Filing for 2nd K-1 ADVICE NEEDED

[FROG 0]

Frog,

Did you have any contact with your current sweetheart between June, 2008 and February, 2009?

FROG,

Your avoidance of a tough question might make one suspect that your previous sweetheart's abusiveness was driven by the discovery that you were still in contact with your now-current sweetheart. If this is correct, then closely timed K-1 applications and volatile women are the least of your problems.

I hope everyone else will forgive me for this...

I generally do not reply to this type of immaturity...

This is for TomT2566 ONLY...

Tom

I thought for awhile... considering if I will even waste my time, or the other members time, to answer you. Initially I had no intention to reply. God forgive me....

I am a Godly man... NOT a pervert ! I answer to GOD! And the last time I checked.. YOU ARE NOT GOD!

I am NOT avoiding any tough questions.. Your question is NOT a tough one for me at all. It's actually a bit childish and perverted! You are trying to twist this posting thread into a trashy posting. It has nothing to do with me asking for advice to clear up my connection with this woman so that I can move forward with my life. I do not see ANY reason for me to reply to any more of your perverted post following this one, AND I WILL NOT.

To satisfy your perverted thoughts... "NO I DID NOT HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH HER... NOT ONCE. ONLY AFTER THE BAD RELATIONSHIP ENDED ! " I hope you are satisfied? If not... GET OVER IT AND GET A LIFE !

For the record, I will not reply to any more of your post, or ANY of your replies to my post to you, nor will I reply to anyone elses that may reference it. So please do not wast our time. This is the FINAL one from me about you (or your posting) Obviously, I am a better person than that. You should be ashamed of yourself... if you are not... I am ashamed for you. I will pray for your problem.

The topic of this post is extremely clear.. "What do I need to do to clear my connection with the mistake I made with this woman?..." It is NOT intended for you to get your kicks off because of your own possible insecurities, issues or guilt. Thank you for "trying" to make this a trashy post... I will not lower myself or this site to your status.

God Bless

Robby

[johnnybgood265 3]

Mr frog, so sorry for your failed relationship. It happens sometimes, but if someone just got done kicking me below the belt, I would take sometime out to heal. Whats the rush to get kicked again, not saying you are, but you are acting to fast with these woman. My advise is to take sometime and get to know the woman good before marring. Ive been with my woman for over two years and i feel so much better and comfortable with my deceision on marriage. Anyway im not here to down you but just want you to think about what your next move. Good luck with whatever you decision is. Peace out

[Mountain Climber 186]

Good luck Robby. Hope everything works out for you.

[FROG 0]

Mr frog, so sorry for your failed relationship. It happens sometimes, but if someone just got done kicking me below the belt, I would take sometime out to heal. Whats the rush to get kicked again, not saying you are, but you are acting to fast with these woman. My advise is to take sometime and get to know the woman good before marring. Ive been with my woman for over two years and i feel so much better and comfortable with my deceision on marriage. Anyway im not here to down you but just want you to think about what your next move. Good luck with whatever you decision is. Peace out

Hi Johnny

Thank you for the advice on waiting. Please don't get me wrong, I appreciate it.

The advice I asked for is to find out WHO to contact, HOW to contact them to clear up my connection with the USCIS for the failed relationship.

I think I cleared up everyones question that I am NOT filing TODAY.

I'm not rushing to get kicked again, but I am rushing to clear up my connections with this woman in the eyes of USCIS.

I am not rushing with any woman/women.

As for my Next Move and current goal... It is to clear up my connection with the USCIS for the failed relationship. My current project is not filing K-1... as most here thought before I clearified...

My question I wish everyone would focus on has been answered by some great members. I am SO THANKFUL for the few members that gave me the Info I needed.

That is my reason for being here... to find out WHO to contact, HOW to contact them... so that I can get that part taken care of.

Thank you Johnny

God Bless

Robby

[TomT2566 1]

FROG,

I understand the situation pefectly now: your ex was a vicious hell-spawn demon, you are a Godly man who did nothing whatever to provoke her and anyone who questions your version of history is an immature, perverted, insecure, baggage-laden, guilt-riden, trashy low-life.

Thanks for clearing up the confusion.

[FROG 0]

Good luck Robby. Hope everything works out for you.

Thank you so much. Mountain Climber...

I need the encouragement. I feel like I am climbing the Mountain

Wish more were uplifting as you...Thanks again

God Bless

Robby

[Hopeful786 0]

FROG is here to ask advice on

[Hopeful786 0]

what he should include... so here it goes

FROG include as much information as you can as to why your relationship didn't work out with your former fiance, as you have plenty. Make sure you include that you did know your current fiance even before you met your former fiance.

what you shouldn't rush into is sending the petition right away. Take PLENTY of time into reviewing whether everything is complete, and think like a USCIS adjudicator and CO. Make sure to point out the smallest gaps... what I can think of on the top of my head right now is have you met within the 2 years and describe that relationship at that time (friendship type) and now it elevated to something mature and serious. Write up an affidavit describing the relationship with your current fiance at different time periods. In other words, just let it all out and be truthful..and nothing will go wrong ok?

And from what I'm familiar with, most embassies are different, some are strict and some are not. Just remember, once it reaches the US embassy, you are not the applicant, your fiancee is... so you will not be questioned here, your fiancee will. And of course a question will be asked of your fiancee during the interview regarding your past, just so the CO knows your fiancee is well aware of your former relationship

I hope my response helped out.

and sorry for twp replies, I clicked submit by accident and my response wasn't complete. By the time I completed the quick edit, it was too late (I guess they have those quick edits timed)

[seeker2k 0]

hi

no offense but i doubt these are bonafide relationships, as posters above stated. how do you think your process will go when all this comes out at USCIS or consulate ? you may be setting yourself up for a 3rd K1 couple years down the road.

i have a Chinese fiance, i have been to China several times and have had a long distance relationship when not there for about 2 years. lately i am having trouble because i got hit by the economy, my overtime got cut, i make much less money then i used to and i havent been able to return to China since october last year so it is taking a toll on our relationship and really we are going through the test of time.

i have met my fiances family, except her father and brother because they live in part of the country that i have not been to yet, but i know all her bad sides, mood swings etc. it is very important you do not choose to marry a person that you can not live with, and to see if that is or is not the case you need time.

as posters above said, give it time, take it easy, go for some local dating for at least 6 months or a year, or just concentrate on yourself, start working out, get your finances in order etc. then date internationally again, but this time, really date.

[Hopeful786 0]

hi

no offense but i doubt these are bonafide relationships, as posters above stated. how do you think your process will go when all this comes out at USCIS or consulate ? you may be setting yourself up for a 3rd K1 couple years down the road.

i have a Chinese fiance, i have been to China several times and have had a long distance relationship when not there for about 2 years. lately i am having trouble because i got hit by the economy, my overtime got cut, i make much less money then i used to and i havent been able to return to China since october last year so it is taking a toll on our relationship and really we are going through the test of time.

i have met my fiances family, except her father and brother because they live in part of the country that i have not been to yet, but i know all her bad sides, mood swings etc. it is very important you do not choose to marry a person that you can not live with, and to see if that is or is not the case you need time.

as posters above said, give it time, take it easy, go for some local dating for at least 6 months or a year, or just concentrate on yourself, start working out, get your finances in order etc. then date internationally again, but this time, really date.

I would advise the samething... but from my understanding FROG knows this person for quiet a while, he hasn't met her right after.

However, FROG if that is the case that you just met her, give it a few months and then go with your intuition that is based on some grounds.

[FROG 0]

what he should include... so here it goes

FROG include as much information as you can as to why your relationship didn't work out with your former fiance, as you have plenty. Make sure you include that you did know your current fiance even before you met your former fiance.

what you shouldn't rush into is sending the petition right away. Take PLENTY of time into reviewing whether everything is complete, and think like a USCIS adjudicator and CO. Make sure to point out the smallest gaps... what I can think of on the top of my head right now is have you met within the 2 years and describe that relationship at that time (friendship type) and now it elevated to something mature and serious. Write up an affidavit describing the relationship with your current fiance at different time periods. In other words, just let it all out and be truthful..and nothing will go wrong ok?

And from what I'm familiar with, most embassies are different, some are strict and some are not. Just remember, once it reaches the US embassy, you are not the applicant, your fiancee is... so you will not be questioned here, your fiancee will. And of course a question will be asked of your fiancee during the interview regarding your past, just so the CO knows your fiancee is well aware of your former relationship

I hope my response helped out.

and sorry for twp replies, I clicked submit by accident and my response wasn't complete. By the time I completed the quick edit, it was too late (I guess they have those quick edits timed)

Thank you Hopeful... first for taking the time to read enough to understand what I'm asking for and second for sticking to the request, and third for not reading too deep into my mind.

I am wanting to do what you have mentioned, and I am trying to determine is if I should just submit the affidavit/police report/photos/ etc. right now and try to clear up that filing and answer any possible questions that surface... I still need to get the other items together mentioned by

Baron and Old Dominion and Anh map

You will need to file the waiver letter. Nothing else except what you already did with the first petition.

Phils Regional Forum http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showforum=129

You simply need to write a letter (not notarized) requesting a waiver under IMBRA and giving some proof of what happened to #1. The USCIS will not blink at approving your petition, if the waiver request accompanies it, and unless you can't give evidence that you two have met within the last two years. THEN it will be up to USEM to ask all the tough questions about your romance, i.e., if it is bona fide, etc. That's where it will be a bit sticky, perhaps.

I think this is all you need to know. As to your choice of partner, think about the lesson you should have learned and then act.

You submit a request for a waiver under the IMBRA as a simple 2-paragraph letter to USCIS, with whatever proof you offer stapled to it, accompanying your petition. It's just part of the I-129f package, and won't slow down the processing. Don't ask why....it's their regulation based on the fact that ordinarily, one can submit no more than one petition in a two-year period. You are asking them to waive that 2-year guideline.

Try the Guides tab at the top of the pages as well. There is a lot of useful information. Also, the Waivers forum.

You dealt with IMBRA on your previous K1 petition (we all did).

I think it is best to clear this up before I submit the 2nd K-1 verses submitting it later "with" the 2nd K-1 so that it may help in healing during the span of time that elapses. Even though we have meet before and have a solid foundation, we do have ground to make up before filing and it will be easier if I put this to rest ASAP. I know they will discuss this with her at her interview when that time arrives.

Thank you to those of you who seriously are trying to give good advice/help

God Bless you ALL

Robby

[FROG 0]

hi

no offense but i doubt these are bonafide relationships, as posters above stated. how do you think your process will go when all this comes out at USCIS or consulate ? you may be setting yourself up for a 3rd K1 couple years down the road.

i have a Chinese fiance, i have been to China several times and have had a long distance relationship when not there for about 2 years. lately i am having trouble because i got hit by the economy, my overtime got cut, i make much less money then i used to and i havent been able to return to China since october last year so it is taking a toll on our relationship and really we are going through the test of time.

i have met my fiances family, except her father and brother because they live in part of the country that i have not been to yet, but i know all her bad sides, mood swings etc. it is very important you do not choose to marry a person that you can not live with, and to see if that is or is not the case you need time.

as posters above said, give it time, take it easy, go for some local dating for at least 6 months or a year, or just concentrate on yourself, start working out, get your finances in order etc. then date internationally again, but this time, really date.

Thanks Seeker. I will pray for your financial and job situation and that you will succeed with your "toll on your relationship... test of time" I know it is though. You can make it. Continue to Trust in the LORD...

God Bless

Robby