how to provide chat logs or email?

[jean&chard 0]

Hello Vjers!

We're planning to send K1 visa. So as early as now, we are preparing and gathering every thing just to be ready.

Just want to ask if how to present chat logs? I have a different alias name on my YM id. is that will be a problem? should I print the whole conversation or what should I do?

Same question on our e-mail messages. How and what do I need to print out?

I don't really have any evidence for phone calls. Because my fiance (beneficiary) has a magic jack ( this is like a usb that He can plug in to his computer and can make a free call here in US). How can I present proof for that?

Thanks for your help!

[zariagirl 0]

Hello Vjers!

We're planning to send K1 visa. So as early as now, we are preparing and gathering every thing just to be ready.

Just want to ask if how to present chat logs? I have a different alias name on my YM id. is that will be a problem? should I print the whole conversation or what should I do?

Same question on our e-mail messages. How and what do I need to print out?

I don't really have any evidence for phone calls. Because my fiance (beneficiary) has a magic jack ( this is like a usb that He can plug in to his computer and can make a free call here in US). How can I present proof for that?

Thanks for your help!

You do not need to send chat logs, email messages or phone call evidence when sending the initial K1 application. You would need them for the actual interview later on, but you don't need to stress over that now (I did not send any and my petition was approved).

Edited August 4, 2009 by zariagirl

[picasso_760 0]

We use YM, and our chat logs are archived. You can go to the chat archive and export each individual day. It exports it as a TXT file. I had two seperate folders for my individual IDs. At the end... I actually burned a CD. It contained chat archives, photos, monthly phone statements, scanned letters, tax docs, text message history... and an array of other things. Hopefully that helps.

[jean&chard 0]

We use YM, and our chat logs are archived. You can go to the chat archive and export each individual day. It exports it as a TXT file. I had two seperate folders for my individual IDs. At the end... I actually burned a CD. It contained chat archives, photos, monthly phone statements, scanned letters, tax docs, text message history... and an array of other things. Hopefully that helps.

thanks for your reply..

GoodLuck to all of us!

[amykathleen2005 441]

Hello Vjers!

We're planning to send K1 visa. So as early as now, we are preparing and gathering every thing just to be ready.

Just want to ask if how to present chat logs? I have a different alias name on my YM id. is that will be a problem? should I print the whole conversation or what should I do?

Same question on our e-mail messages. How and what do I need to print out?

I don't really have any evidence for phone calls. Because my fiance (beneficiary) has a magic jack ( this is like a usb that He can plug in to his computer and can make a free call here in US). How can I present proof for that?

Thanks for your help!

You do not need to send chat logs, email messages or phone call evidence when sending the initial K1 application. You would need them for the actual interview later on, but you don't need to stress over that now (I did not send any and my petition was approved).

I have heard of SOME people who the adjudicator wanted more proof of a relationship. I think it just depends on who you get and how picky they are. If you want to be safe you could send a small selection over a time period and save the rest for the interview.

[jean&chard 0]

Hello Vjers!

We're planning to send K1 visa. So as early as now, we are preparing and gathering every thing just to be ready.

Just want to ask if how to present chat logs? I have a different alias name on my YM id. is that will be a problem? should I print the whole conversation or what should I do?

Same question on our e-mail messages. How and what do I need to print out?

I don't really have any evidence for phone calls. Because my fiance (beneficiary) has a magic jack ( this is like a usb that He can plug in to his computer and can make a free call here in US). How can I present proof for that?

Thanks for your help!

You do not need to send chat logs, email messages or phone call evidence when sending the initial K1 application. You would need them for the actual interview later on, but you don't need to stress over that now (I did not send any and my petition was approved).

really? i thought I need to send SOME of evidence of the ongoing relationship (but not all) then after that you can bring all that you have during the interview.

Can anyone send me a link that will help me to know how to file everything like photos, tickets, what should I need to send. etc.

anything that will help us in our journey.. thank you

[Leo&Farah 0]

Primarily for the initial filing of I-129F, they focus more on evidence of having met in person within a 2 year frame time: boarding passes, hotel receipts, bus/train tickets, ATM withdrawals, passport stamps, ticket stubs, ticket receipts, pictures of the two of you together.

Some choose to front load their petition with some evidence of relationship incase of the off chance that you will be denied a chance to present evidence at the actual interview (some instances where the CO asks for more proof of relationship but refuses to accept any when you try to give it to them). In this case, it is argued that they cannot ignore evidence in the actual petition and for that reason, some choose to front load at high fraud or hard embassies.

I would not suggest a cd sent with the petition or brought at the actual interview: the rumors I heard is they cannot access media like that. There was a case where a woman brought a cd to the interview as well and was sent back with request for more proof in paper form since they did not accept the cd.

As for your initial question, pick a short excerpt per month to send if you feel anxious about front loading. If you're anything like us, our chat logs will be pages in a short span of hours, that's why I say print an excerpt only; just to give them a feel of how you both communicate. Try not to edit it out unless you have some personal information, just blot it out with a black marker. The key is to keep it as original as possible with some leeway for privacy.

I personally sent one conversation chat log per medium we use (which was three). Also, if you use webcam, take some screenshots. If you wanna print out some emails to send, screenshot it from your inbox if possible to show it is not forged.

For identification of user names in emails and chats just put something like:

Username1: Petitioner's name

Username2: Beneficiary's name

Email1: Petitioner's name

Email2: Beneficiary's name

If you don't manage to get a record of phone bills from magic jack, I strongly suggest trying to use something else to build a paper trail in time for the interview. Some people have been asked for 6 months worth. Just to be safe. We use skype unlimited country plan and have access to that, his phone records from his mobile in US and my phone records from my mobile here. So three different type of phone records.

I can't send you a link but we filed it this way:

First page: Cover: ORIGINAL SUBMISSION, I-129F FIANCE PETITION PACKAGE for (Beneficiary Name), Date, Prepared by (Petitioner's Name)

Second page: Cover letter

Third page: Table of contents

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Table of Contents

1.$455 Payment to U.S. Department of Homeland Security

2.Form I-129F: Petition for Alien Fiancée

3.Attachment to Form I-129F: Part B, Question 18

4.Description of the Fiancé(e) Relationship and Relationship Timeline

5.Form G-325A by US Citizen with Supporting Documents

5.1 Form G-325A – (Petitioners name)

5.2 One Passport-type Photo – (Petitioners name)

5.3 Documentation of US Citizenship – (Petitioners name)

5.3.1 Birth Certificate, (place), (state), USA – (Petitioners name)

5.3.2 Copy of US Passport – (Petitioners name)

6.Form G-325A by Foreign Fiancée with Supporting Documents

6.1 Form G-325A – (Beneficiary's name)

6.2 One Passport-type Photo – (Beneficiary's name)

6.3 Documentation of Foreign Citizenship – (Beneficiary's name)

6.3.1 Copy of Malaysia Birth Certificate – (Beneficiary's name)

6.3.2 Copy of Malaysia Passport, photo page – (Beneficiary's name)

7.Letters of Intent to Marry from both US Citizen and Foreign Fiancée

8.Proof of US Citizen and Foreign Fiancée Meeting Within the Past Two Years

8.1 Flight Itinerary – (Airline Name)

8.2 Flight Receipt – (Airline Name)

8.3 US Passport Visa Date Stamps

8.4 Boarding Passes – (Airline Name)

8.5 Paid Hotel Bill, (Hotel name, state, country)

8.6 Paid Hotel Bill, (Hotel name, state, country)

8.7 Paid Hotel Bill, (Hotel name, state, country)

8.8 Other Receipts

8.9 Photos of (Petitioner's name and Beneficiary's name) in (state, country)

9.Proof of the Ongoing Fiancé(e) Relationship

9.1 Stubs of Packages sent from (country name) to (country name)

9.2 Windows Live Messenger (MSN) – Chat Windows with Webcam Snapshots

9.3 IM Client 2 - Webcam Snapshots

9.4 Long Distance Telephone Records

9.5 Emails

9.6 Chat Logs

And just slotted everything in behind each corresponding paper. Punch two holes at the top of the package and bind it with ACCO fasteners. Don't use folders or whatever as they will take it apart and put things in their own folder system later and don't make it too hard for them to take it apart as it might piss them off.

Photos were put in a clear plastic bag with names written behind them and paper clipped to a blank sheet of paper. Some people put tabs at the bottom of the pages to make it easier for them to sort through but we didn't.

We sent 6 screenshots of webcam sessions, 6 months from 2008 and 2007 of skype telephone records, some US phone records showing my local skype number, 6 emails printed from inbox, 3 chat logs over 3 different mediums and 20 photos in the initial petition just incase. I learned not to take things for granted and hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Chats and emails don't all have to be lovey dovey. They want to see how you converse with each other and it's not realistic to be lovey dovey 24/7. Anything that couldn't fit in the forms, we attached an extra sheet to them with full details. The boarding passes and passport stamps were scanned. The rest of the evidence was photo copied. All signatures must be original.

We were fortunate to have a member of visajourney help us and mail us a example petition so we knew the format. I can't mention their names here to respect their privacy but we were lucky. So passing on the good karma.

[Leo&Farah 0]

PS: Fill in your country in your profile so VJ members can give you more specific examples of what to expect from your local embassy as all embassies are different and have varying standards.

[scotty's girl 1]

Read the guides.

We only sent a few chat logs. The rest were the evidences of meeting in person, like airline tickets, pics, etc.

Good luck on your journey

[DaleandPat 0]

Hello Vjers!

We're planning to send K1 visa. So as early as now, we are preparing and gathering every thing just to be ready.

Just want to ask if how to present chat logs? I have a different alias name on my YM id. is that will be a problem? should I print the whole conversation or what should I do?

Same question on our e-mail messages. How and what do I need to print out?

I don't really have any evidence for phone calls. Because my fiance (beneficiary) has a magic jack ( this is like a usb that He can plug in to his computer and can make a free call here in US). How can I present proof for that?

Thanks for your help!

As evidence of an ongoing relationship I used screen shots of the log of my Yahoo IMs with Pat. I also set Yahoo IM to archive the messages. Then I also make screen shots of some messages; two or three messages per month just for examples. I choose the screen shots verses the text version because the screen shots shows what the exact messages looked like. I was afraid the straight text messages may not have been as believable. I didn't get an RFE so it must have been fine. Now I am going to take another log and examples to send to Pat for her interview to show a continual ongoing relationship.

[H&J 0]

I don't really have any evidence for phone calls. Because my fiance (beneficiary) has a magic jack ( this is like a usb that He can plug in to his computer and can make a free call here in US). How can I present proof for that?

Thanks for your help!

i also have a magicjack ..and i chose to make screen shoots to prove that i talk to him using this device..and i guess that in his phonebills shows the magicjack phone number

good luck