US Citizen Married in US and PI now divorced

[kyoung 0]

Hi I got married in Reno Nevada in August of 2000. We went to manila in Feb of 2008 and got married in church. We are both US citizen and used our previous marriage license from the US. in May of 2008 our marriage fell apart. we got our divorce decree in feb of 2009. So my question is. What do I need to do now since I'm divorce here in the US. I was reading the a website and it said for a US citizen we need to go to US embassy to get a form before we can get married in manila is that true? We didnt get that form. We got married end of feb and in july I asked NSO for marriage certificate but recieved a CENOMAR. Is it because its not in the system yet? was it too early to request for one?

[taiko 0]

The Philippines ceremony does not count except for Catholic and othe religions ceremonial reasons. You were married in the US and went through a covalidation ceremony in the Catholic Church. You were issued a CENOMAR because you are a US citizen and presumbly as a Philippines citizen did not report the marriage to your former nation of citizenship.

You are free to marry. The Philippines can not refuse to honor your divorce because you arew a US citizen. The Church on the other hand will consider you still married in need of an annulment since you validated the marriage through them. The Church will refuse to remarry you on their grounds and refuse you communion and other sacraments should you remarry before receiving a nullity.

[kyoung 0]

The Philippines ceremony does not count except for Catholic and othe religions ceremonial reasons. You were married in the US and went through a covalidation ceremony in the Catholic Church. You were issued a CENOMAR because you are a US citizen and presumbly as a Philippines citizen did not report the marriage to your former nation of citizenship.

You are free to marry. The Philippines can not refuse to honor your divorce because you arew a US citizen. The Church on the other hand will consider you still married in need of an annulment since you validated the marriage through them. The Church will refuse to remarry you on their grounds and refuse you communion and other sacraments should you remarry before receiving a nullity.

HI I was married in a catholic church. I just converted to iglesia and plan to get marrie din iglesia churh. should I stil file for annulment?

[taiko 0]

You will have to ask an INC elder

[kyoung 0]

You will have to ask an INC elder

OK they said I wil be able to get married in INC. now my problem is if I'm married in PI I cant get married. Meaning if I have marriage license from NSO then I cant get married. So I got married end of Feb and I requested for a marriage license with the NSO in Mid july of same year. 1 Week later, NSO issued me a CENOMAR. So was I sissued a CENOMAR because it wasnt recorded yet or is it because we didnt follow the right protocol?

[taiko 0]

You will have to ask an INC elder

OK they said I wil be able to get married in INC. now my problem is if I'm married in PI I cant get married. Meaning if I have marriage license from NSO then I cant get married. So I got married end of Feb and I requested for a marriage license with the NSO in Mid july of same year. 1 Week later, NSO issued me a CENOMAR. So was I sissued a CENOMAR because it wasnt recorded yet or is it because we didnt follow the right protocol?

The "marriage" and "weddings" you are talking about are purely religious affairs, they do not matter to the state. To the state you are just throwing a party with a stage show for your guest before the reception. Once was the license is initially executed by the solmonizing agent be he a mayor, pastor, ship's captain, etc they don't care how many more times you have that party again. It is the church, not the state which may ask you to validate, renew vows, marry on hallowed ground etc that doesn't count the civil service as being a full sacrament.