with a loaded gun the same as a serial killer with the same weapon?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It is that he is killing with them, not protecting his people and country.

But you will agree he's not alone in that. Why is he singled out for 'special treatment'?, and do you think the primary reason the US stepped in (against overwhelming international opposition) was a humanitarian one.

[PsychoKat 0]

It's not a fear that the US has WMD, it is a known fact that the US has WMD. It is a known fact the US possesses nuclear weapons. It is a known fact that the US has used nuclear weapons with devistating consequences in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That last point cannot be said of any country other than the US, not even Iraq.

what do you consider to be a weapon of mass destruction?

We are grouping chemical weapons and nuclear warheads in these definitions as a country. We have both.

iraq had chemical weapons, iraq used chemical weapons. end of story.

But not against the US.

That is my point here.

Pretend for a moment you are not a US citizen, that you are from some other country on the outside looking in.

The US could in actuality appear to be MORE of a threat than Iraq, because we are known to have these things and are known to have used them against other countries. Specifically pertaining to the threat of nuclear weapons.

certainly, since we've used nukes before

Thank you See I try to look at things from all points. I am not anti-patriotic, nor anti-America. My family has a long history on both sides of honorable military service and steadfast protection of our country and even in retirement voluntary community service, assistance to those in need and lives devoted to improving the world we live in. I admire them greatly for what they have done. I do not want to see the country they have spent so much of their lives defending and improving seen as what we are viewing Iraq as.

[VivaMexico 0]

But you will agree he's not alone in that. Why is he singled out for 'special treatment'?, and do you think the primary reason the US stepped in (against overwhelming international opposition) was a humanitarian one.

And overwhelming international SUPPORT:

Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Thailand, Tonga, United Kingdom, and Ukraine.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

But you will agree he's not alone in that. Why is he singled out for 'special treatment'?, and do you think the primary reason the US stepped in (against overwhelming international opposition) was a humanitarian one.

And overwhelming international SUPPORT:

Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Thailand, Tonga, United Kingdom, and Ukraine.

Ah yes... the coalition of the 'willing, threatened, and easily bribed'. That wasn't exactly clear cut either.

Edited July 11, 2006 by Fishdude

[VivaMexico 0]

But you will agree he's not alone in that. Why is he singled out for 'special treatment'?, and do you think the primary reason the US stepped in (against overwhelming international opposition) was a humanitarian one.

And overwhelming international SUPPORT:

Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Thailand, Tonga, United Kingdom, and Ukraine.

Ah yes... the coalition of the 'willing, threatened, and easily bribed'. That wasn't exactly clear cut either.

More conspiracy theory

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

But you will agree he's not alone in that. Why is he singled out for 'special treatment'?, and do you think the primary reason the US stepped in (against overwhelming international opposition) was a humanitarian one.

And overwhelming international SUPPORT:

Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Thailand, Tonga, United Kingdom, and Ukraine.

Ah yes... the coalition of the 'willing, threatened, and easily bribed'. That wasn't exactly clear cut either.

More conspiracy theory

If you say so.

[ace13 0]

But you will agree he's not alone in that. Why is he singled out for 'special treatment'?, and do you think the primary reason the US stepped in (against overwhelming international opposition) was a humanitarian one.

And overwhelming international SUPPORT:

Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Thailand, Tonga, United Kingdom, and Ukraine.

Ah yes... the coalition of the 'willing, threatened, and easily bribed'. That wasn't exactly clear cut either.

More conspiracy theory

The funny thing is the spin. UN corruption, bribes, payoffs, France, Russia. Back to you, Bob

[Ban Hammer 13,335]

But you will agree he's not alone in that. Why is he singled out for 'special treatment'?, and do you think the primary reason the US stepped in (against overwhelming international opposition) was a humanitarian one.

And overwhelming international SUPPORT:

Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Thailand, Tonga, United Kingdom, and Ukraine.

Ah yes... the coalition of the 'willing, threatened, and easily bribed'. That wasn't exactly clear cut either.

hmmm. the easily bribed. nice slander, fishdude

i note the uk on that list. which was it for them? bribery, or were they willing? or did we threaten to send them more mcdonald's franchises?

[ace13 0]

I just wanted to let y'all know I 've sure missed you! Where have these fun debates gone! It has been a while

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

hmmm. the easily bribed. nice slander, fishdude

i note the uk on that list. which was it for them? bribery, or were they willing? or did we threaten to send them more mcdonald's franchises?

The government was clearly 'willing', but the people were at best, massively divided - and like Bush has experienced, the popularlity and public trust in the Blair government fell sharply after they went ahead with this.

[VivaMexico 0]

If good government consisted of polling the public on every issue and siding with the "majority," you would likely be speaking German in England right now.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If good government consisted of polling the public on every issue and siding with the "majority," you would likely be speaking German in England right now.

If you say so. Doesn't change the fact that Iraq was a 'dirty' affair.

Out of curiousity - what do you think this war is about?

Edited July 11, 2006 by Fishdude

[ace13 0]

If good government consisted of polling the public on every issue and siding with the "majority," you would likely be speaking German in England right now.

If you say so. Doesn't change the fact that Iraq was a 'dirty' affair.

Out of curiousity - what do you think this war is about?

Good vs Evil

[VivaMexico 0]

If good government consisted of polling the public on every issue and siding with the "majority," you would likely be speaking German in England right now.

If you say so. Doesn't change the fact that Iraq was a 'dirty' affair.

Out of curiousity - what do you think this war is about?

Good vs Evil

That's the quick response. I would say deposing a dictator, stabilizing the middle east, killing terrorist thugs, and finding WMDs (which we have, by the way) all make good reasons.